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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 22 2017 01:34. Posts 13044

Date: Saturday, March 4th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 01:00 LP.net / 4pm PST / 7pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 2:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 4:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/




Main Card (PPV)

Tyron Woodley (16-3-1) vs. Stephen Thompson (13-1-1) (Welterweight Championship)
Lando Vannata (9-1) vs. David Teymur (5-1) (Lightweight)
Rashad Evans (19-5-1) vs. Dan Kelly (12-1) (Middleweight)
Amanda Cooper (2-2) vs. Cynthia Calvillo (3-0) (Women's Strawweight)
Alistair Overeem (41-15) vs. Mark Hunt (12-10-1) (Heavyweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Marcin Tybura (14-2) vs. Luis Henrique (10-2) (Heavyweight)
Darren Elkins (21-5) vs. Mirsad Bektic (11-0) (Featherweight)
Luke Sanders (11-0) vs. Iuri Alcantara (33-7) (Bantamweight)
Mark Godbeer (11-3) vs. Daniel Spitz (5-0) (Heavyweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Tyson Pedro (5-0) vs. Paul Craig (9-0) (Light Heavyweight)
Albert Morales (6-1-1) vs. Andre Soukhamthath (11-3) (Bantamweight)

Other

- Igor Pokrajac was expected to face Ed Herman at the event. However, Pokrajac pulled out of the fight in early February citing an injury, and was replaced by Gadzhimurad Antigulov. Then, on February 20, Herman revealed that he was injured and also unable to compete at the event, leaving the promotion searching for a replacement for Antigulov.
- Todd Duffee was expected to face Mark Godbeer at the event. However, Duffee pulled out of the fight in mid-February for undisclosed reasons. He was replaced by promotional newcomer Daniel Spitz.
- A heavyweight bout between Marcin Tybura and Luis Henrique, initially scheduled for UFC 208 is expected to take place at the event. The pairing was initially delayed as Henrique was unable to gain medical clearance by the NYSAC after a recent corrective eye surgery.
- Khabib Nurmagomedov had medical issues related to his weight cut and the doctors opted to pull him from the event on weigh-in day.

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 22 2017 01:39. Posts 13044




First impression of the match-ups:

• Woodley > Thompson
• Ferguson > Nurmagomedov
• Kelly > Evans
• Teymur > Vannata
• Overeem > Hunt
• Godbeer vs. Spitz (dunno)
• Henrique > Tybura
• Bektic > Elkins
• Sanders > Alcantara
• Pedro > Craig

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 22 2017 03:29. Posts 7499

Pretty dope card. Ferg vs Khabib is one of the best fights in a super long time, can't wait to see how it goes. If Khabib goes out there and dominates Ferg that'd be amazing, and if Tony beats him man thats an impressive streak.

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iakim322   United States. Feb 22 2017 11:34. Posts 1335

Pretty good card for sure. I like that they're trying to showcase Vannata by putting him on the main card and Teymur himself is obv more than legit. Only fight on the main card that is kinda whatever is Evans/Kelly

Kinda surprised Thompson is like a -145 favorite. I myself would love nothing more than to see Thompson highlight reel kick Woodley's face in as it's my opinion that Woodley is a terrible champion/fake individual/bad for the sport. But I'm wary of the fact that Woodley was still able to explode on Thompson and nearly finish him in one of the later rounds after Thompson had managed to gain some measure of control after Woodley's good first round. Not sure there is a more explosive athlete in terms of closing the distance, at least once in awhile, than Woodley. Going to hope the line moves more to a pick em and then get on Wonderboy, otherwise pass and just enjoy

Ferg vs Khabib is a great fight. I like Khabib in it but 2 to 1 is a bit steep for what I think is a pretty unpredictable fight. Agreed with Stim above. Whoever wins is going to come out looking really, really impressive

Only two I'm pretty sure I'm going to be on is Kelly and Bektic. Probably Vannata as well


lucky331   . Feb 22 2017 11:36. Posts 1124


  On February 22 2017 00:39 PuertoRican wrote:

• Ferguson > Nurmagomedov



interesting.. why? ferguson's td defense good?


PuertoRican   United States. Feb 22 2017 19:08. Posts 13044


  On February 22 2017 10:36 lucky331 wrote:
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interesting.. why? ferguson's td defense good?

Yes, Ferg has good TDD. Nurmy is the best wrestler in the division and probably in the entire UFC, so we'll have to wait and see how it goes.

Ferg will also have the proven cardio advantage and more ways to win the fight. Nurmy has 1 way to win, even though that 1 way is very deadly.

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 22 2017 21:18. Posts 13044

From HuskySamoan @ Sherdog: http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/kha...uson-pre-fight-analysis-gifs.3477263/

Life is often about checks and balances and this fight is no different. One thing I fail to hear many people mention when discussing this fight is that Khabib Nurmagomedov is the far better athlete of the two, he has the faster reflexes, the faster hand speed and is physically much stronger. However Tony has the longest reach of anyone Khabib has ever fought, Ferguson with a whopping 76.5 inch wingspan boasts the longest reach in the UFC's entire Lightweight division, along with his torrential offensive output and seemingly endless reservoir of energy to draw from, he's not without his own physical advantages going into this fight.

Closing the Distance

One of the key's for Khabib Nurmagomedov will be finding ways to effectively close the distance. His game is centered around getting a hold of his opponents and this will be crucial considering the reach and output of Ferguson. Khabib has shown us mainly a handful of ways he closes distance throughout his career of which are lead hooks, uppercuts and jump knees.






Tony Ferguson will want to look to counter the knees and uppercuts when Khabib leaps in to close distance by sliding off the center line and countering, that way he can effectively counter strike while also keeping separation in space between him and Khabib. When Khabib leaps in with hooks, Ferguson's cross and straight kicks down the middle will be there to counter and effectively halt Khabib's attempt at closing the distance. Also cashing in on an elbow when Khabib's leaving himself open on the inside while leaping in with a hook would not be a bad idea, opening a fighter up early often proves to be a huge advantage as the fight goes on.

Things to Avoid

One last way Khabib likes to close distance is by shooting in, while Nurmagomedov is excellent at getting takedowns from distance, his bread and butter is the body lock and chain wrestling from the cage. Khabib's first takedown attempt often fails when he shoots in at distance on a single or a double, but it causes his opponents to focus solely on defending the takedown so he effectively can close distance while mitigating the threat of repercussions. I believe this is something Khabib will want to avoid doing vs Tony Ferguson however. Ferguson is not a fighter who's all that worried about being taken down, he will look to exploit Khabib's openings with his own offense if the Russian tries shooting in. Tony being at his most lethal when he finds himself in the front headlock position, often times from his opponents shooting in on him.





And for Tony, considering in Combat Sambo chokes are not allowed so there's more of an emphasis on leg locks than in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or No Gi grappling, Khabib being a multiple time Combat Sambo world champion, I imagine he's been in countless leg lock attempts and is comfortable defending them in addition to his amazing positional control and thunderous ground and pound from top position, that will be even more of a threat if Ferguson has both of his hands attacking Khabib's leg he won't be able to effectively defend his face. El Cucuy will be in serious danger of getting his face smashed in if he thinks Imanari rolls and rolling for legs to get out of back body locks are good ideas vs Khabib.





Finding the Right Takedowns

While Tony is no stranger to being taken down, in his last 5 fights he was only taken down twice and that was by Rafael Dos Anjos who did not maintain top position for more than a few seconds each time. Both takedown attempts where thwarted by Tony's offensive rubber guard and butterfly guard. Also, Tony often allows himself to be put in jeopardy of being taken down to further his offensive attacks, he embraces the scrambles and works hard off of his back when he does wind up there. He attacks with leg locks, triangles, kimuras, sweeps, rubber guard and is very effective from his back at throwing elbows similar to Carlos Condit and he does it all relentlessly without tiring. Ferguson has also shown us taking him down is no easy task when he's focused on defending the takedown, and I suspect he will look for takedowns of his own at certain points in the fight vs Khabib.

