I dont know if the fact that noone has managed to rock Khabib hard in any fight is a good thing for him and he s just superior to everyone in the game, or McGregor will catch him in while he s coming in and destroy him
I'm fairly certain Conor will manage to land nasty shots, question is how tough is Khabib's chin and will it last enough to get to ground and pound and smash
Conor has probably been lowkey training for this fight for two years now. All those instagram photos of him partying nonstop is probably just a ruse to make people underestimate him more than they already have. I think both guys will be surprised come fight night, with khabib feeling conor stuffing his shots more and conor realizing khabib's chin isn't as bad as he thought it was.
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PuertoRican United States. Sep 24 2018 05:02. Posts 13042
Name: Jalin Turner Age: 23 Height: 6'3 Reach: 75.5" (192cm) Weight Class: Lightweight (fight vs. Vicente Luque is at Welterweight) Style: Striker with a purple belt in BJJ Record: 7-3 (6 KO/TKO wins, 1 submission win; 2 losses by KO/TKO, 1 by decision) Team: Carlson Gracie for BJJ, and floats around other camps in Southern California for MMA Hometown: Inland Empire (Southern California)
Big_Rob_isback United States. Sep 24 2018 10:37. Posts 211
For Khabib vs Mcgregor, my thought is pretty simple. If Khabib has a Nate Diaz level chin, he will be able to eat a few shots. He will inevitably close the distance and then just ragdoll Conor. It could get really embarrassing. Thats "IF" Khabib has a rock solid chin like Nate.
The other thing that fascinates me is reach. Conor's ridiculous 74 inch reach is what makes him able to fight the way he fights. The reason why Nate was such a matchup nightmare was because Nate has a fucking 77 inch reach! Plus he has great cardio, and a good chin. I really get frustrated when people say Conor isn't that good because he lost to Nate. Styles and matchups make fights. Also Conor fought like an idiot in the 1st match lol.
Anyway, I am inclined to believe Khabib has a good chin. I see him weathering a decent 1st round by Conor. Then Conor loses pop on his striking and Khabib will take over. Khabib only has a 70 inch reach, so you would think Conor would be able to dictate the distance as he does in most fights, but Chad Mendes and his 69 inch was able to close the distance and get take downs. But what do I know PS. I hope Conor wins because his fighting style is the most exciting to me
- Mcgregor (good odds)
- Evinger (Aspen Ladd is overrated)
- Sean O Malley ("El Teco" is really bad)
- Tony Ferguson
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traxamillion United States. Sep 26 2018 22:26. Posts 10468
On September 24 2018 01:59 whammbot wrote:
Conor has probably been lowkey training for this fight for two years now. All those instagram photos of him partying nonstop is probably just a ruse to make people underestimate him more than they already have. I think both guys will be surprised come fight night, with khabib feeling conor stuffing his shots more and conor realizing khabib's chin isn't as bad as he thought it was.
No. Connor drinks and does a ton of blow. He is Irish white trash and loves to party. He still works out and can get into great fighting condition though; they aren't mutually exclusive.
Anyways, I'm all in on Khabib at -140. Just seems like the value is too good. In the last 5 years McG's only GREAT win is Aldo. Nate is a tough matchup but he struggled there and Alvarez is a can. This should be his toughest fight; basically a non manlet Mendes who won't instantly gas in the 2nd.
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traxamillion United States. Sep 27 2018 17:50. Posts 10468
All that said I do think Connor has a good chance of straight up starching him in the first or maybe 2nd
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soberstone United States. Sep 27 2018 22:12. Posts 2662
Sup Cam. Rooting for McG w/ da early KO - odds on Khabib are pretty juicy though, he should prolly be a bigger fav. That said, McG early KO is very possible - hes a fast starter and the moment is never too big for him, on the other hand Khabib always looks rusty and sloppy early - he could very well panic, rush in with his hands down, leave himself open, and get slept.
Thing is .... Khabib will be basically a welterweight when he fights, as he usually is, while Conor will be a lightweight. Conor was huge for featherweight, Khabib is huge for lightweight. People are legit afraid of him once they get inside the cage and realize what is going on, plus the massive size probably makes it much harder for him to get KOd, in theory, he should be the toughest KO in McGregor's career so far and he only managed to KO Aldo quickly, because of Aldo's mistake.
Then again Khabib kind of overextends with his legs a lot, which will be instantly punished by Conor, especially considering his reach advantage. Khabib likes to extend his legs, force opponent to hit him, then go in for the TD when they overextend, except Conor seems like he s too good to overextend. It's gonna be the speed and precision of Conor against the patience of Khabib, if Khabib's patience holds he ll eventually crush his soul on the ground
this has to be one of the most biased videos ive seen lol
Khabib is just trying to restrain himself from not hitting McGregor in the face right there and not ruin the fight. He s probably gonna get at least 7 figures so
this has to be one of the most biased videos ive seen lol
Khabib is just trying to restrain himself from not hitting McGregor in the face right there and not ruin the fight. He s probably gonna get at least 7 figures so
or he's trying to namajunas himself to victory. ain't happenning. kebab is mentally weak. he'll either lose or drop out. i think he'll drop out.
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PuertoRican United States. Sep 29 2018 21:45. Posts 13042
this has to be one of the most biased videos ive seen lol
Khabib is just trying to restrain himself from not hitting McGregor in the face right there and not ruin the fight. He s probably gonna get at least 7 figures so
Khabib wouldn't touch Conor with a strike in a face-off. He'd get countered easily.
There's a big difference in speed, power, and precision in the striking department. Khabib knows he needs to get the fight down to the ground right away. I assume he'll circle Conor a little bit and throw one of his slow overhand punches and use it as a way to shoot for a take down, which is an old strategy wrestlers used to use.
