https://www.liquidpoker.net/


LP international Poland    Contact            Users: 601 Active, 1 Logged in - Time: 10:18

UFC FN 89: Rory vs. Wonderboy

New to LiquidPoker? Register here for free!
Forum Index > Sports and Betting
PuertoRican   United States. Jun 05 2016 21:49. Posts 13051

Date: Saturday, June 18th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 23:45 LP.net / 3:45pm PST / 6:45pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 01:30 LP.net / 5:30pm PST / 8:30pm EST
Main Card (Fox Sports 1): 03:30 LP.net / 7:30pm PST / 10:30pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/




Main Card (Fox Sports 1)

Rory MacDonald (18-3) vs. Stephen Thompson (12-1) (Welterweight)
Donald Cerrone (29-7) vs. Patrick Cote (23-9) (Welterweight)
Steve Bosse (11-2) vs. Sean O'Connell (17-7) (Light Heavyweight)
Olivier Aubin-Mercier (7-2) vs. Thibault Gouti (11-1) (Lightweight)
Valerie Letourneau (8-4) vs. Joanne Calderwood (10-1) (Women's Flyweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 2)

Jason Saggo (11-2) vs. Leandro Silva (19-3-1) (Lightweight)
Misha Cirkunov (11-2) vs. Ion Cutelaba (11-1) (Light Heavyweight)
Tamdan McCrory (14-3) vs. Krzysztof Jotko (17-1) (Middleweight)
Chris Beal (10-2) vs. Joe Soto (15-5) (Bantamweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Elias Theodorou (11-1) vs. Sam Alvey (26-7) (Middleweight)
Randa Markos (5-3) vs. Jocelyn Jones-Lybarger (6-2) (Women's Strawweight)
Jonathan Meunier (7-0) vs. Colby Covington (8-1) (Welterweight)
Ali Bagautinov (13-4) vs. Geane Herrera (9-1) (Flyweight)

Other

- This event will mark the promotion's inaugural fight in the women's flyweight division as former UFC Women's Strawweight Championship challenger Valerie Letourneau will face Joanne Calderwood. Despite that, a formal introduction of the division has not yet been made since promotion officials are still determining whether or not to permanently add the division.
- Norifumi Yamamoto was scheduled to face Chris Beal at the event. However, Yamamoto was pulled from the bout on May 26 due to an undisclosed injury. He was replaced by former Bellator Featherweight Champion and one time UFC Bantamweight Championship challenger Joe Soto.
- Alex Garcia was scheduled to face Colby Covington, but pulled out on June 9 due to undisclosed reasons. He was replaced by promotional newcomer Jonathan Meunier.

Facebook Twitter
Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 18/06/2016 17:36

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 05 2016 21:54. Posts 13051

First impression of the match-ups:

• Thompson > MacDonald
• Cote > Cerrone
• Bosse > O'Connell
• Mercier > Gouti
• Letourneau > Calderwood
• Cirkunov > Cutelaba
• McCrory > Jotko
• Beal > Soto
• Theodorou > Alvey
• Markos > Lybarger
• Garcia > Covington
• Herrera > Bagautinov
• Silva > Saggo

Rekrul is a newb 

soberstone   United States. Jun 06 2016 02:08. Posts 2662

MacDonald > Thompson - Great fight. I favor MacDonald ever so slightly, but there's no doubt Thompson is the better and more dangerous striker early in the fight. Should be a war.

Cerrone > Cote - Excited to see Cerrone at 170, he was a massive LW and it seemed like the cut was pretty brutal. He's not as durable as Cote but other than that he's better everywhere.

Interested to see Herrera and Saggo - I think they are both good prospects with tough matchups.

Very well-matched card on the whole, all the fights are competitive.




PuertoRican   United States. Jun 06 2016 16:09. Posts 13051





Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 10/06/2016 19:24

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 10 2016 03:24. Posts 13051



----------

"Alex Garcia was scheduled to face Colby Covington, but pulled out on June 9 due to undisclosed reasons. He was replaced by promotional newcomer Jonathan Meunier."

----------

I just updated the OP. It looks like the UFC decided to start this card later than their usual cards.

The new schedule looks like this:

Date: Saturday, June 18th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 23:45 LP.net / 3:45pm PST / 6:45pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 01:30 LP.net / 5:30pm PST / 8:30pm EST
Main Card (Fox Sports 1): 03:30 LP.net / 7:30pm PST / 10:30pm EST

Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 13/06/2016 01:27

alejandicto   . Jun 14 2016 15:29. Posts 865

Not betting on this card, but I think Rory win this.