As previously mentioned, Khabib may want to avoid shooting in on Ferguson but chain wrestling Ferguson against the cage may serve him well, it won't allow Ferguson the space to sprawl, it will inhibit his ability to attack with chokes and stifle his attempts at creating scrambles.

Khabib has shown us brilliant Judo throws from time to time throughout his career, because of the Gi in Sambo Judo techniques are more emphasized in Sambo than in MMA but Khabib is also a black belt in Judo. So this is none too shocking, however Khabib mostly uses his throws as a form of counter-wrestling so when Tony looks for a takedown of his own in a chain-wrestling sequence there will be openings for Khabib to hit his throws being the stronger man with the much lower center of gravity, I suspect with ease.





Khabib also has great position awareness, he commonly sets takedowns up to where he lands in his opponents half guard and side control. He's also quite savvy at attacking with trips while going for takedowns to give his opponents more to think about while jeopardizing their balance.








Controlling the Distance

Tony Ferguson is as gangly as they come, and using his length to control distance is going to be a key for him in this fight. Some of Ferguson's most effective strikes are his jabs and straight kicks. Which, in a 3 round fight we less often see the accumulative effects from but I feel they will pay off in the later rounds if he can effectively utilize his stiff jab, Khabib will begin to wear the damage. And darting his front kicks into the Dagestani's bread basket will also pay dividends at depleting his energy. These are also strikes that Ferguson has become very good at building off of to land combinations. Straight kicks and jabs are fundamental at controlling distance, and Tony will want to keep Khabib off of him as much as possible, especially in the early rounds.


(I'm sorry There's just not a lot gifs to find of Ferguson throwing straight kicks and jabs unfortunately)


In Closing

There's undoubtedly some question marks going into this fight that we lack sufficient information to draw upon. While Ferguson fights like a long lost Diaz brother in the sense that he never tires and the moment you begin to wane even the slightest, he begins to increase the intensity tenfold. We still have not seen Khabib fight past 3 rounds and there's reason to believe that an endless onslaught of takedown attempts isn't manageable for the full 25 minutes of a Championship fight.

While we have never seen anyone offer Khabib any real resistance from their back, nor threaten him in anyway. It has also been years since we've seen Ferguson controlled from his back and he seems to be effective at creating scrambles, attacking and frustrating his opponents whenever the fight has gone there in the past. We've also never seen Khabib face a guard practitioner like Ferguson before in MMA.

Tony Ferguson is kind of like Forrest Griffin in the sense that he needs to get punched in the face a few times before he gets in the zone, he comes out from the start aggressive but he usually loses the first round as you can see from his last 3 fights and both times he was rocked during this 9 fight win streak to the title were also in the first round vs Trujillo and Groovy Lando Vannata. Will Khabib be able to exploit this however?

Another big question mark is, while Tony seems to be a one man dynamo of energy, Khabib from top position seems to be a black hole that devours his opponents energy. His ability to trap your arms from half guard and land smashing ground and pound while you only have 1 arm to defend yourself, the way he looks for the crucifix when he passes into side-control when he pounds on you while you're defenseless, the constant takedowns and drag downs from riding position and how heavy from top he is. Maybe we finally see Ferguson's spirit break?

This is a clashing of two very different kinds of pressure fighters. Nurmagomedov's imposition of his will has been unstoppable while Ferguson's tenacity and perseverance in this current 9 fight run has seemed able to weather anything in his way.

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 22 2017 21:20. Posts 13044

From HeDucking @ Sherdog: http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/ufc...vs-wonderboy-ii-vegas.3475789/page-19

Ferg has some fantastic funk rolls he displayed against Thompson.



Rolls worked well against Khabib when Trujillo used em.





You see when Trujillo rolled in the first gif, Khabib was stifled when they stood up. Ferg will look to work the jab in these positions. Ferg may even have Khabib on bottom like Truijjilo nearly did which we havent seen Khabib before in.

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 22 2017 21:57. Posts 7499

Have we ever seen Khabib get tired? IIRC he looked pretty fresh at the end of the 3rd round in all his fights. But I do feel like his style costs a lot of energy.

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iakim322   United States. Feb 23 2017 00:20. Posts 1335

Khabib fought a top ranked Michael Johnson in his last fight and during round 3 of that fight, they caught Khabib on the mic talking to Dana White as well as MJ while he was smothering MJ. Something along the lines of 'Hey, you must give up. I must fight for the title yes?' Then he went ahead and submitted MJ. He sounded to be a tiny bit winded but I mean, who could blame him...with his focus in multiple spots. I don't think cardio will be an issue. But I guess you never know. I never would've guessed Conor Mcgregor would actually catch his second wind while Nate Diaz actually gassed a bit in round 4 of their second fight


Baalim   Mexico. Feb 23 2017 03:03. Posts 34250

Those gifs fo the funkrolls are very relevant, I think Khabib has to use the cage to pin him down or he wont be able to do much, Tony is very strong at scrambles and from his back, so If Khabib is unable to cut the cage and trap Tony in I think he will accumulate damage very fast, Tony is very aggro and lately more than ever and Khabib had a slow start and ate some good punches from Johnson.

I think Tony wins this one but its obv hard to say.

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northsails   Bulgaria. Feb 23 2017 10:59. Posts 410

I also think there is value to be had on Ferg, but at the same time I can't shake the image of him getting controlled on the ground against Danny Castillo. I mean if he had tough time getting up from under Castillo what is going to happen, when Khabib gets on top of him? Obv he has improved a lot since then, but still I think his wild and unpredictable style will get him taken down multiple times and if he is not able to get up quickly he is going to be in trouble. This rolls gifs look like cherry picking tbf , I mean Khabib absolutely dominated Trujilo and took him down like 20 times or something. And Tony wound up on the bottom with one of this rolls against Castillo and was not able to get back up till the end of the round.

Also I think clear way for him to win is to tire out Khabib and break him in later rounds. I expect him to lose the first few rounds most of the time, so this fight will be good for live betting. As for Khabib cardio, I don't think it is going to be an issue if he is able to impose his gameplan. He looked like a cardio machine against MJ and for him to get tired it should be that Tony is able to defend the takedowns and force him to fight stand up, where he will have a huge edge. Great match up that is - two monsters in their prime.

Like the line on Overeem. I think he should be able to handle Hunt pretty easy. Of course you never know with his chin and also tendency to get careless in fights, but he has been a lot more calculated as of late and Hunt is on a slide - He looked like shit against Brock and has been bitching and moaning about this fight ever since.


soberstone   United States. Feb 23 2017 21:36. Posts 2662

Hard to be convinced on Khabib's cardio 1 way or the other since he'll likely face more adversity as the fight goes on than he ever has in rds 2+. Easy to look fresh when you are just on top pissing on another man's soul but I do think he most likely comes in shape with excellent cardio given his world-class athleticism, top-notch training, and Dagastani heart.

All in all, I have a strangely strong feeling that Tony is gonna win the fight and finish Khabib in the 3rd/4thish.


[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Feb 24 2017 08:45. Posts 1585

been waiting for this fight foreverrrrrr. Lets go tonyyyyyy

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whamm!   Albania. Feb 24 2017 09:47. Posts 11625

Tony got this. LETS GO MOFO


jvilla777   Australia. Feb 24 2017 10:18. Posts 1348

Just a friendly reminder..