Theoretically, Khabib should let Conor engage considering the fight styles they have. I would really be worried if im engaging vs McGregor, he has such a good perception of what his range is combined with the left hand, every time Khabib goes in he s putting the match on the line basically
Khabib is higher than McGregor though, which isn't usually the case. McGregor seemed much bigger and taller than any of his previous opponents, except Diaz.
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PuertoRican United States. Sep 30 2018 04:39. Posts 13042
On September 30 2018 00:04 Spitfiree wrote:
Theoretically, Khabib should let Conor engage considering the fight styles they have. I would really be worried if im engaging vs McGregor, he has such a good perception of what his range is combined with the left hand, every time Khabib goes in he s putting the match on the line basically
Khabib is higher than McGregor though, which isn't usually the case. McGregor seemed much bigger and taller than any of his previous opponents, except Diaz.
Conor won't engage and be the aggressor against Khabib, unless he has Khabib hurt.
Conor is known for being a counter striker. He makes his opponents react and/or make a mistake, and then he counters them. If he sees them hurt, he will speed up his shots but still take his time so every shot lands and keep his distance, instead of brawling.
If you think about the majority of Conor's UFC wins, they are via counters:
• Marcus Brimage (counter combo)
• Max Holloway (decision)
• Diego Brandao (counter, plus Diego only throws 1 big punch at a time)
• Dustin Poirier (I don't remember if this was a counter)
• Dennis Siver (Siver was tired and Conor had him against the cage)
• Chad Mendes (Mendes was tired and Conor had him against the cage)
• Jose Aldo (counter left, one punch)
• Nate Diaz (Conor lost via gassing himself out from throwing 100% power shots for 1.5 rounds)
• Nate Diaz (decision)
• Eddie Alvarez (counter into a sweet 3 or 4 punch combo into a knockdown)
It's what im saying, that's where he has success at, so if I'm Khabib I'll force him into engaging. I'm guessing Conor instantly rushes to gain the middle position in the octagon so he can force him on the external side and force Khabib into being the engager.
P.S. just saw it vs Poirier and he actually just landed 2 left hands as original agressor, the 2nd one put him on the ground, but he forced him to run around the external side of the octagon after few good counters which set this up
Khabib completely destroys McGregor
and Pettis completely destroys Ferguson....
so then we should theoretically have McGregor basically be out of the lightweight belt bout and he d either have to finish his trio with Diaz, fight for featherweight belt or fight Ferguson for title shot
also if Khabib wins there is a good chance he will retire undefeated, unless GSP fights him for a super fight
just watched a vid w rogan and schaub - schaub says he learned from khabibs coach that khabibs intention is to retire after conor win OR superfight gsp
also conor brought in dagestan wrestlers to train with him
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PuertoRican United States. Oct 03 2018 01:36. Posts 13042
On October 02 2018 20:23 Spitfiree wrote:
what would be funny to happen is:
Khabib completely destroys McGregor
and Pettis completely destroys Ferguson....
so then we should theoretically have McGregor basically be out of the lightweight belt bout and he d either have to finish his trio with Diaz, fight for featherweight belt or fight Ferguson for title shot
also if Khabib wins there is a good chance he will retire undefeated, unless GSP fights him for a super fight
funny, but that would suck big time. i hope mcgregor wins and ferguson wins. as fans that's the best outcome for future match ups.
McGregor vs Ferguson would be such an epic fight, actually I think its a harder match than Khabib, Ferguson is quite similar to Nate but better in almost all aspects
If Khabib's chin is as durable as Tony's or Nate's, Conor's in for a heck of a fight. I hope his cardio extends past the six minute mark this time ffs. Every fuckin fight starts to fade at six minutes for Conor, starts to open his mouth and becomes increasingly sluggish.
His cardio was quite good in the Mayweather fight though. And his cardio hasn't really been tested at 155, it seems to be covered. Then again the later the fight goes, the higher the chances Khabib is lying on him all the time, which means further exhaustion
On October 03 2018 04:05 Baalim wrote:
McGregor vs Ferguson would be such an epic fight, actually I think its a harder match than Khabib, Ferguson is quite similar to Nate but better in almost all aspects
exactly what i was saying for more than 2 years now .
Unfortunately Fuerguson gets old now... but he is / was a real monster and underestimated by so many ....
Guy is basically Nate Diaz 2.0.
He can do everything Nate does in a much more dangerous way.
I believe Tony is the hardest Matchup for Conor MC Gregor.
Khabib the second hardest since he is basically similar to a better Version of Chad Mendes.
Chad did outwrestle Conor big time but then gassed and basically became a punching bag who was to tired to even move anymore
U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)
in the first Nate fight Conor had staph infection and was on antibiotics 2 weeks before the fight, obv he was gonna have problems with his endurance, besides he threw like 165 strikes or something like that in less than 8 minutes, 2nd Nate fight he did got tired but recovered nicely after 1 round.
On October 03 2018 04:05 Baalim wrote:
McGregor vs Ferguson would be such an epic fight, actually I think its a harder match than Khabib, Ferguson is quite similar to Nate but better in almost all aspects
exactly what i was saying for more than 2 years now .
Unfortunately Fuerguson gets old now... but he is / was a real monster and underestimated by so many ....
Guy is basically Nate Diaz 2.0.
He can do everything Nate does in a much more dangerous way.
I believe Tony is the hardest Matchup for Conor MC Gregor.
Khabib the second hardest since he is basically similar to a better Version of Chad Mendes.
Chad did outwrestle Conor big time but then gassed and basically became a punching bag who was to tired to even move anymore
tony ferguson is NOTHING like nate diaz. wtf you talking about?
traxamillion United States. Oct 04 2018 23:35. Posts 10468
On October 02 2018 04:45 lucky331 wrote:
would be sweet to see mcgregor submit khabib.
That would be hype. I would be laughing if mcgregor got him with an armbar or something. does Mcgregor have any sub wins? maybe a couple rear naked chokes?
