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Liquid`Drone   Norway. Jul 27 2017 12:02. Posts 3093

he's clearly not just talking about what has empirically been true but also about what he idealizes, though. And I'm not saying government should be worshiped but it's a better option than god.

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NMcNasty    United States. Jul 27 2017 15:59. Posts 2039


  On July 27 2017 05:16 Stroggoz wrote:
The word 'we' only works if it applies to say half of the public tho, and not everyone



Well, that's the obvious problem with the tweet but its also why it was constructed in the first place. Its an all caps tweet with no context, its meant to offend the other half of the public.


NMcNasty    United States. Jul 27 2017 16:06. Posts 2039


  On July 27 2017 11:02 Liquid`Drone wrote:
he's clearly not just talking about what has empirically been true but also about what he idealizes, though



I don't even really think its something he idealizes though as would say George W. Bush and probably a majority of other American conservative figures. In Trump's case its just a straight con job.


Santafairy   Korea (South). Jul 27 2017 19:20. Posts 2226


  On July 23 2017 22:04 Spitfiree wrote:
I don't think you are a certain type of gullible Santafairy.


I get that you are trying to le ebin call me a dipshit but it could still just as easily be that you can't read


  On July 23 2017 22:04 Spitfiree wrote:
Yeah he didn't ban muslims, my bad, he was taking measures against possible threats, whoops forgot to include Saudi Arabia and then signed the biggest deal with them, even though they are the country financing global terrorism.


it was still the obama administration's list, political hack

furthermore what you're saying about money isn't the same as the US facing terror/etc. risk from the country's nationals that travel/immigrate to the US

furthestmore the fact that you think saudi arabia is a threat and was ignored isn't proof that the 7 affected countries aren't security threats


  On July 23 2017 22:04 Spitfiree wrote:
You also said that Edward Snowden is threat to the national security of The United States, well played.


no I agree with you on that because I'm not a tribal hack, "muh" is an internet word to make fun of something, however I recognize we were trying to talk about accomplishments which is pointless if you change the issue to "accomplishments that I also personally like are the only ones that count" when you reflexively/automatically think anything he'll ever do is shit


  On July 23 2017 22:04 Spitfiree wrote:
Also yeah, FBI chief wont get his job back, that makes Trump right, good job to him, he s the man with power, whichever direction he waves his dick to is the right one.

How sad and delusional


why are you, a bulgarian communist (iirc?) poker shitposter, living in a universe where you think it's worth caring who the director of the FBI is, let alone should most people in the USA care at all


  On July 23 2017 22:04 Spitfiree wrote:
Also I was laughing at him naming his campaign "America first" and then stating that any deal would be "mutually beneficial" - an oxymoron, you re too stuck up to get it I guess.


it would be mutually beneficial if you're operating from the perspective that all previous deals have been "America raped" which has been Trump's consistent message for 30 years (and yes he literally said rape before at a rally or somewhere), because "America first" would balance things out for once, how do YOU not get this? even if you don't believe it's true how do you still not get the point of view

he's removing/instituting regulations at a ratio of like 16:1 which is great

unfortunately government in the US is 3-tiered and you have to apply the same philosophy to the federal and local levels to return to sanity

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jul 27 2017 21:48. Posts 9634

I'm a bulgarian communist indeed, weakly minded snowflake Your delusion is almost unbelievable


  it was still the obama administration's list, political hack


Didn't know Obama s still the president. That actually makes this video quite feasible



The regulations removal is indeed a great policy. That's about the only thing he s done right, now go ahead and stick your head back into your ass. Just make sure to put some coal in the cauldron so you won't freeze. Keep using those thin arguments, they definitely back up your statements. I'm not here to change your perspective, was just answering your nonsense but I've figured out it's a time waste, you're reaching for straws, it's embarrassing to read.



  On July 27 2017 05:16 Stroggoz wrote:
That doesn't seem like such a bad tweet. seems empirically true to me



I mean... he could potentially know what the word "empirical" means, after all... he does know words... I sincerely doubt it though.


  On July 27 2017 11:02 Liquid`Drone wrote:
he's clearly not just talking about what has empirically been true but also about what he idealizes, though. And I'm not saying government should be worshiped but it's a better option than god.



There s no such thing as "the better option" when it comes to governing people, which is what both the government and religion attempts to do. Also that tweet is just securing a bunch of voters attention, he was probably shown some polls and was like "yeah its a good time to involve god", after all his electorate consists of people which are extremely dumb and therefore religious ( all dumb people are religious, doesn't mean all religious people are dumb before someone tries to bash me on that, its a common misperception ) and those who vote against the status quo, which is Santafairy s case (except he s most likely realizes how retarded Trump is but looks of ways to validate his choice, even though there is no reason to validate shit since both presidential options were shit)

 Last edit: 27/07/2017 21:54

Baalim   Mexico. Jul 28 2017 00:36. Posts 34250


  On July 27 2017 11:02 Liquid`Drone wrote:
And I'm not saying government should be worshiped but it's a better option than god.



holy fucking shit... NO

The only worse idea than to worship an imaginary deity is worship actual people who hold power over you, you are a history teacher for fucks sake.