Lando Vanatta vs Tony Ferguson fight

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so this fight vs Khabib I have no idea what is going to happen, I have no predictions..

Lets go KHABIB!!!

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

PuertoRican   United States. Feb 24 2017 11:18. Posts 13044


  On February 24 2017 09:18 jvilla777 wrote:
Just a friendly reminder..

Lando Vanatta vs Tony Ferguson fight


What about it?

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jvilla777   Australia. Feb 24 2017 11:35. Posts 1348


  On February 24 2017 10:18 PuertoRican wrote:
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What about it?


Tony's chin questionnable... if Khabib catches him, can he survive the mauling if he was rocked like in the Lando fight?

Im still on the fence with this one... I have no idea what the f is going to happen... I'm not confident in who I think is going to win.

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

lucky331   . Feb 24 2017 14:18. Posts 1124

ferguson chin questionable? dont think so. hes as reckless as they come. he tends to go forward and takes the blows when he feels like it.


PuertoRican   United States. Feb 24 2017 19:45. Posts 13044


  On February 24 2017 10:35 jvilla777 wrote:
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Tony's chin questionnable... if Khabib catches him, can he survive the mauling if he was rocked like in the Lando fight?

Im still on the fence with this one... I have no idea what the f is going to happen... I'm not confident in who I think is going to win.



Aside from you, nobody is questioning Tony's chin in this fight.

Aside from that, Khabib isn't a power puncher, and his striking is below average and telegraphed.

Tony will get hit, but I'm not worried about him getting hurt in a striking battle.

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 24 2017 20:06. Posts 7499


  On February 24 2017 10:35 jvilla777 wrote:
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Tony's chin questionnable... if Khabib catches him, can he survive the mauling if he was rocked like in the Lando fight?

Im still on the fence with this one... I have no idea what the f is going to happen... I'm not confident in who I think is going to win.




lol what? Tony has never been stopped by strikes and walked through bombs from RDA. The Lando fight, he took a ton of bombs from an absolute monster and was ok. I think you don't realize how much of beast Lando is. He landed a bunch of monstrous strikes on Tony.

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Minsk   United States. Feb 24 2017 20:06. Posts 1558

I don't think Tony Fergusson can win unless he chokes Khabib out.
He doesn't have enough pure power to KO him, nor the body to withstand Khabib TDs.

His best skils are cardio, rolling with punches, conditioning, and will. None of those will help him against Khabibs strengths.
If he cant get up thas a lost round, a huge price to pay.


Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 24 2017 20:37. Posts 7499

It's very possible he can wear Khabib down. Like Puerto's post said, Khabibs style seems very taxing cardio wise for a 5 rounder. Then again he's never looked tired before from my memory. But Tony has a super active guard and insane pace similar to the Diaz bros.

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Minsk   United States. Feb 24 2017 21:18. Posts 1558

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 24 2017 22:58. Posts 13044



  On February 24 2017 19:06 Minsk wrote:
I don't think Tony Fergusson can win unless he chokes Khabib out.
He doesn't have enough pure power to KO him, nor the body to withstand Khabib TDs.

His best skils are cardio, rolling with punches, conditioning, and will. None of those will help him against Khabibs strengths.
If he cant get up thas a lost round, a huge price to pay.


In your opinion, what are Khabib's strengths? Wrestling and?

Also, if Khabib isn't able to rape Tony with his wrestling, do you think he will win the fight?

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whamm!   Albania. Feb 25 2017 02:29. Posts 11625

you mean like this gift by the UFC for dem Ruskkie fans to cheer about? before this fight he fought nobodys. He clearly lost here but won a UD lol


who he's beat (except for pre-roid championship run RDA)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khabib_Nurmagomedov

There's a list I saw about his opponents pre-UFC and their terrible shit records, this whole 16-0 is bullshit and I never really bought into the hype once I saw it. Tony Ferguson is long and offensive BJJ minded, he will catch his sloppy entries with a flying knee, elbow or with a darce and finish him under 3 rounds.


This is the video where Tony F calls him out on it that's really why I decided to check it for myself. "you lost to tibau man".

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whamm!   Albania. Feb 25 2017 02:29. Posts 11625

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Minsk   United States. Feb 25 2017 07:04. Posts 1558


  On February 24 2017 21:58 PuertoRican wrote:

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In your opinion, what are Khabib's strengths? Wrestling and?

Also, if Khabib isn't able to rape Tony with his wrestling, do you think he will win the fight?


His wrestling and spirit.
There isn't a physical way he isn't going to be able to rape Tony Fergusson with his wresling. It doesn't work physics wise. Tibau is a different body type.

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Minsk   United States. Feb 25 2017 07:10. Posts 1558

I don't think hell break him like he says, hell try. but hes still going to beat him convincingly, in a way where he understands he wont win a rematch.


Minsk   United States. Feb 25 2017 07:54. Posts 1558

I'm a very good fighter myself actually. I've been with these people that have wrestled bears. They're more animalistic, when they say they're going to break you, they already feel it. By the time they say it they already know.

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lucky331   . Feb 25 2017 10:13. Posts 1124

its funny how khebab vs. el cucuy is more interesting.


lucky331   . Feb 25 2017 10:38. Posts 1124


  On February 25 2017 06:04 Minsk wrote:
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... and spirit.



oh please...


whamm!   Albania. Feb 25 2017 13:55. Posts 11625

Tony will expose this kebabski. The only problem I see with Tony is getting hit by strong strikers like Conor, kebab has got shit for hands so this will end badly for kebab and people will stop believing this 24-0 bullshit Dana is selling to get Russia on board. Tony will submit him standing up, on his back or light him up on the feet, Cucuy is also very top level wrestler before going to MMA. His long, big ass frame will demolish this mental midget kibab lol

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jvilla777   Australia. Feb 25 2017 15:45. Posts 1348

LMAO calm down Ferguson fans...

Fark, its like everyone became fight experts all of a sudden.

Not saying Fergie cant win, we're only discussing ways how each fighter can win or lose. If you're biased towards a fighter then you probably shouldn't make any bets.

Like I said previously as much as I like Khabib, I still have no idea what the f is going to happen.

Side note: I didnt even realize Mark Hunt was fighting on this card.

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Feb 25 2017 18:24. Posts 9634

I dont see how this fight goes to 5 rounds either way, Khabib should easily last at least 4 rounds at his top game.

I'm guessing whoever wins the range war wins the fight. Ferguson s dangerous on the ground, but Khabib is a pure beast so and its the other way around when it comes to combo throws, Khabib just does it to get them to the ground, and sometimes feel like they are not coordinated well, which can be exploited by a good stirker.


Tibau fight seems like the easiest 29-28, with Tibau winning round 2, round 1 TIbau did absolutely nothing, round 3 he managed to put him on the ground for 3seconds and take his back for another 2 seconds doing no damage at all meanwhile, Khabib was controlling 95% of the fight and was doing much more dmg... dunno why would you think Tibau won that, TDD doesnt do much for points if u do no damage either.

Also Tibau looks like a worse version of RDA, which Khabib won against quite decisively. And a fight from 5 years ago can't really say much for the current situation

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 25 2017 21:55. Posts 13044

I forgot to mention that the UFC randomly added 2 extra fights to this card 2 days ago (February 23). Prior to 2 days ago, there was no mention of these fights. Since this is a really important card and there was only 10 fights listed after some people got hurt, it looks like the UFC probably rushed to put them together because 2 of the fighters were just signed recently, and the girl, Cynthia Calvillo, just fought 1 month ago on the regional scene. They're both on Fight Pass.