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traxamillion United States. Oct 04 2018 23:39. Posts 10468
On October 02 2018 20:23 Spitfiree wrote:
what would be funny to happen is:
Khabib completely destroys McGregor
and Pettis completely destroys Ferguson....
so then we should theoretically have McGregor basically be out of the lightweight belt bout and he d either have to finish his trio with Diaz, fight for featherweight belt or fight Ferguson for title shot
also if Khabib wins there is a good chance he will retire undefeated, unless GSP fights him for a super fight
I'd like to see Conor and Nate both win their fights and fight for the lightweight belt. That would be ideal but I don't think Nate will beat Dustin unfortunately. I think it is much more likely that McGregor beats Khabib than Nate wins his fight.
After thinking about it I also think a bunch of money is going to come in on conor last minute; especially if the odds swing more towards favoring khabib
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traxamillion United States. Oct 04 2018 23:40. Posts 10468
On October 02 2018 20:23 Spitfiree wrote:
what would be funny to happen is:
Khabib completely destroys McGregor
and Pettis completely destroys Ferguson....
so then we should theoretically have McGregor basically be out of the lightweight belt bout and he d either have to finish his trio with Diaz, fight for featherweight belt or fight Ferguson for title shot
also if Khabib wins there is a good chance he will retire undefeated, unless GSP fights him for a super fight
how old is Khabib? It would be pretty lame if he wins and retires especially with the way he got the belt. He should at least fight 1 #1 LW contender otherwise people will always call him a paper champ even if he wins this weekend
it's hilarious that Nate is getting all this attention. Any top 10 fighter now with enough cardio can beat the living shite out of him. He is only a nightmare for Conor because he is tall, super-durable, relentless and throws nonstop. Nate gets hit a lot in fights and is a walking CTE model
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PuertoRican United States. Oct 05 2018 02:31. Posts 13042
On October 02 2018 04:45 lucky331 wrote:
would be sweet to see mcgregor submit khabib.
That would be hype. I would be laughing if mcgregor got him with an armbar or something. does Mcgregor have any sub wins? maybe a couple rear naked chokes?
omg omg a mcgregor armbar on khabib would he HILARIOUS!!! please god make some ridiculous shit like that happen. i promse to be good. lololol.
Khabib comes out first, looks very good healthwise, Conor is gonna have a baaaad time. Khabib s gonna be huge tomorrow
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iakim322 United States. Oct 05 2018 17:53. Posts 1335
On October 03 2018 04:05 Baalim wrote:
McGregor vs Ferguson would be such an epic fight, actually I think its a harder match than Khabib, Ferguson is quite similar to Nate but better in almost all aspects
The only thing I find similar in them is that they both have really really good cardio. Besides that, they fight quite differently
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iakim322 United States. Oct 05 2018 18:29. Posts 1335
Conor, Pettis, Reyes.
Re-watching several of Conor's fight motions gave me more of an appreciation of Conor's precision. So many of his shots land so perfectly low on the jaw.
Khabib's TD strength is in him pressuring people near to the cage and getting in on them near the cage where he's nearly unstoppable. His actual takedowns in space though aren't overly extraordinary.
People like to point to the fact that Khabib almost immediately walked down a dangerous striker in Barboza and Barboza couldn't do anything about it. Barboza's strengths are in his kicks. Countering a forward pressure grappler with a precision kick is a lot more difficult than a counter left. And Conor has the best single counter shot in the world. Khabib obv knows this and also won't be willing to put himself out there right away on this massive stage to possibly get counter KO'd in the first 10 sec like Aldo did.
I think Conor takes control of the center of the cage right away and Khabib has to play his game longer than people think. Then some version of what happened to Eddie where Khabib's standing in front of Conor too long without fully realizing it.
Alvarez: “What was unique about fighting him, something I maybe haven’t felt before, was he has this calmness that kind of hypnotizes you into feeling calm, and safe.
“So, rather than going in there and moving like I normally do, I feel his calmness made me feel like, “Oh, I’m not in danger. He feels fine, I feel safe.” He does this good job of hypnotizing you into this relaxed state, and then striking quickly.”
Healthy, 100% Ferguson probably batters Pettis. But I don't think anyone can really guarantee if that Ferguson shows up. His body's been through a lot. Pettis also looked rejuvenated and has too much natural talent for me not to want to bet him as a 3:1 dog. Could totally see a flash submission from the bottom against an overly confident Ferguson.
Reyes even at 2:1. OSP is going to fold under the pressure/power of Reyes
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soberstone United States. Oct 05 2018 19:45. Posts 2662
The more I think about the fight the more I agree with what Iakim just said. Khabib's TD's are a result of the clinch, which he usually initiate by getting opponents up against the fence and offbalance. In order to get the fight there, he's going to need to hold his own on the feet and create chaos and move Conor backward. I don't think hes a good enough to do that. I do think there is a chance Khabib actually lands something big.
I would guess after this camp that Conor's TDD is good enough to force Khabib to atleast work relatively hard for it - but that's speculation. He was hurt (torn ACL I believe) and not as seasoned in the Mendes fight, but some of the TD's Mendes landed were way to easy, and Khabib is obv a step-up in terms of size and strength. So if Khabib can get a hold of him at all, it's really anyones guess how much resistance Conor will be able to levy.
And ofcourse the X-Factor is the mentality and moment. There is no question that Conor has the edge here. If Khabib is as confident and ice-blooded as he claims and is portrayed to be maybe it's a wash, but I doubt it. And that shit really seems to matter more than any of the more tangible things you can weigh in fights like this.
I think if Khabib survives first two rounds he will win. Would be really bad if Khabib lets him take the center right away, but then again I dont think he can stop him in any way
Hope Pettis comes back in his previous shape, he s probably the fighter I enjoyed most watching, cause he can do random shit out of nowhere and end the fight. Guy survived 5 rounds against the most beast mode RDA has ever been in, so huge respect
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Actually I don't think you guys realize that Khabib has never been challenged, he has never lost a single round in the UFC. It doesnt fucking matter who he fought, its not like they were bad fighters. He got rocked by MJ for about 5seconds and then he completely demolished him again. Conor as good as he is , has never faced someone like Khabib. This fight is gonna be fucking insane imo.