PuertoRican   United States. Jun 14 2016 20:08. Posts 13051

"Fighters will be able to weigh-in at the fighter hotel Friday morning between 9 a.m. and noon, rather than the typical 4 p.m. weigh-in time, [Dave] Sholler said. There will still be a "weigh-in" show at 5 p.m. where the official weights gathered earlier in the day will be announced."

Rekrul is a newb 

whamm!   Albania. Jun 15 2016 05:08. Posts 11625

rory will have a grand old time eating those wicked kicks with no load-up, he is also almost the same size as rory's which used to be an advantage for rory. if wonderboy can further fine tune his kicking ability into MMA with a couple more wins he'll be unstoppable. his sister is married to carlos machado too, so you know he's got some ground game. i dunno this guy might be the next champ who gets to dominate the WW and even MW someday


Floofy   Canada. Jun 15 2016 05:49. Posts 8708

Btw is it me or the UFC hates wonderboy?

It seems like they always give him the toughest matchups they can, like if theyre trying to protect Lawler or something.

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;( 

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 15 2016 05:56. Posts 34250


  On June 15 2016 04:49 Floofy wrote:
Btw is it me or the UFC hates wonderboy?

It seems like they always give him the toughest matchups they can, like if theyre trying to protect Lawler or something.



They arent clearly pampering as much as they could given his great showmanship, but you could argue that a fight against a high paced pressure fighter like Condit would be much worse for Wonderboy, Rory gives a lot of space and is mostly a striker, it sure is very good but stylistically looks like a good matchup for Wonderboy.

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

soberstone   United States. Jun 15 2016 06:26. Posts 2662


  On June 15 2016 04:49 Floofy wrote:
Btw is it me or the UFC hates wonderboy?

It seems like they always give him the toughest matchups they can, like if theyre trying to protect Lawler or something.



I agree. This is the one matchup in the entire division I don't favor him in besides maybe Condit.

Then again if he runs through Rory then they know to just market the living fuck out of him as he'll probably be pretty unstoppable.


Nazgul    Netherlands. Jun 15 2016 14:46. Posts 7080

Rory is probably my favorite modern age fighter. Previous guys at that level Fedor/GSP. I can't really think of anyone currently in the UFC that I like more.

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

iakim322   United States. Jun 16 2016 00:34. Posts 1335

Listening to Thompson talk details about striking, distance management...manipulating his opponent's hand movements so he could create better counter angles is a little eye opening. Really played out old saying but I imagine Hendricks felt like he was playing checkers in there against a Thompson that was playing chess

Really want to root for Rory because if he loses, it's going to be sad watching pudgy Dana and the UFC play the 'oh we want fighters on the upswing...not downswing of their career' card that they like to play when negotiating with fighters about to hit free agency. But the more I see of Thompson's fights, more I think Rory's face from the Lawler fight is going to have somewhat of a repeat appearance. Apparently Thompson's been training a ton with Weidman to help his TDD as well


Baalim   Mexico. Jun 16 2016 00:34. Posts 34250


  On June 15 2016 13:46 Nazgul wrote:
Rory is probably my favorite modern age fighter. Previous guys at that level Fedor/GSP. I can't really think of anyone currently in the UFC that I like more.



Basically you like smart strategic fighters

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

lucky331   . Jun 16 2016 05:05. Posts 1124


  On June 15 2016 23:34 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



Basically you like smart strategic fighters


that's maybe because he's a smart, strategic SC/BW player.

edit: and a southpaw!

 Last edit: 16/06/2016 05:06

lucky331   . Jun 16 2016 06:47. Posts 1124

rory will have a better chance if he survives the 1st round, unless thompson owns him in the next rounds. but rory is the best fighter thompson is facing, so i doubt he'll dominate the fight beyond the 1st round.

i wanna bet rory on the ML, and thompson 1st round KO/TKO at +400 if a sportsbook has it.


Nazgul    Netherlands. Jun 16 2016 21:57. Posts 7080


  On June 16 2016 04:05 lucky331 wrote:
Show nested quote +



that's maybe because he's a smart, strategic SC/BW player.

edit: and a southpaw!


I honestly like the way they present themselves outside of the fights too.

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

lucky331   . Jun 16 2016 23:29. Posts 1124

is thompson a tough fighter? as in, as tough or as close as lawler-tough?

having second thoughts on rory. he's won easily in most of his fights, but he's lost the toughest fights in his career... all in the last round vs condit, vs lawler 1, vs lawler 2.

one could argue that he's mentally weak.