Amanda Cooper (2-2) vs. Cynthia Calvillo (3-0) (Women's Strawweight)
Albert Morales (6-1-1) vs. Andre Soukhamthath (11-3) (Bantamweight)

Regarding Calvillo, she is from Team Alpha Male, and should have the advantage on the feet. Cooper will be the thicker and much stronger woman and maybe even taller, while also having the wrestling advantage. I see this as the standard fight where 1 girl is brought in on short notice (2 weeks in this case) and loses a fight because she is too green and may also have UFC jitters, while her opponent is also taking this fight on short notice but she already has 2 fights in the UFC and has an entire season of TUF under her belt and will be confident going up against a weaker opponent. That being said, Calvillo did beat Aspen Ladd 3 years ago in the amateurs, while Cooper lost to Ladd as a professional 1.5 years ago. Maybe Calvillo will be more fresh because she just fought 1 month ago, while Cooper might be out of shape? Dunno.

Morales is a technical brawler who leaves his chin in the air. He's offensively dangerous, but is defensively weak. I don't know anything about Andre, aside from him being a striker.


http://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-209#/fight

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A lot of good information in this interview.

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lucky331   . Feb 26 2017 01:33. Posts 1124


  On February 25 2017 14:45 jvilla777 wrote:
LMAO calm down Ferguson fans...

Fark, its like everyone became fight experts all of a sudden.




that cos you're just plain wrong.


jvilla777   Australia. Feb 26 2017 02:19. Posts 1348


  On February 26 2017 00:33 lucky331 wrote:
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that cos you're just plain wrong.


Ok yeah all good. And I assume you fully believe you're right yeah?

And you're betting Fergie as well right? And with this belief of 100% of Fergie winning, you are also willing to bet whatever because you believe there is no way that he is going to lose yeah?

And with this mindset you're willing to bet him and at whatever odds right because you know for a fact he will NOT lose.

How bout a friendly bet at no odds given, if Fergie wins you take my bet, if Khabib wins I take your bet at no odds given?

We can escrow some PS money to one of the admins. Friendly bet. Are you keen?

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

whamm!   Albania. Feb 26 2017 05:34. Posts 11625

lines are great, Khabib -200
free monies jajajajaja


cariadon   Estonia. Feb 26 2017 07:01. Posts 4019

Woodley vs Thompson 2 is super interesting. Who will change their gameplan and to what?
If Woodley were more agressive i think he'd land significant stuff.


PuertoRican   United States. Feb 26 2017 09:52. Posts 13044


  On February 26 2017 01:19 jvilla777 wrote:
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Ok yeah all good. And I assume you fully believe you're right yeah?

And you're betting Fergie as well right? And with this belief of 100% of Fergie winning, you are also willing to bet whatever because you believe there is no way that he is going to lose yeah?

And with this mindset you're willing to bet him and at whatever odds right because you know for a fact he will NOT lose.

How bout a friendly bet at no odds given, if Fergie wins you take my bet, if Khabib wins I take your bet at no odds given?

We can escrow some PS money to one of the admins. Friendly bet. Are you keen?



You two should just fight each other.

You both train kickboxing for 4 months and agree on a weight limit. When July rolls around, you two and a couple of other LP guys can meet and we can stream it on the front page of LP.net for proof. The winner will get some cash and bragging rights.

I'm sure we can collect enough money to pay for your flights to a specific location since I assume you both are in different countries.

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lucky331   . Feb 26 2017 13:01. Posts 1124


  On February 26 2017 01:19 jvilla777 wrote:
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Ok yeah all good. And I assume you fully believe you're right yeah?

And you're betting Fergie as well right? And with this belief of 100% of Fergie winning, you are also willing to bet whatever because you believe there is no way that he is going to lose yeah?

And with this mindset you're willing to bet him and at whatever odds right because you know for a fact he will NOT lose.

How bout a friendly bet at no odds given, if Fergie wins you take my bet, if Khabib wins I take your bet at no odds given?

We can escrow some PS money to one of the admins. Friendly bet. Are you keen?




Would be happy to. ferguson is an underdog so i bet 50 and should win at least at +150. i pay you at ps if i lose. but if i win youpay me in bitcoin. ps tokens are no good to me.

and where did i say that ferguson is a 100% winner you dumb fucking fagget.

User was warned for this post.

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lucky331   . Feb 26 2017 13:02. Posts 1124


  On February 26 2017 08:52 PuertoRican wrote:
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You two should just fight each other.

You both train kickboxing for 4 months and agree on a weight limit. When July rolls around, you two and a couple of other LP guys can meet and we can stream it on the front page of LP.net for proof. The winner will get some cash and bragging rights.

I'm sure we can collect enough money to pay for your flights to a specific location since I assume you both are in different countries.



im pretty sure i can eat this guy for breakfast. i hope hes big. makes for an easier target.


jvilla777   Australia. Feb 26 2017 13:56. Posts 1348

@lucky331 haha

I'll put 50 for your 50 since ur so confident about Ferguson, how bout that, no odds.

You talk too much shit in a public forum, I'll happily fight you in a kick boxing match at 145?

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

lucky331   . Feb 26 2017 16:01. Posts 1124


  On February 26 2017 12:56 jvilla777 wrote:
@lucky331 haha

I'll put 50 for your 50 since ur so confident about Ferguson, how bout that, no odds.



nah. you cant hustle me into calling that.


  You talk too much shit in a public forum, I'll happily fight you in a kick boxing match at 145?



im 6 foot 3, 205 pounds and irish and i usually fight drunk. i wouldnt want to beat up a small skinny fagget like you. it would make me look bad. and your poor husband would have to look at your ugly face after im done with you.

again i bet 50 on ferguson at bookmaker odds at +270 odds. take it or leave it twinke toes.

 Last edit: 26/02/2017 16:05

jvilla777   Australia. Feb 26 2017 18:32. Posts 1348


 
im 6 foot 3, 205 pounds and irish and i usually fight drunk.



Mate your a joke, if you think describing yourself in a public forum intimidates me haha

From now on, on this website you'll be forever known as that angry little troll who starts shit in these discussion.

You remind me of Cole Miller when he was about to fight McGregor, talked a bunch of crap then faked a thumb injury.

But whatever.

I'm giving you free money at 1:1 odds plus since Fergie can't lose, it will also feed your ego when you take my money. I'm not trying to hustle you, I'm asking you to put your money where your mouth is.

We can escrow to Baal since he follows these threads.




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  On February 26 2017 15:01 lucky331 wrote:

im 6 foot 3, 205 pounds and irish and i usually fight drunk. i wouldnt want to beat up a small skinny fagget like you. it would make me look bad. and your poor husband would have to look at your ugly face after im done with you.




Are you reading before posting because this is some top notch cringe worth material that a little kid would write lol

This is some popcorn.gif shit and you're losing all credibility here. Who even says the word "fagget" these days haha wtf.

No one in this forum will take you seriously anymore if you don't take that bet, you'll be forever known as a shit talking troll.

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wongfeihung   United States. Feb 26 2017 19:06. Posts 48

Man, fuck the UFC fights. I need to see lucky vs jvilla now.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Feb 26 2017 19:57. Posts 9634

mad props to PR


iakim322   United States. Feb 26 2017 22:15. Posts 1335


  On February 26 2017 15:01 lucky331 wrote:
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nah. you cant hustle me into calling that.


  You talk too much shit in a public forum, I'll happily fight you in a kick boxing match at 145?



im 6 foot 3, 205 pounds and irish and i usually fight drunk. i wouldnt want to beat up a small skinny fagget like you. it would make me look bad. and your poor husband would have to look at your ugly face after im done with you.

again i bet 50 on ferguson at bookmaker odds at +270 odds. take it or leave it twinke toes.