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PuertoRican United States. Oct 06 2018 03:05. Posts 13042
Khabib Nurmagomedov (155) vs. Conor McGregor (154.5)
Tony Ferguson (155) vs. Anthony Pettis (156)
Ovince Saint Preux (205.5) vs. Dominick Reyes (204.5)
Derrick Lewis (265.5) vs. Alexander Volkov (251)
Michelle Waterson (115) vs. Felice Herrig (115.5)
Sergio Pettis (125) vs. Jussier Formiga (125.5)
Vicente Luque (170.5) vs. Jalin Turner (169.5)
Aspen Ladd (134.5) vs. Tonya Evinger (136)
Scott Holtzman (155.5) vs. Alan Patrick (155.5)
Lina Lansberg (135.5) vs. Yana Kunitskaya (134.5)
Gray Maynard (156) vs. Nik Lentz (156)
Ryan LaFlare (171) vs. Tony Martin (171)
The ONLY thing I'm concerned about is cardio. If he looks good past the 3rd round if ever it gets to that then I'm all-in on Conar. Remember this is a guy who's trained his hands for six months preparing for arguably the best boxer in the world. If anything his boxing has improved even more, so closing that gap without getting clipped is going to be really tough.
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Into Infinity United States. Oct 06 2018 10:48. Posts 1884
i firmly believe that this fight will not be competitive, whoever wins. that being said, i think khabib takes it.
also think ferguson is going to destroy pettis for free
Damn Tony is just mad relentless. I remember the Vannata fight where he was getting his ass kicked but just takes out the wind from opponents by just constantly throwing and attacking
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PuertoRican United States. Oct 07 2018 05:16. Posts 13042
Of course I need Pettis to win, and he has Ferguson nearly done, and then breaks his hand and can't continue.
On October 07 2018 05:09 PuertoRican wrote:
Zubaira Tukhugov is gonna get fired from the UFC for sure. He's the guy who jumped over the fence and hit Conor.
I imagine a number of other people are going to face criminal charges too. I think Khabib and Zubaira will for sure
On October 07 2018 05:13 Big_Rob_isback wrote:
Conor's striking looked like shit by his standards.
he was mindfucked once he got taken down in the 1st. khabib barely threw heat in the whole round but made sure conor knew and set him up for that overhand. i gotta hand it to him and his team, they really figured out how to fuck with his head and nullify conor's hands and even got a bonus KD out of it. About the post-fight, it's all good and Conor deserved it. Thinking about it now I respect Floyd for being super respectful after schooling him, I guess it's different in Dogestan. Conor's cardio is hopeless and he'll be open to all the hungry new comers from hereon out, it's clear his game goes to shit past round 2 to 3.
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PuertoRican United States. Oct 07 2018 06:15. Posts 13042
On October 07 2018 05:13 Big_Rob_isback wrote:
Conor's striking looked like shit by his standards.
He was tired by Round 2. After he got hit clean by a big punch from Khabib, Conor countered and was super slow. I was surprised he came back and won Round 3 before losing in R4.
As for Khabib, he fucked up big time. He won't fight in Las Vegas in 2019 for sure, which means he won't fight anywhere in the USA during that time, too.
On October 07 2018 05:09 PuertoRican wrote:
Zubaira Tukhugov is gonna get fired from the UFC for sure. He's the guy who jumped over the fence and hit Conor.
I imagine a number of other people are going to face criminal charges too. I think Khabib and Zubaira will for sure
I mean Khabib literally assaulted someone in front of cameras.... will be hard to get out of this.
I mean... i would understand that he doesn't want to shake hands and stuff, but he went way too far.
Oh and, i'm disapointed Conor lost.
On October 07 2018 05:13 Big_Rob_isback wrote:
Conor's striking looked like shit by his standards.
he was mindfucked once he got taken down in the 1st. khabib barely threw heat in the whole round but made sure conor knew and set him up for that overhand. i gotta hand it to him and his team, they really figured out how to fuck with his head and nullify conor's hands and even got a bonus KD out of it. About the post-fight, it's all good and Conor deserved it. Thinking about it now I respect Floyd for being super respectful after schooling him, I guess it's different in Dogestan
could also be ring rust.
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NMcNasty United States. Oct 07 2018 06:19. Posts 2039
Not sure exactly what happened after Khabib jumped out of the ring he might have gotten in Conor’s coach’s face without throwing the first punch, but his two other teammates straight jumped Conor. They seriously deserve jail time.
still lets see whats next for coner now after such a beating
r2 was pure domination. I was very impressed with the way he stood up because i thought he was about to quit
Btw on a positive note, i do believe Conor worked his ass off and improved his wrestling/BJJ a tons since the mendes fight. But beating a short notice mendes isn't the same thing as a prime full camp Khabib....
I think that's three people attacking Conor. The guy on the right comes in late. Fucked up.
You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo
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NMcNasty United States. Oct 07 2018 06:27. Posts 2039
On October 07 2018 05:21 Nazgul wrote:
Are we sure Khabib actually attacked someone after getting out of the cage?
I DVRed it and watched a few times and right after Khabib jumps out of the cage we’re off camera and don’t see the initial scuffle, just the breakup afterward. But again, two of Khabib’s teammates sucker punched Conor clean in the face which was as clear as day.
PuertoRican United States. Oct 07 2018 06:30. Posts 13042
On October 07 2018 05:19 NMcNasty wrote:
Not sure exactly what happened after Khabib jumped out of the ring he might have gotten in Conor’s coach’s face without throwing the first punch, but his two other teammates straight jumped Conor. They seriously deserve jail time.