PuertoRican   United States. Jun 17 2016 00:51. Posts 13051


  On June 16 2016 22:29 lucky331 wrote:
is thompson a tough fighter? as in, as tough or as close as lawler-tough?

having second thoughts on rory. he's won easily in most of his fights, but he's lost the toughest fights in his career... all in the last round vs condit, vs lawler 1, vs lawler 2.

one could argue that he's mentally weak.



"Tough" has multiple meanings.

Can Wonderboy take a shot and survive through adversity? Yes. We've seen him get dropped by Ellenberger and get back up and do his thing. Early in his UFC career, he had a war with Matt Brown and lost a close decision cuz he had no wrestling skills at that point in time.

Being tough like Robbie Lawler means that you take a ton of damage. Wonderboy's style has allowed him to avoid taking a bunch of damage.

Rekrul is a newb 

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 17 2016 01:05. Posts 34250

He hasnt had a rough fight yet afaik, and usually grit isnt the strenght of fighters like him, A Silva, McGregor, Aldo, Pettis etc

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

lucky331   . Jun 17 2016 01:15. Posts 1124

by tough, i mean grit as baal said. i think some grit is needed to win vs rory because rory may be lacking in it. when push comes to shove, rory folded in some of his toughest fights.


iakim322   United States. Jun 17 2016 03:35. Posts 1335

The guy took a pretty insane amount of punishment while also dishing it out almost non stop for 4 full rounds against a beast mode Robbie Lawler before succumbing to a broken nose amidst a broken face. And his grit and toughness is questioned?

Other example was vs an already experienced top fighter in Condit when Rory was still a 20 year old kid basically. And that finish came barely on time. Some ridiculously high standards you got there



lucky331   . Jun 17 2016 04:59. Posts 1124


  On June 17 2016 02:35 iakim322 wrote:
The guy took a pretty insane amount of punishment while also dishing it out almost non stop for 4 full rounds against a beast mode Robbie Lawler before succumbing to a broken nose amidst a broken face. And his grit and toughness is questioned?

Other example was vs an already experienced top fighter in Condit when Rory was still a 20 year old kid basically. And that finish came barely on time. Some ridiculously high standards you got there





hahahaha! don't be butthurt, it's not about that rofl. it's about making a bet and analyzing both fighters. been reading up on both fighters. rory is the toughest opponent thompson ever faced. but then rory could fold if thompson could go all out beast mode on him. that's why i was asking if thompson was "tough" in a sense like robbie lawler is tough.

 Last edit: 17/06/2016 05:00

Floofy   Canada. Jun 17 2016 05:15. Posts 8708

i agree with iamkim

Rory is probably on my top 5 of fighters with the most grit in the UFC
That being said, i think Thompson got some too, as shown in his Matt Brown fight.
There's also a little risk rory might not have as much grits after his last fight.

Bets i'm planning to do:

Thompson
Cote
O conell if odds come back to +160<
letourneau
Maybe beal (need more research)
markos
maybe bagautinov

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(Last edit: 17/06/2016 05:16

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 17 2016 07:33. Posts 13051

Thompson vs MacDonald: The Fight for the Future of Welterweight

http://fightland.vice.com/blog/thomps...-fight-for-the-future-of-welterweight

Rekrul is a newb 

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 17 2016 08:06. Posts 34250

since when does Rory fold under punishment? His fight vs Lawler proves the opposite.

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

lucky331   . Jun 17 2016 08:46. Posts 1124

rory - condit. a tough fight, and condit finished him in the 3rd round. then there's rory - lawler 1, he was ahead the first round and maybe the 2nd round (IMHO), but lost badly on the 3rd. And then this is the worst of all, rory - lawler 2. he was doing fine in this fight then at the 5th round he basically couldn't take anymore punishment and quit after eating a jab from lawler. he touched his nose, voluntarily fell down and turtled and asked the ref to stop the fight.

i know rory is an elite fighter, but after that last fight vs lawler, i don't know. if you wanna be a champ, you must dig deep and give it your all. maybe he just isn't in that class of champs. or maybe he's mentally weak, especially vs the likes of lawler. again nothing against rory. just trying to find more info and would love to listen to more of your opinions about him. thanks.