Feels like if you're gonna go around telling people they're absolutely wrong about something, you'd be willing to risk more than 50 bucks on it. Then again you're apparently some dude tossing around the really outdated insult 'fagget' on forums. Stop giving Irish drunks a bad name. I usually find them quite personable



iakim322   United States. Feb 26 2017 22:19. Posts 1335


  On February 26 2017 04:34 whamm! wrote:
lines are great, Khabib -200
free monies jajajajaja



Has to be your favorite line. No real context...Just 'free monies' all the time in mma betting. So, how rich are you now bro? And...Can you write a book about the free monies you've won over the years? Would read


PuertoRican   United States. Feb 26 2017 22:22. Posts 13044




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Alright, let's get back on topic and stop talking shit to each other.

Only 6 days left until we get to see Tyron Woodley smash Stephen Thompson again.

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iakim322   United States. Feb 26 2017 22:30. Posts 1335


  On February 23 2017 20:36 soberstone wrote:
Hard to be convinced on Khabib's cardio 1 way or the other since he'll likely face more adversity as the fight goes on than he ever has in rds 2+. Easy to look fresh when you are just on top pissing on another man's soul but I do think he most likely comes in shape with excellent cardio given his world-class athleticism, top-notch training, and Dagastani heart.

All in all, I have a strangely strong feeling that Tony is gonna win the fight and finish Khabib in the 3rd/4thish.



Think I like/agree with that notion that Khabibs cardio will be tested like we haven't seen before. Definitely aren't many quite with Ferg's combination of pace, bit of power, and unorthodox style. Still think I'm going to be on khabib or pass though

For anyone interested, Luke Thomas put up a Ben Askren interview where he details what separates Khabib from even most other very good grapplers. The wrist control part is a pretty good listen/read

http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/2/25/...abib-nurmagomedovs-wrestling-mma-news

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 26 2017 23:00. Posts 13044

Amanda Cooper was already training to fight Alexandra Albu, but Albu got injured. Cooper has been training at least 8 weeks.

Calvillo was contacted about taking this fight on February 14 (Valentine's Day), so she has about 3 weeks notice for this fight.

Both girls are gym rats, so I don't think either will be out of shape.

Also, I forgot that Cooper has a boxing background, so she will be able to handle herself just fine on the feet. Coupled with her strength and decent wrestling, I think she'll win via decision, but who really knows with two low level female fighters...

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whamm!   Albania. Feb 27 2017 03:55. Posts 11625

dont mess with lucky331 he's a beast. i saw him beat up two guys no problem with a cigarette in hanging in his mouth, didn't even bother to throw it first like any tough guy would. legit badass. (also bit of a racist but don't tell him I said so)


whamm!   Albania. Feb 27 2017 06:42. Posts 11625


  On February 26 2017 21:19 iakim322 wrote:
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Has to be your favorite line. No real context...Just 'free monies' all the time in mma betting. So, how rich are you now bro? And...Can you write a book about the free monies you've won over the years? Would read


bro..

let's just wait till they fight. lol


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[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Feb 27 2017 22:47. Posts 1585


  On February 26 2017 21:22 PuertoRican wrote:



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Alright, let's get back on topic and stop talking shit to each other.

Only 6 days left until we get to see Tyron Woodley smash Stephen Thompson again.



was interesting. looking forward to the khabib breakdown

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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 28 2017 01:48. Posts 34250

Lucky 331 is at -160 now, looks like a bet to me Jvilla has no chance.

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TianYuan    Korea (South). Feb 28 2017 02:42. Posts 6817


  On February 26 2017 06:01 cariadon wrote:
Woodley vs Thompson 2 is super interesting. Who will change their gameplan and to what?
If Woodley were more agressive i think he'd land significant stuff.


Has Woodley ever done anything other than what he did in that fight?

.. I guess I'm not sure if Thompson has ever done anything differently either, to be fair.

Btw, is the height diff between Khabib and Ferguson really only 2 cm? Or is it one of those over-reported heights for Khabib, with maybe some height-cutting for Ferguson?

I'm ostensibly the same height as Ferguson but he looks so god damn tall/enormous. Bit worried about that.

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iakim322   United States. Feb 28 2017 06:17. Posts 1335

Woodley can't really just make an adjustment to be more consistently aggressive. Doubt it's in him as he's just such a dense and muscular guy where he's built more for those ridiculous, short explosive bursts. It's not like he can suddenly put on some kind of Ferguson or Diaz pace and he's pretty aware of that so he builds his pace around that. Would be better for him though if he didn't just go straight back when he's taking mini breathers though. Thompson is pledging to put more of a consistent pace on and let his hands go more this time but we'll see if he can really execute that properly once he tastes a Woodley right hand bomb again


whamm!   Albania. Feb 28 2017 12:02. Posts 11625

I will know right away if I am wrong about Tony totally making Khabib feel lost in there. I mean, the wrestling is a concern but Ferguson was a top level wrestler first before going into all sorts of arts and Khabib hasn't really fought anyone near Tony's wrestling/jits level which is why im suspecting all this rasslin hype is built by Dana. RDA is a blackbelt in BJJ sure, like anderson belfort Silva and every other brazilian fighter out there who dont even seem to use it. Tony's jits is for MMA by Bravo, Eddie talks in length about it in the JRE and you can see that his Jits is really aggressive EBI style not something he just uses when he's on the ground.

I can't wait to see the fight and surely I'll keep quiet if I see that Khabib is the monster everybody says he is, (bear wrestling lol). Or is he just another jake shields type who just got the right matchups and packaging. Tony's length will dictate this and I'm sure he wont fight like he does against his other opponents always recklessly engaging in the pocket


Montrachet   Canada. Feb 28 2017 19:37. Posts 120

I might be wrong about this and would need to check back fights but, the way you guys are describing Fergusson it kind of fits Johnson's description. Tall fighter, huge gas tank, fights tall, lots of volume and use to be a wrestler.


cariadon   Estonia. Feb 28 2017 20:46. Posts 4019

Sambo, Russia.. Anyone remember Emelianenko? I'm leaning Nurmagomedov, built from the same stuff. Also hope wonderboy eeks out the W.


Minsk   United States. Feb 28 2017 21:35. Posts 1558

Khabib is not Jake Shields.


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whamm!   Albania. Mar 01 2017 00:59. Posts 11625


  On February 28 2017 20:35 Minsk wrote:
Khabib is not Jake Shields.



Jake Shields before his debut back then, or probably closer to Askren today. Honestly would want to see Askren/Khabib fight if Khabib wins

And Johnson is really a fast twitch guy with hands, a very watered down version of Woodley who has on top of his fast twitch also has really a high wrestling pedigree and better timing/power, Tony Ferguson is totally different.

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Baalim   Mexico. Mar 01 2017 02:14. Posts 34250


  On February 28 2017 19:46 cariadon wrote:
Sambo, Russia.. Anyone remember Emelianenko? I'm leaning Nurmagomedov, built from the same stuff. Also hope wonderboy eeks out the W.




They are very different, Fedor was a much better striker and also less position-focused on his wrestling, Khabib is uncomfortable while striking from the outside he closes distance with one or two wild shots mostly while Fedor was very loose and comfortable striking with that weird "russian-hooking" style that his brother also uses.

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cariadon   Estonia. Mar 01 2017 16:49. Posts 4019


  On March 01 2017 01:14 Baalim wrote:
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They are very different, Fedor was a much better striker and also less position-focused on his wrestling, Khabib is uncomfortable while striking from the outside he closes distance with one or two wild shots mostly while Fedor was very loose and comfortable striking with that weird "russian-hooking" style that his brother also uses.