1. Khabib and his teammates -- including Zubaira Tukhugov, who jumped the fence and hit Conor -- need to get a visa every time they want to fight in America.
2. Las Vegas will own Khabib hard for this. Don't expect to see him fight in Las Vegas/Nevada in 2019, which means the other 49 states won't allow him to fight while Las Vegas has Khabib on suspension.
3. The UFC will have their own plans for Khabib, which is separate from the commission's suspension.
4. Trump is a fan over Conor, and he isn't too fond of Muslims.
Rekrul is a newb
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PuertoRican United States. Oct 07 2018 06:35. Posts 13042
On October 07 2018 05:28 Nazgul wrote:
Alright well that answers my question:
Putin will definitely not be pleased with this development. They already had a great moral victory, beat the shit out of the villain and Conor looked real bad in all of this - no moral high ground teachings in the religion of peace? One dude even attacked from BEHIND Conor heh. That's totally different in a legal setting
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PuertoRican United States. Oct 07 2018 06:52. Posts 13042
On October 07 2018 05:38 Daut wrote:
WUG presser links
UFC under Shariah Law now says Kebab as he is champ
No talking about:
*Family
*Country
*Religion
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Into Infinity United States. Oct 07 2018 08:44. Posts 1884
On October 06 2018 09:48 Into Infinity wrote:
i firmly believe that this fight will not be competitive, whoever wins. that being said, i think khabib takes it.
also think ferguson is going to destroy pettis for free
khabib
ferguson
osp
black beast
waterson
4/5, OSP was never my friend
also, conor got sucker punched because he threw the first punch:
Conor almost seriously injured multiple people and didn't get a suspension. If Khabib gets a suspension over this will be a complete fuckin joke.
That being said, Conor deserved at least a few years ban plus loss of all sponsorship and so does Khabib now.
Khabib still has 0 rounds lost in the UFC. Conor got exposed, Mendes wouldve destroyed him after a good camp, Alvarez is just a joke compared to other wrestlers
Khabib is also a complete fucking idiot for starting the shit after the fight, what a fuckin joke.
Also yes Conor possibly started punching the other guy first, but that guy's place is not in the fucking octagon, nor is the 2nd guy that hit him twice from behind. GJ on Dana suspending them forever from the UFC, they can go suck some dick in Russia now, getting 1k$ a fight
On October 07 2018 11:30 Spitfiree wrote:
you guys are joking and ur bias is ....
Conor almost seriously injured multiple people and didn't get a suspension. If Khabib gets a suspension over this will be a complete fuckin joke.
That being said, Conor deserved at least a few years ban plus loss of all sponsorship and so does Khabib now.
Khabib still has 0 rounds lost in the UFC. Conor got exposed, Mendes wouldve destroyed him after a good camp, Alvarez is just a joke compared to other wrestlers
Khabib is also a complete fucking idiot for starting the shit after the fight, what a fuckin joke.
Also yes Conor possibly started punching the other guy first, but that guy's place is not in the fucking octagon, nor is the 2nd guy that hit him twice from behind. GJ on Dana suspending them forever from the UFC, they can go suck some dick in Russia now, getting 1k$ a fight
Conor was charged, went to trial and plead guilty and according to Dana it costed him millions, also what Conor did wasn't in the middle of a televised event, therefore the comission shouldn't hav as big of a say and its more of a criminal thing, the sponsors decide for themselves if they want or not to keep associating with the athlete.
What Khabib did was far worse, and actually is probably the most serious offence ever in the history of the UFC, fights broke out as a consecuence where people got injured and others arrested, in the press conference he didn't show any remorse in fact it seems like he seems keen on doing it again if anybody disrispects his family, country and religion.
Hopefully the comission gives him a 1 year suspension so Dana strips him of the belt and we can see a fight Conor vs Ferguson for the title and Khabib gets a direct shot after his suspension.
If they suspend him, he can just fight outside of the USA though, can't he?
I'm pretty sure that they haven't done a Moscow event with him because of the time difference with the USA, so the PPV would actually not be as high as anticipated.
What I'm wondering is if the PPV % is a part of Khabib's purse, or is the purse just the fixed amount he gets. If they take his purse, but he gets to keep the PPV %, then it's whatever for him moneywise.
Also no, the commission couldn't have done anything about Conor's behaviour, but the UFC could've and should've. Your biggest star is:
A) Attacking a Referee in an official Bellator event as a spectator
B) Attacking your organization's bus with 20 people and ended up injuring two of them while doing property damage
.... And they don't do shit? That's amazing
I'm not protecting Khabib, I'm just saying the UFC is super disgusting and hypocritical and should've sanctioned Conor then, and should sanction Khabib now. Especially because this is the fighting sport, there is absolutely no room for shit like this to happen. It's one thing to be measuring dick pre-event, quite another when there's 20,000 people watching you live, half of which have the IQ of a stone and are prone to violence. Dana's decision not to give Khabib's belt was probably his best decision in a live event ever. He prevented shitton of injuries of innocent people.
Khabib is completely fucked, not only because of what he did but also cause he s muslim. One year suspension would prob be the best thing he gets.
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That being said, Conor actually looked like shit in this fight. I don't know if its cause it was Khabib or he was rusty or had a bad weigh cut or whatever, but this was far from Conor's A game. I don't know about the mental warfare, but he was grabbing fences, hitting Khabib's head, trying to knee him on the ground and grabbing his gloves, all illegal shit, at any point possible, just to grab for little edges to relieve him from Khabib's pressure.
Also Boohoo - Conor got sued? You gotta be joking, did you actually think it matters? He lost millions? So what, he s a solid multi millionaire, don't think that those events caused any kind of change in his mentality.