 Last edit: 17/06/2016 12:02

Stim_Abuser   United States. Jun 17 2016 08:50. Posts 7499

Rory vs Wonderboy is one of those fights where I have a really hard time figuring out the ways I think it will go do. Only thing I really know is leg kicks will be important for Rory.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 17 2016 10:12. Posts 34250

Why ppl keep saying this is the thougher opponent for wonderboy? he just beat Hendricks which on paper should be a more difficult matchup given his superb wrestling.

Im not saying wonderboy has this, all im saying is that before his last fight I would have thought that he had better odds vs Rory than vs Jhonny

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

lucky331   . Jun 17 2016 11:56. Posts 1124

hendricks just looks tough cos he's a wrestler. rory is a better fighter overall, hence he's the tougher opponent.


soberstone   United States. Jun 17 2016 18:30. Posts 2662


  On June 17 2016 09:12 Baalim wrote:
Why ppl keep saying this is the thougher opponent for wonderboy? he just beat Hendricks which on paper should be a more difficult matchup given his superb wrestling.

Im not saying wonderboy has this, all im saying is that before his last fight I would have thought that he had better odds vs Rory than vs Jhonny



The length factor is huge when facing a guy like Wonderboy.

You are right though, on paper, Hendricks should have done much better. He came in with no gameplan and panicked.


Stim_Abuser   United States. Jun 17 2016 19:41. Posts 7499


  On June 17 2016 09:12 Baalim wrote:
Why ppl keep saying this is the thougher opponent for wonderboy? he just beat Hendricks which on paper should be a more difficult matchup given his superb wrestling.

Im not saying wonderboy has this, all im saying is that before his last fight I would have thought that he had better odds vs Rory than vs Jhonny



Well theres a couple things with Johnny. First, he came in crazy light. A dude who's almost always 195+ was like 175. Kinda like how Weidman came in like 15 pounds lighter against Luke. Theres also a possibility we're seeing a not as good post USADA Johnny. I've been very suspicious of him since he refused to do the testing with GSP. Plus the massive difference in reach worked out well in Wonderboys favor.

Also it's hard to just base everything off 1 fight. Hendricks is really the only top 15ish guy Wonderboy has beat so far.

And it's harder to have an easier fight for Wonderboy than the Hendricks one lol.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

ERASA   Germany. Jun 17 2016 19:59. Posts 2440

lucky331 with a solid assessment of Rory Macdonald... wow


Bullshit   Canada. Jun 17 2016 20:26. Posts 738

ya that rory macdonald what a pussy couldnt take a jab and quit mentally weak


soberstone   United States. Jun 17 2016 21:52. Posts 2662

Fedor about to fight Maldanado on Fight Pass


soberstone   United States. Jun 17 2016 22:31. Posts 2662

Wow if anyone just saw the Fedor fight he just got 10-7'd and then came back and won a HIGHLY questionable decision


Nazgul    Netherlands. Jun 17 2016 23:36. Posts 7080

https://streamable.com/3xwa

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

northsails   Bulgaria. Jun 17 2016 23:36. Posts 410

I am just hoping Fedor retires and never comes in the UFC. He is going to get demolished and it will be hard to watch.


northsails   Bulgaria. Jun 18 2016 00:25. Posts 410


  On June 17 2016 07:46 lucky331 wrote:
rory - condit. a tough fight, and condit finished him in the 3rd round. then there's rory - lawler 1, he was ahead the first round and maybe the 2nd round (IMHO), but lost badly on the 3rd. And then this is the worst of all, rory - lawler 2. he was doing fine in this fight then at the 5th round he basically couldn't take anymore punishment and quit after eating a jab from lawler. he touched his nose, voluntarily fell down and turtled and asked the ref to stop the fight.

i know rory is an elite fighter, but after that last fight vs lawler, i don't know. if you wanna be a champ, you must dig deep and give it your all. maybe he just isn't in that class of champs. or maybe he's mentally weak, especially vs the likes of lawler. again nothing against rory. just trying to find more info and would love to listen to more of your opinions about him. thanks.



LOL. Epic post.


Baalim   Mexico. Jun 18 2016 00:29. Posts 34250


  On June 17 2016 21:31 soberstone wrote:
Wow if anyone just saw the Fedor fight he just got 10-7'd and then came back and won a HIGHLY questionable decision



no way it was 10-7 wtf, actually I wouldnt even give it a 10-8 given the fact that feddor was pummeling Maldonado before he clipped him and won the other 2 rounds no question.