I didn't mean they fight the same, they have the same mentality. From this serene apparent calmness to monster in a splitsecond. Ferguson is this skateboarding dancing nancy while Khabib you know, wrestled bears and all that stuff.


PuertoRican   United States. Mar 02 2017 17:49. Posts 13044


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Watch from 8:35 to 11:00 of the video. Luke Thomas talks about Khabib not looking good during his interview today (Thursday) due to his weight cut.

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iakim322   United States. Mar 03 2017 10:19. Posts 1335

Works for me. Actually had changed my pick to Ferguson already. Just feel the odds should be closer and re-watching RDA vs Ferguson in Mexico...Ferguson's cardio is just too insane to ignore. Hoping Ferguson doesn't try anything fancy early, makes Khabib work hard and then pours it on mid rd 3 to 5. Thinking a finish somewhere in there if Ferg successfully makes Khabib expend a good bit of energy early

Thompson > Woodley. Bit of bias in here for me but also think I feel good about Thompson making the better adjustments. Hopefully he times Woodley's explosions better and backs Woodley into his straight line shell a bit more
Pedro > Craig
Ferguson > Khabib

Kelly > Evans and Reem > Hunt though I'm holding off on these two until after weighins

Hopefully the main and co-main end up as good/fun as they are on paper



jvilla777   Australia. Mar 03 2017 14:34. Posts 1348

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

Montrachet   Canada. Mar 03 2017 17:52. Posts 120

Why was GSP at UFC 209 trying gloves exactly?


Stim_Abuser   United States. Mar 03 2017 20:10. Posts 7499

Khabib vs Ferguson officially canceled. Khabib was in the hospital and couldn't make weight.

So fucking lame.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

PuertoRican   United States. Mar 03 2017 20:37. Posts 13044


  On March 03 2017 19:10 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Khabib vs Ferguson officially canceled. Khabib was in the hospital and couldn't make weight.

So fucking lame.


I feel bad for Tony...


  On March 03 2017 16:52 Montrachet wrote:
Why was GSP at UFC 209 trying gloves exactly?


GSP is back in the UFC. He will fight Michael Bisping later this year, probably at the PPV card in Canada.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Mar 03 2017 21:09. Posts 9634

There was a press conference @ 2nd about GSP - Bisping , they might've held it at the same venue

Khabib punched himself in the face ... I doubt he ll get a title shot any time soon now
I mean at least break your arm or something... not making weight is just pathetic at that level

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Mar 03 2017 22:14. Posts 7499


  On March 03 2017 19:37 PuertoRican wrote:
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I feel bad for Tony...




Eh he's still probably getting paid and likely auto gets next title shot, which could mean huge payday if Conor decides to fight. Possibly this ends up being the best outcome for him as I think Khabib had a good chance at beating him.

This is Khabibs 2nd time missing weight, would really suck if the LW division loses him. Don't think he will be that great at WW.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

Minsk   United States. Mar 03 2017 22:39. Posts 1558

That's almost insulting. Such a big letdown. I was looking forward to this fight.
Fucked it up, bad, man..

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whamm!   Albania. Mar 03 2017 22:48. Posts 11625

Lol kebabz pulls out better than aldo
Tony called him out on being fat and out of shape during one presscon and told him he hopes khabib "shows up" tsk tsk
Who's replacing him now? Card is fucked, but looking forward to Lando fight also

 Last edit: 03/03/2017 22:53

northsails   Bulgaria. Mar 04 2017 00:00. Posts 410

Unreal. This card went down the shitter.


PuertoRican   United States. Mar 04 2017 00:22. Posts 13044





Tyron Woodley (170) vs. Stephen Thompson (169) – for welterweight title
Tony Ferguson (154.5) vs. Khabib Nurmagomedov*
Rashad Evans (185) vs. Daniel Kelly (186)
David Teymur (156) vs. Lando Vannata (156)
Mark Hunt (265) vs. Alistair Overeem (256)
Luis Henrique (248.5) vs. Marcin Tybura (251.5)
Mirsad Bektic (145) vs. Darren Elkins (145.5)
Iuri Alcantara (135.5) vs. Luke Sanders (135)
Mark Godbeer (241.5) vs. Daniel Spitz (240)
Paul Craig (204) vs. Tyson Pedro (205)
Cynthia Calvillo (115.5) vs. Amanda Cooper (116)
Albert Morales (135.5) vs. Andre Soukhamthath (136)

* Nurmagomedov was hospitalized Thursday night, and though he was released, doctors did not clear him to fight. He did not attempt to make weight, and the interim lightweight title fight with Ferguson was canceled.

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whamm!   Albania. Mar 04 2017 01:03. Posts 11625

why did he pull out? he have an owie on his toe or something?


lucky331   . Mar 04 2017 01:49. Posts 1124

LOL. kebab is so scared he deliberately missed weight. what a fag just like kebab's supporters in this thread.


Baalim   Mexico. Mar 04 2017 02:08. Posts 34250


  On March 04 2017 00:03 whamm! wrote:
why did he pull out? he have an owie on his toe or something?



Weight cutting issues.


This has reached critical mass the UFC has to either change the way weight-ins work or create way more categories but I think the 2nd option would suck and is less economically viable, its time combat sports move away from weight cutting

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whamm!   Albania. Mar 04 2017 02:32. Posts 11625

yeah i agree. too many fights getting fucked over by this

smh bisping trying so hard to sell this fight, stil GSP has zero acting chops and getting owned

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jvilla777   Australia. Mar 04 2017 04:40. Posts 1348

As much as I want Khabib to win, I feel bad for Tony. He probably should get the title shot now vs Mcgregor.

This card also will not do that well now.

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

Bigbobm   United States. Mar 04 2017 06:53. Posts 5511

Balance riding on Jess 4 bets:

Bektic and Vannata
Woodley
Overeem and Evans
Pedro

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lucky331   . Mar 04 2017 07:42. Posts 1124

i think this is a simple case of khabib dodging ferguson and being a fagget.


  “Basically, his team had decided to take him to just some random hospital here in Las Vegas instead of picking up the phone and calling our doctor and calling Brianna [Mattison], who runs all the medicals,” White said. “They went rogue and went out and did their own thing. Had they done this thing the right way, the fight probably could have been saved.”



http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/3/3/1...-have-saved-fight-with-tony-fergusona


Baalim   Mexico. Mar 04 2017 09:41. Posts 34250

Why would a professional fighter dodge the biggest fight of his career for the belt and perhaps positioning him for one of the biggest fights ever in Moscow against McGregor, it doesnt make any sense.

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whamm!   Albania. Mar 04 2017 10:11. Posts 11625

Conor set the stage for these insane pressure cooker events for the UFC now that it's gotten sooo big in the US. Some dudes can't handle it and I'm starting to believe Conor is telling the truth when he says a lot of fighters dont show up come fight day.
War Vanata

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lucky331   . Mar 04 2017 14:12. Posts 1124


  On March 04 2017 08:41 Baalim wrote:
Why would a professional fighter dodge the biggest fight of his career for the belt and perhaps positioning him for one of the biggest fights ever in Moscow against McGregor, it doesnt make any sense.




just saying. khabib's team by not following the UFC's protocol concerning the medical condition of their fighter seems there's something fishy going on. i mean why did they go to a random doctor when there's a lot on the line? hiding PED use maybe? them dodging? dunno.. there must be something.

i cant take the whole thing at face value the way it went.

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lucky331   . Mar 04 2017 14:21. Posts 1124

anyway, hopefully the truth will come out soon. if it was really due to illness because of weight cutting then ok.