The guy just had a kid and ran off to another country to assault a guy, who just cornered his teammate, cause his teammate was insulting Khabib on live television for no reason. They didn't even hit him, or do anyhting to him, Khabib just put his hand on his head and told him not to ever mention his name again. Obviously, Khabib is an idiot for thinking you can shut people up in the USA and get acknowledged for such beliefs, but still. The whole event shows how fucking full of himself Conor is
On October 07 2018 22:32 Spitfiree wrote:
If they suspend him, he can just fight outside of the USA though, can't he?
I'm pretty sure that they haven't done a Moscow event with him because of the time difference with the USA, so the PPV would actually not be as high as anticipated.
What I'm wondering is if the PPV % is a part of Khabib's purse, or is the purse just the fixed amount he gets. If they take his purse, but he gets to keep the PPV %, then it's whatever for him moneywise.
Also no, the commission couldn't have done anything about Conor's behaviour, but the UFC could've and should've. Your biggest star is:
A) Attacking a Referee in an official Bellator event as a spectator
B) Attacking your organization's bus with 20 people and ended up injuring two of them while doing property damage
.... And they don't do shit? That's amazing
I'm not protecting Khabib, I'm just saying the UFC is super disgusting and hypocritical and should've sanctioned Conor then, and should sanction Khabib now. Especially because this is the fighting sport, there is absolutely no room for shit like this to happen. It's one thing to be measuring dick pre-event, quite another when there's 20,000 people watching you live, half of which have the IQ of a stone and are prone to violence. Dana's decision not to give Khabib's belt was probably his best decision in a live event ever. He prevented shitton of injuries of innocent people.
Khabib is completely fucked, not only because of what he did but also cause he s muslim. One year suspension would prob be the best thing he gets.
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That being said, Conor actually looked like shit in this fight. I don't know if its cause it was Khabib or he was rusty or had a bad weigh cut or whatever, but this was far from Conor's A game. I don't know about the mental warfare, but he was grabbing fences, hitting Khabib's head, trying to knee him on the ground and grabbing his gloves, all illegal shit, at any point possible, just to grab for little edges to relieve him from Khabib's pressure.
Also Boohoo - Conor got sued? You gotta be joking, did you actually think it matters? He lost millions? So what, he s a solid multi millionaire, don't think that those events caused any kind of change in his mentality.
The guy just had a kid and ran off to another country to assault a guy, who just cornered his teammate, cause his teammate was insulting Khabib on live television for no reason. They didn't even hit him, or do anyhting to him, Khabib just put his hand on his head and told him not to ever mention his name again. Obviously, Khabib is an idiot for thinking you can shut people up in the USA and get acknowledged for such beliefs, but still. The whole event shows how fucking full of himself Conor is
Yes he can fight in Moscow so that gives Khabib a chance to perhaps defend his title there once, but that depends on the suspension, assuming its 1 year, perhaps Dana is fine with this, but also perhaps he thinks Conor vs Ferguson and winner vs the Khabib coming back would mean even more money.
If you think about it, lets say Conor beats Ferguson, a rematch between Conor, the real champ coming back with all the bad blood would be much bigger than any other scenario where Khabib isn't stripped.
Khabib gets PPV, Dana said so in the inteview, he also said those checks take a while to be written.
I agree 100% that the UFC should have done something with Conor, however Conor was in such a massive leveraged position I also understand why Dana decided to didn't do anything about it, and Conor is a multimillionare, but he certainly cares about losing millions and being arrested, but no obviously that wont change his shitty attitude, thats kind of change rarely happens.
If I support heavy penalties for Khabib it doesnt mean I support Conor antics, I think all sports not just MMA should dish out heavy penalties for anti-sportsmanship behavior, when they dont the sports becomes a circus, like football or Boxing.
BTW I agree that Conor looked really bad, I assume its the rich fighters curse, booze, hookers and blow.. afterall most fighters are uneducated and impulsive so they tend to lose focus quickly when they get rich
Conor is still very young and an outlier so this 2nd terrible L might be the spark he needs to wake up and be hungry again. All that money and activity outside of fighting is terrible for him when he's up against hungry lions.
Now I realize Mayweather is so much smarter than the guy, he is leagues above Conor in almost all aspects. Dude prints money but never compromises what gives him the money, he's figured out a way to remain hungry all these years.
tbh I dont want to see Khabib vs Conor 2, Conor has zero chance against Khabib, its not like he didnt land good shots on his chin, his chin is just good enough, unless Conor lands a massive power left hand, which is very doubtful
Conor vs Ferguson or Khabib vs Ferguson would be cool though. Depending on what happens to Khabib next is -> Conor vs Nate, Khabib vs Ferguson or Conor vs Ferguson for interim belt, if Khabib is suspended
This is the 4th out of his last 5 fights where conor takes a lot of punishment. He will pay a price for that punishment in the mid-long run now that he became 30. Aldo is still 'young' (32) but I feel he's already showing signs of age because of the damage his body has taken in his last fights
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jvilla777 Australia. Oct 09 2018 00:26. Posts 1348
What a performance by Khabib! The whole card delivered, from the prelims all the way to the melee and all the media and public after thought/discussions.
People that bet Conor pretty much was just a Hail Mary bet, and didn’t think logically. I’m big fan of Conor and is one of my favourite fighters but as a bettor I really had a hard time seeing him win this. I have to say tho, he has a very good way of convincing casuals that he will win during the build up.
Next should be Conor vs Gathje / Khabib vs Ferg / Lee vs winner of Diaz and Dustin.
longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality!
and don't agree it was a hail mary bet. a hail mary bet would be 10.00 odds where you know it's a hail mary. bookies had priced him at around 2.50 minutes before the fight.