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jul 28 2017 04:01. Posts 5297

i know a historian who compiled all the stupid things obama said https://williamblum.org/essays/read/if-you-like-obama-youll-love-trump

anyway yeah drone is right about it obviously not being meant as an empirical true statement

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Liquid`Drone   Norway. Jul 29 2017 09:02. Posts 3093


  On July 27 2017 23:36 Baalim wrote:
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holy fucking shit... NO

The only worse idea than to worship an imaginary deity is worship actual people who hold power over you, you are a history teacher for fucks sake.


taken literally then yeah actual worship of government is worse than people worshiping god. but people 'having faith' in government institutions on average corresponds with a good, well-functioning society. (mostly because this being real rather than imaginary means that trust in government institutions corresponds with how well they function. Not the only thing it corresponds with, but definitely that as well. )

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jul 29 2017 09:24. Posts 9634

Baal always gets way too involved the moment anyone implies that people should trust their governments :D I mean he s correct, just going over the line


VanDerMeyde   Norway. Jul 29 2017 10:19. Posts 5108

Spitfiree english please. I have no idea what your babble means

:DLast edit: 29/07/2017 10:21

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Jul 29 2017 12:58. Posts 5108

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/world/europe/italy-plans-naval-mission-off-libya-to-stop-migrant-boats.html

And a lot of other things going on to stop this madness too....

So my solution/suggestion in 2015 basicly ended up as a solution in the end here as well. Could we not just do this from day 1 ? Listening to others that has experience dealing with the same problem is never a bad idea it seems



:D 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jul 29 2017 15:40. Posts 9634


  On July 29 2017 09:19 VanDerMeyde wrote:
Spitfiree english please. I have no idea what your babble means



There s no wonder in that, people like you prefer to read tabloids with simple sentences.




Baal, could you check the ISP used by that user and figure out who of the two - VanDer or Santafairy it is that did that, don't ban them I just want to expose one of the two and laugh at them. I'm guessing it's VanDer, as he s infantile and he did previously sent around 5 PMs flaming me.

P.S. if the image isnt showing just copy paste the url

 Last edit: 29/07/2017 15:41

Santafairy   Korea (South). Aug 08 2017 15:19. Posts 2226


  On July 29 2017 14:40 Spitfiree wrote:
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There s no wonder in that, people like you prefer to read tabloids with simple sentences.




Baal, could you check the ISP used by that user and figure out who of the two - VanDer or Santafairy it is that did that, don't ban them I just want to expose one of the two and laugh at them. I'm guessing it's VanDer, as he s infantile and he did previously sent around 5 PMs flaming me.

P.S. if the image isnt showing just copy paste the url

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Baalim   Mexico. Aug 09 2017 02:13. Posts 34250


  On July 29 2017 14:40 Spitfiree wrote:
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There s no wonder in that, people like you prefer to read tabloids with simple sentences.




Baal, could you check the ISP used by that user and figure out who of the two - VanDer or Santafairy it is that did that, don't ban them I just want to expose one of the two and laugh at them. I'm guessing it's VanDer, as he s infantile and he did previously sent around 5 PMs flaming me.

P.S. if the image isnt showing just copy paste the url


It was none of them, they do live where they listed (norway and korea) and that PM you got came from Finland

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Baalim   Mexico. Aug 09 2017 02:25. Posts 34250


  On July 29 2017 08:02 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +



taken literally then yeah actual worship of government is worse than people worshiping god. but people 'having faith' in government institutions on average corresponds with a good, well-functioning society. (mostly because this being real rather than imaginary means that trust in government institutions corresponds with how well they function. Not the only thing it corresponds with, but definitely that as well. )



"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority" - Benjamin Franklin

"Make yourself sheep and the wolves will eat you" - Benjamin Franklin

I believe its our duty as individuals to question authority and I also strongly believe that mistrust to government is essential for a healthy society.

I obviously dont mean to boycott any action, but to always scrutinize, question and never trust blindly.

Power is such a difficult thing to handle and men are so fallible that I think that anyone who disagrees with that is extremely gullible.

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Aug 10 2017 05:43. Posts 5108



I suspect this is the case in many muslim countries ! Remember this when people are telling you "1.5 billion muslims bla bla"

Millions are leaving Islam, but I wonder how many % were never there at all...

:DLast edit: 10/08/2017 05:48

Baalim   Mexico. Aug 10 2017 06:46. Posts 34250

And that is Malaysia, the shining example of Islam according to Reza Aslan lol

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Santafairy   Korea (South). Aug 12 2017 08:29. Posts 2226

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

Santafairy   Korea (South). Aug 15 2017 13:30. Posts 2226

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Aug 15 2017 20:05. Posts 9634

His original response was quite late, seemed insincere and absolutely weak. He's indeed the president and there are probably hundreds of other shit he s handling and that doesn't directly mean he s thinking what the other media are saying he s thinking, but it was a pretty poor execution on his side nevertheless. Also it's much easier to tell a reporter to write something in a piece of paper and print it, quite another to go out in public and address the world.

Apart from I hope he listens to someone adequate about the NK "crisis" as going to war would mean the death of millions in South Korea. Doesn't even matter if they are able to use their nukes or not. It seems like there is no global villain in the world atm as ISIS is pretty much done and North Korea is the only suitable one. With that in mind, China will certainly not be happy with a unified Korea and the crisis could spin way out of NK/SK. That zone of influence is the only territory in the world which the USA doesn't fully control and hopefully, they'll give up on it.

The only "peaceful" solution would be to finance some kind of an opposition, but my mind can't even bear the possibility of such thing developing enough to have an impact in the next 10 years.

 Last edit: 15/08/2017 20:08

 
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