Stim_Abuser   United States. Mar 04 2017 18:04. Posts 7499


  On March 04 2017 13:12 lucky331 wrote:
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just saying. khabib's team by not following the UFC's protocol concerning the medical condition of their fighter seems there's something fishy going on. i mean why did they go to a random doctor when there's a lot on the line? hiding PED use maybe? them dodging? dunno.. there must be something.

i cant take the whole thing at face value the way it went.


Uh maybe because he was extremely sick and dehydrated and his team worried for his health? Thinking the 24-0 professional fighter and dagastinian who wrestled a bear when he was like 8 years old is afraid of Ferguson is hilarious.

Ridiculous of Dana to have wanted Khabib to come to the UFC first when Khabib was in such bad shape the doctor ruled him unfit to fight. He wasn't simply unable to make weight, he was medically uncleared and the NSAC pulled his license.

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lucky331   . Mar 05 2017 00:19. Posts 1124


  On March 04 2017 17:04 Stim_Abuser wrote:
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Uh maybe because he was extremely sick and dehydrated and his team worried for his health? Thinking the 24-0 professional fighter and dagastinian who wrestled a bear when he was like 8 years old is afraid of Ferguson is hilarious.

Ridiculous of Dana to have wanted Khabib to come to the UFC first when Khabib was in such bad shape the doctor ruled him unfit to fight. He wasn't simply unable to make weight, he was medically uncleared and the NSAC pulled his license.



i dont mean scared as in hes "scared" like a little bitch. its a tactical dodge because they know they dont have the advantage because maybe the weigh cutting was too much for kebab this time. who knows.. it has to be something. with so much on the line, why didnt they follow protocol and try to save fight?


Stim_Abuser   United States. Mar 05 2017 00:54. Posts 7499


  On March 04 2017 23:19 lucky331 wrote:
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i dont mean scared as in hes "scared" like a little bitch. its a tactical dodge because they know they dont have the advantage because maybe the weigh cutting was too much for kebab this time. who knows.. it has to be something. with so much on the line, why didnt they follow protocol and try to save fight?



My guess is with the interim title on the line Khabib put everything he had into making 155 pounds. Eventually he was in such horrible shape his team decided he needed to go to the hospital. I mean if the doctor declared him medically unfit to fight he must have been pretty bad. Once he was at that point there is no turning back. What would you have wanted him to do, decide he wasn't gonna make it and stop cutting 10 pounds out?

I highly doubt he avoided the fight on purpose. Pulling out probably sets him back more than a lose. Conor will never fight him now and claim Khabib is a pull out merchant. UFC probably has very little trust putting him in the Main/Co-main spot in fear of him fucking up a card again.

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PuertoRican   United States. Mar 05 2017 01:02. Posts 13044




My final picks:

• Woodley > Thompson
• Vannata > Teymur
• Kelly > Evans
• Calvillo > Cooper
• Overeem > Hunt
• Henrique > Tybura
• Bektic > Elkins
• Sanders > Alcantara
• Godbeer vs. Spitz (dunno)
• Pedro > Craig
• Morales > Soukhamthath

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NeverFelted   . Mar 05 2017 01:19. Posts 56

Why cant they just fight next month?


NeverFelted   . Mar 05 2017 01:32. Posts 56



DC beat me to it


PuertoRican   United States. Mar 05 2017 01:46. Posts 13044

Nice beat down by Tyson Pedro.

He landed them HELLbows.

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NeverFelted   . Mar 05 2017 02:38. Posts 56

LE GO NASHVILLE


NeverFelted   . Mar 05 2017 02:52. Posts 56

Great technique there. Iuri turned the whole fight in a instant, I didnt even think Sanders was vulnerable from that position .


traxamillion   United States. Mar 05 2017 02:53. Posts 10468

Sick clutch by Alcantara after getting his ass beat. Was that sub twisting the ankle or hyperextending the knee?


NeverFelted   . Mar 05 2017 02:54. Posts 56

Says it was the knee


PuertoRican   United States. Mar 05 2017 02:55. Posts 13044

Well that sucked...

Sanders raped Alcantara for 90% of the fight, then Alcantara rolls and gets his leg and submits him...

Sigh.

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CamilaPunt   Brasil. Mar 05 2017 02:59. Posts 2422

ref was about to stop it like 3 times sanders didn't capitalize on it


NeverFelted   . Mar 05 2017 03:04. Posts 56

^^^^


jvilla777   Australia. Mar 05 2017 03:21. Posts 1348

The damage on Elkins forehead... Daaamn

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

CamilaPunt   Brasil. Mar 05 2017 03:25. Posts 2422

fuck yeah elkins


PuertoRican   United States. Mar 05 2017 03:25. Posts 13044

Bektic is a 1 round fighter.

Happy for Elkins!

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traxamillion   United States. Mar 05 2017 03:27. Posts 10468

Wow sickest comeback from Elkins. Card is good for just that 1 fight


alejandicto   . Mar 05 2017 03:32. Posts 865

Sick comeback


PuertoRican   United States. Mar 05 2017 03:59. Posts 13044

Henrique with the boring performance.

What an asshole.

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jvilla777   Australia. Mar 05 2017 04:10. Posts 1348

Thank god that lay and prayer did not win.

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

PuertoRican   United States. Mar 05 2017 04:33. Posts 13044

Goodnight, Mr. Hunt!

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jvilla777   Australia. Mar 05 2017 04:46. Posts 1348

Hunt was out before he hit the ground. That knee bro..

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

PuertoRican   United States. Mar 05 2017 04:50. Posts 13044

SICK grappling by Cynthia Calvillo!!!

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TimDawg    United States. Mar 05 2017 04:58. Posts 10197

anybody got a stream?

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

jvilla777   Australia. Mar 05 2017 05:02. Posts 1348

I'd usually go to fixalen.tv for the streams

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

Bigbobm   United States. Mar 05 2017 05:06. Posts 5511


  On March 05 2017 03:58 TimDawg wrote:
anybody got a stream?



http://www.safeapknew.com/stream/ufc.html

found on reddit

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NeverFelted   . Mar 05 2017 05:26. Posts 56

This kelley is a badass, basically saying he will fight anyone, anywhere, on one leg.

 Last edit: 05/03/2017 05:29

PuertoRican   United States. Mar 05 2017 05:29. Posts 13044

I'm happy Daniel Kelly didn't get robbed out of this win. He looked as good as I thought he would.

Despite losing, Rashad looked good tonight, it was just a bad match-up. He couldn't use his wrestling, he couldn't get the KO, and he didn't have enough output to out-strike Kelly. I'd like to see Rashad fight 1 more time at 185.

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whamm!   Albania. Mar 05 2017 05:44. Posts 11625

WAR VANATTA

 Last edit: 05/03/2017 05:44

iakim322   United States. Mar 05 2017 05:44. Posts 1335

I disagree. In that, if he's still going to have that kinda low volume after dropping down and against a guy who didn't pose a real knockout threat to make him gun shy, then Rashad is going nowhere and all I wanna see him in is basically a retirement fighy. I guess the threat of judo throws factors into it...But still.

Nice little 3-0 for me tonight though I didn't really enjoy wondering if mark hunt was dead. Let's go Wonderboy to cap it


whamm!   Albania. Mar 05 2017 05:49. Posts 11625

dont gas lando lol
UFC might rig this for lando if he's behind haha

 Last edit: 05/03/2017 05:59

PuertoRican   United States. Mar 05 2017 06:04. Posts 13044

Great performance from David Teymur.