So the Nevada commission decided to not shove the videos of McGregor attacking Khabib's teammates first under the rug, he s also facing a suspension. This is kind of good for Khabib, as they should be potentially facing exact same suspensions, as they did the exact same thing, except Khabib is the initiator
On October 09 2018 10:30 Spitfiree wrote:
So the Nevada commission decided to not shove the videos of McGregor attacking Khabib's teammates first under the rug, he s also facing a suspension. This is kind of good for Khabib, as they should be potentially facing exact same suspensions, as they did the exact same thing, except Khabib is the initiator
Do the videos show that? I didn't see any good angles. One I saw looks like Conor is throwing a punch at a teammate of Khabib who is yelling at him from behind a security guy, but from a different angle it looks like that guy was running at Conor and Conor swings while the security guard is starting to intervene. If it is indeed the latter you could argue strongly that it is in self defence.
Disclaimer Im bad but
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traxamillion United States. Oct 10 2018 01:59. Posts 10468
I don't really see what is so bad about what Khabib did. What some of his teamates did was bad but Khabib didn't do shit. Khabib was just on beastmode; won one fight and was ready to go some more vs the rest of connor's squad (who remember mobbed on him 40 deep and when he couldn't do shit because he needed this fight to happen to get paid). Khabib had to listen to so much shit talking and about how much of a pussy he is for staying on the bus etc. but really he just couldn't jeapordize payday. Once this fight was over it was fucking on and he wanted that faggot Dillon Danis's head.
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traxamillion United States. Oct 10 2018 02:01. Posts 10468
On October 07 2018 22:32 Spitfiree wrote:
If they suspend him, he can just fight outside of the USA though, can't he?
I'm pretty sure that they haven't done a Moscow event with him because of the time difference with the USA, so the PPV would actually not be as high as anticipated.
What I'm wondering is if the PPV % is a part of Khabib's purse, or is the purse just the fixed amount he gets. If they take his purse, but he gets to keep the PPV %, then it's whatever for him moneywise.
Also no, the commission couldn't have done anything about Conor's behaviour, but the UFC could've and should've. Your biggest star is:
A) Attacking a Referee in an official Bellator event as a spectator
B) Attacking your organization's bus with 20 people and ended up injuring two of them while doing property damage
.... And they don't do shit? That's amazing
I'm not protecting Khabib, I'm just saying the UFC is super disgusting and hypocritical and should've sanctioned Conor then, and should sanction Khabib now. Especially because this is the fighting sport, there is absolutely no room for shit like this to happen. It's one thing to be measuring dick pre-event, quite another when there's 20,000 people watching you live, half of which have the IQ of a stone and are prone to violence. Dana's decision not to give Khabib's belt was probably his best decision in a live event ever. He prevented shitton of injuries of innocent people.
Khabib is completely fucked, not only because of what he did but also cause he s muslim. One year suspension would prob be the best thing he gets.
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That being said, Conor actually looked like shit in this fight. I don't know if its cause it was Khabib or he was rusty or had a bad weigh cut or whatever, but this was far from Conor's A game. I don't know about the mental warfare, but he was grabbing fences, hitting Khabib's head, trying to knee him on the ground and grabbing his gloves, all illegal shit, at any point possible, just to grab for little edges to relieve him from Khabib's pressure.
Also Boohoo - Conor got sued? You gotta be joking, did you actually think it matters? He lost millions? So what, he s a solid multi millionaire, don't think that those events caused any kind of change in his mentality.
The guy just had a kid and ran off to another country to assault a guy, who just cornered his teammate, cause his teammate was insulting Khabib on live television for no reason. They didn't even hit him, or do anyhting to him, Khabib just put his hand on his head and told him not to ever mention his name again. Obviously, Khabib is an idiot for thinking you can shut people up in the USA and get acknowledged for such beliefs, but still. The whole event shows how fucking full of himself Conor is
Yes he can fight in Moscow so that gives Khabib a chance to perhaps defend his title there once, but that depends on the suspension, assuming its 1 year, perhaps Dana is fine with this, but also perhaps he thinks Conor vs Ferguson and winner vs the Khabib coming back would mean even more money.
If you think about it, lets say Conor beats Ferguson, a rematch between Conor, the real champ coming back with all the bad blood would be much bigger than any other scenario where Khabib isn't stripped.
Khabib gets PPV, Dana said so in the inteview, he also said those checks take a while to be written.
I agree 100% that the UFC should have done something with Conor, however Conor was in such a massive leveraged position I also understand why Dana decided to didn't do anything about it, and Conor is a multimillionare, but he certainly cares about losing millions and being arrested, but no obviously that wont change his shitty attitude, thats kind of change rarely happens.
If I support heavy penalties for Khabib it doesnt mean I support Conor antics, I think all sports not just MMA should dish out heavy penalties for anti-sportsmanship behavior, when they dont the sports becomes a circus, like football or Boxing.
mma is a fucking circus. this is ppv prize fighting. this shit is closer to WWE than a real sport. this shit sells tickets. embrace it.
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traxamillion United States. Oct 10 2018 02:03. Posts 10468
On October 08 2018 23:26 jvilla777 wrote:
What a performance by Khabib! The whole card delivered, from the prelims all the way to the melee and all the media and public after thought/discussions.
People that bet Conor pretty much was just a Hail Mary bet, and didn’t think logically. I’m big fan of Conor and is one of my favourite fighters but as a bettor I really had a hard time seeing him win this. I have to say tho, he has a very good way of convincing casuals that he will win during the build up.
Next should be Conor vs Gathje / Khabib vs Ferg / Lee vs winner of Diaz and Dustin.
On October 08 2018 23:26 jvilla777 wrote:
What a performance by Khabib! The whole card delivered, from the prelims all the way to the melee and all the media and public after thought/discussions.
People that bet Conor pretty much was just a Hail Mary bet, and didn’t think logically. I’m big fan of Conor and is one of my favourite fighters but as a bettor I really had a hard time seeing him win this. I have to say tho, he has a very good way of convincing casuals that he will win during the build up.
Next should be Conor vs Gathje / Khabib vs Ferg / Lee vs winner of Diaz and Dustin.
I second Connor vs Gaethje
It would be cool but Connor is never going to accept that fight. He will only agree to rematch Khabib, fight for a title or a superfight.
On October 10 2018 00:59 traxamillion wrote:
I don't really see what is so bad about what Khabib did. What some of his teamates did was bad but Khabib didn't do shit. Khabib was just on beastmode; won one fight and was ready to go some more vs the rest of connor's squad (who remember mobbed on him 40 deep and when he couldn't do shit because he needed this fight to happen to get paid). Khabib had to listen to so much shit talking and about how much of a pussy he is for staying on the bus etc. but really he just couldn't jeapordize payday. Once this fight was over it was fucking on and he wanted that faggot Dillon Danis's head.
On October 10 2018 00:59 traxamillion wrote:
I don't really see what is so bad about what Khabib did. What some of his teamates did was bad but Khabib didn't do shit. Khabib was just on beastmode; won one fight and was ready to go some more vs the rest of connor's squad (who remember mobbed on him 40 deep and when he couldn't do shit because he needed this fight to happen to get paid). Khabib had to listen to so much shit talking and about how much of a pussy he is for staying on the bus etc. but really he just couldn't jeapordize payday. Once this fight was over it was fucking on and he wanted that faggot Dillon Danis's head.
On October 08 2018 23:26 jvilla777 wrote:
What a performance by Khabib! The whole card delivered, from the prelims all the way to the melee and all the media and public after thought/discussions.
People that bet Conor pretty much was just a Hail Mary bet, and didn’t think logically. I’m big fan of Conor and is one of my favourite fighters but as a bettor I really had a hard time seeing him win this. I have to say tho, he has a very good way of convincing casuals that he will win during the build up.
Next should be Conor vs Gathje / Khabib vs Ferg / Lee vs winner of Diaz and Dustin.
I second Connor vs Gaethje
and give gaethje a break? please. he ain't worth it. mcgregor is all about business. he's not fighting for fighting.
On October 10 2018 00:59 traxamillion wrote:
I don't really see what is so bad about what Khabib did. What some of his teamates did was bad but Khabib didn't do shit. Khabib was just on beastmode; won one fight and was ready to go some more vs the rest of connor's squad (who remember mobbed on him 40 deep and when he couldn't do shit because he needed this fight to happen to get paid). Khabib had to listen to so much shit talking and about how much of a pussy he is for staying on the bus etc. but really he just couldn't jeapordize payday. Once this fight was over it was fucking on and he wanted that faggot Dillon Danis's head.
such an incredibly stupid post, good job.
lol. but he has a point. after a couple of days the brawl was like meh.
No, he doesn't. You must be a big fan of Kundera's "The unbearable lightness of being" since you believe that since everything will be forgotten everything is forgiven in advance. You know what is "meh" also these days? WW1, WW2, any war, and basically any bad shit that has happened. It's how our brain works, in the long run we forget about the bad stuff, that's why we don't learn from history and why the majority of people have a huge problem when it comes to learning from their mistakes.
If you can't see what's bad about violence, even when provoked (not physically provoked obv), then don't go to the cops if someone beats the shit out of you (Obv I hope that you never experience that), maybe the way you walked provoked him? I don't like the USA for many reasons, but their freedom of speech is the single most important thing that any other nation should adopt in their culture. There are plenty of ways to deal with little bitches that talk a lot, especially if you're in the position of Khabib after just destroying the biggest UFC star. Violence is not one of them. He could've just waited for the interview with Joe Rogan and could've completely shat on Conor's camp and the fact that the whole public would've "Booed" him makes his statement even stronger.
On a completely different note - I'm pretty sure Conor looked scares shitless after the first round. That's actually amazing, I still don't wonder what Khabib was telling him when GnPing him
Also during the post-fight press conference Tony Ferguson said he hasn't sparred for 4-5 years now. That is fucking insane, what a fucking god dude. Unfortunately, those leg injuries will most likely be deciding if he fights Khabib, Khabib locked Conor's legs and had them pressured 24/7 that shit must be intense, if your legs arent healthy its probably really fuck up your movement later on in the fight.
Watched the fight again and cardio really fucks up his game. After the first round his mouth open, hands completely down and already loading on punches (when you're exhausted, you tend to swing for the fence instead of keep hand up). Seeing this Kevin Lee, Tony F, Ortega, Holloway, Khabib could probably figure out a way to grind him down first two rounds and just outlast him on the feet the rest of the fight. Poirer or Eddie could probably do the same too. He did way better than expected on ground defense but like all fighters becomes cowards if they have no air left. He needs at least 40% more than 6 minutes if he intends to dominate the division.
On October 11 2018 21:10 Spitfiree wrote:
No, he doesn't. You must be a big fan of Kundera's "The unbearable lightness of being" since you believe that since everything will be forgotten everything is forgiven in advance. You know what is "meh" also these days? WW1, WW2, any war, and basically any bad shit that has happened. It's how our brain works, in the long run we forget about the bad stuff, that's why we don't learn from history and why the majority of people have a huge problem when it comes to learning from their mistakes.
as a spectator of a sport in which essentially has become like the WWE, that 'brawl' two days later is meh. i have my own life to worry about, which isn't meh to me. that event was nothing but a distraction to me. it's entertainment.
On a completely different note - I'm pretty sure Conor looked scares shitless after the first round. That's actually amazing, I still don't wonder what Khabib was telling him when GnPing him
this is true. conor's movement wasn't quite there too. it looked like he didn't train for anything where he's strong at and only trained for defending khabib's wrestling.
Also during the post-fight press conference Tony Ferguson said he hasn't sparred for 4-5 years now. That is fucking insane, what a fucking god dude. Unfortunately, those leg injuries will most likely be deciding if he fights Khabib, Khabib locked Conor's legs and had them pressured 24/7 that shit must be intense, if your legs arent healthy its probably really fuck up your movement later on in the fight.
maybe. but still wanna see that match up. i hope khabib doesn't get suspended that long.
PS. I hope Conor wins because his fighting style is the most exciting to me
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