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jvilla777   Australia. Mar 05 2017 06:09. Posts 1348

Im surprised the judges didn't give the first round to Vannata

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

whamm!   Albania. Mar 05 2017 06:10. Posts 11625

lando wont last if he keeps absorbing strikes haha


iakim322   United States. Mar 05 2017 06:11. Posts 1335

It's like the UFC had repeatedly told the announcing trio to overhype that fight because of the elephant in the room: the missing khabib fight. Was a decent fight at best. They made it seem like it was an awesome one. Glad they weren't even thinking about robbing Teymur. Still though, tepid lead in to the main with the Evans fight and this for what was supposed to be a great PPV


PuertoRican   United States. Mar 05 2017 06:14. Posts 13044


  On March 05 2017 05:11 iakim322 wrote:
It's like the UFC had repeatedly told the announcing trio to overhype that fight because of the elephant in the room: the missing khabib fight. Was a decent fight at best. They made it seem like it was an awesome one. Glad they weren't even thinking about robbing Teymur. Still though, tepid lead in to the main with the Evans fight and this for what was supposed to be a great PPV


Not an amazing PPV card, but the first 4 fights have been entertaining.

Reem showed improved skill and got the finish via KO.

Calvillo showed slick grappling and got a fast submission.

Kelly and Rashad had a lot of striking, even though they didn't show super technical skills.

Teymur and Vannata was full of technical striking and the fight was at a high pace for 15 minutes.

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iakim322   United States. Mar 05 2017 06:24. Posts 1335

Wonderboy looks solid as f. Knock on wood jinx


iakim322   United States. Mar 05 2017 06:30. Posts 1335

Self proclaimed 'best welterweight ever' doin absolutely nothing tho


ERASA   Germany. Mar 05 2017 06:31. Posts 2440

So Maia cant get a titleshot because he is boring... yeah ok


iakim322   United States. Mar 05 2017 06:33. Posts 1335

Op there's the jinx


PuertoRican   United States. Mar 05 2017 06:46. Posts 13044

Can't believe Tyron Woodley is going to lose his title because he is too inactive, and his opponent landed like 35 or less significant strikes in 5 rounds to win the title...

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whamm!   Albania. Mar 05 2017 06:48. Posts 11625

a draw should be counted as a loss for both fighters so that we never see this bullshit in a title fight ever again lmao
give tyron the goddamn belt already and move on to the next guy.

 Last edit: 05/03/2017 06:50

alejandicto   . Mar 05 2017 06:52. Posts 865

wtf


iakim322   United States. Mar 05 2017 06:52. Posts 1335

This could be another draw. But probably 48-47 Wonderboy


PuertoRican   United States. Mar 05 2017 06:53. Posts 13044

WOW! Woodley won it!

It was almost another DRAW!

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iakim322   United States. Mar 05 2017 06:53. Posts 1335

Alright I guess


NMcNasty    United States. Mar 05 2017 06:53. Posts 2039

Honestly thought it was another draw.


Bigbobm   United States. Mar 05 2017 06:54. Posts 5511

if they book another fight between these two, i might fall asleep and never wake up

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Montrachet   Canada. Mar 05 2017 06:54. Posts 120

So which round out of 1-2-4 did they give to Tyron? Nobody will argue with R3 and R5 going to Tyron.

Get Demian Maia in there ffs


alejandicto   . Mar 05 2017 06:56. Posts 865

Dan bilzerian? =O


NMcNasty    United States. Mar 05 2017 06:56. Posts 2039


  On March 05 2017 05:54 Bigbobm wrote:
if they book another fight between these two, i might fall asleep and never wake up



I literally fell asleep for part of this fight, but other fights on this card tonight were fantastic and hard acts to follow.


goswser   United States. Mar 05 2017 06:57. Posts 9

Bullshit decision, should have been a tie or a nudge for Thompson. Woodley clearly lost 1-2-4.


iakim322   United States. Mar 05 2017 06:58. Posts 1335

Can't give Woodley 1, 2, 4. Thought it should be a draw because one of the rounds shoulda been 10-10 at best for Woodley if not just giving a razor close one to Thompson and having it 3-2 in rounds for Thompson again. Oh well. Best welterweight ever lives on for another money fight


ERASA   Germany. Mar 05 2017 07:00. Posts 2440

Who gets the next titleshot now?


iakim322   United States. Mar 05 2017 07:06. Posts 1335

Woodley gonna sit on it and wait/cry/hope gsp comes for it. Only gsp already knows Woodley is a bad matchup for him hence committing to bisping days before the welterweight title fight. Going to be a dumb clusterf@$k til late in year is my guess


PuertoRican   United States. Mar 05 2017 07:07. Posts 13044





Won $98, profit $47 on DraftKings. I managed to cash with my main team, even though 2 of my guys lost by decision. I wasn't able to win 1st place, but I would've won a lot of money if Woodley and Vannata won ITD like I thought they would.

$15k for 1st place looked so sweet, but it wasn't meant to be. Oh well.

We have UFC for the next 2-3 weeks in a row, so hopefully I can get lucky.

And yes, Wonderboy got robbed tonight, but Woodley got robbed in their first fight, so I don't feel sorry for him.

Edit: Correction, I personally gave Wonderboy the win tonight, but it wasn't a clear win because he barely threw any strikes. Woodley clearly won their first fight, imo.

Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 05/03/2017 07:26

lucky331   . Mar 05 2017 08:04. Posts 1124

black guy won. see? the UFC aint racist. LOL


lucky331   . Mar 05 2017 09:19. Posts 1124

black guy won. see? the UFC aint racist. LOL


traxamillion   United States. Mar 05 2017 11:16. Posts 10468

god that last fight was garbage. Lol @ thompson blowing it in the last 30 seconds...


lucky331   . Mar 05 2017 12:33. Posts 1124

yeah just saw the replay... whatever. im glad i won my bet. so i cant complain and get butthurt.


cariadon   Estonia. Mar 05 2017 19:40. Posts 4019

i just watched five rounds of sparring


PuertoRican   United States. Mar 05 2017 21:02. Posts 13044


  On March 05 2017 18:40 cariadon wrote:
i just watched five rounds of sparring


That's not even considered light sparring. It was two giys waiting and waiting to counter each other.

Wonderboy admitted to throwing several different feints and hoping to get Woodley to react, but he wouldn't. Both guys expected each other to come with a new game plan, but they did the same thing like in their first fight, but were much more cautious this time, which meant we saw 25 mins of trash and Wonderboy gave up his chance of fighting for the title by doing nothing. He has to hope Woodley loses his title, or else he'll never get another title shot.

I take Woodley over Maia if they ever fight. Maia is scheduled to fight Jorge Masvidal next.


Rekrul is a newb 

PuertoRican   United States. Mar 05 2017 21:35. Posts 13044




Charlize Theron during the prelims last night.

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NeverFelted   . Mar 05 2017 23:33. Posts 56

She really is the coolest


lucky331   . Mar 06 2017 16:12. Posts 1124


  On March 05 2017 20:02 PuertoRican wrote:
Show nested quote +



I take Woodley over Maia if they ever fight. Maia is scheduled to fight Jorge Masvidal next.




same here. this is the woodley era.


alejandicto   . Mar 06 2017 17:52. Posts 865


  On March 05 2017 20:35 PuertoRican wrote:



Charlize Theron during the prelims last night.



lol what is the story behind that :O




Baalim   Mexico. Mar 07 2017 00:04. Posts 34250

Wonderboy seems to have the same problem Anderson Silva does, when the opponent doesnt attack he simply doesnt do shit I mean, Rory McDonald demolished Woodly against the cage, feint him and pot shot him all fight long its not like his rushes are really dangerous, all you have to avoid is overcommit and Wonderboy never does, it is ridiculous its a dream match for him and he somehow sits there literally fainting 20 times in a row without throwing a single strike... ffs

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cariadon   Estonia. Mar 07 2017 16:40. Posts 4019

Good point. I thought the same thing when Wonderboy just kept waiting for something that didn't happen with no adjustments.


 



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