Amazing how fedor recovered from that, without that single punch this fight would have looked like a one sided rape I wouldnt jump to conclusions watching that, obv Fedor is past prime but I think ppl are giving him too little credit for being nearly KOd from a punch

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 18 2016 00:31. Posts 34250


  On June 17 2016 22:36 northsails wrote:
I am just hoping Fedor retires and never comes in the UFC. He is going to get demolished and it will be hard to watch.



What? fuck no, I wanna watch his fights, he is my favourite fighter and sure I would like him to still be on god mode he is obviously past his prime and nowhere what he was, but its still very fun to spectate.

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 18 2016 00:35. Posts 34250



Holy fuck.... talking about grit, this was one of the craziest come backs Ive seen

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

Nazgul    Netherlands. Jun 18 2016 00:36. Posts 7080

I would still like to see him in the UFC because I feel it should be possible to separate his legacy from his current fights. However taking into account his reputation with a larger audience and how that reputation is connected with every fight he takes on even if he is far past his prime; I'm not sure I want to see him anymore at all.

Definitely feel that round was a 10-8 though. The only time I recall a 10-7 was Maynard vs Edgar.

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmoLast edit: 18/06/2016 00:41

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 18 2016 00:42. Posts 34250

Fuck was idiots think of him and fuck legacies, I love watching fight, its exciting, its excruciating when he is losing etc, few fighters make me watch a fight with so much attention and emotion than Fedor, that is what ultimately matters

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

ERASA   Germany. Jun 18 2016 00:45. Posts 2440

Maybe give him a safe fight, where nothing can really happen... schaub comes to mind :D


Floofy   Canada. Jun 18 2016 00:48. Posts 8708


  On June 17 2016 23:31 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



What? fuck no, I wanna watch his fights, he is my favourite fighter and sure I would like him to still be on god mode he is obviously past his prime and nowhere what he was, but its still very fun to spectate.


I would also love to see him in the UFC, but i kinda hope the UFC manages to find good fights for him.
Like i could see a rematch with BigFoot being interesting.
He would get killed by the top 5.

Also that fight was really strange after R1. Its like Maldonaldo wanted to show us in R1 that he can easily PWN fedor, but he wanted to lose the fight.
And the commentator was LOL.

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;( 

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 18 2016 00:58. Posts 34250

Maldonado simply got tired, that was a pretty crazy paced 1st round

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 18 2016 01:15. Posts 13051

Regarding Fedor vs. Maldonado:

Rekrul is a newb 

lucky331   . Jun 18 2016 01:40. Posts 1124


  On June 17 2016 19:26 Bullshit wrote:
ya that rory macdonald what a pussy couldnt take a jab and quit mentally weak



yeah sorry. i didn't word that out right.. i meant maybe isn't as tough mentally.


soberstone   United States. Jun 18 2016 02:03. Posts 2662

Decided to lay down a couple Hail Mary's for this event:

MacDonald + Cerrone + Mercier + Letournaeu + Jotko + Lybarger + Soto = $15 to win $1049.69

MacDonald/Thompson o 2.5 + Cerrone + Mercier + Letournaeu + Lybarger + Soto = $10 to win $208.70

I think MacDonald will win a niptuck decision where he takes the later rounds clearly and the early rounds are closer, but with hometown it should be enough.

Cerrone should outclass Cote who happens to look smaller than normal BTW. Not sure why odds are quite so close, Cerrone is a couple tiers above Cote and it's not a bad matchup stylistically.

Mercier ragdolls the smaller guy.

Letournaeu underrated, JoJo overrated. Striking affair with little chance of anything random happening.

Lybarger has better striking and cardio so unless she winds up on the bottom early I think the value is there as a dog.

Soto could kill me but he's a better fighter than Beal, just has chin issues. Should have gotten the decision in his last fight against a better fighter in Tanaka. Also Beal gasses.


Nazgul    Netherlands. Jun 18 2016 02:06. Posts 7080

Good point, I just realized Rory vs Thompson is five rounds, wondering if I should bet Rory now. I feel Thompson's cardio is always suspect.

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 18 2016 02:26. Posts 13051





Rory MacDonald (170.5) vs. Stephen Thompson (170.5)
Donald Cerrone (171) vs. Patrick Cote (170)
Steve Bosse (205) vs. Sean O’Connell (205)
Olivier Aubin-Mercier (155) vs. Thibault Gouti (156)
Joanne Calderwood (125.5) vs. Valerie Letourneau (125.5)
Jason Saggo (155) vs. Leandro Silva (155.5)
Misha Cirkunov (205.5) vs. Ion Cutelaba (202.5)
Krzysztof Jotko (184.5) vs. Tamdan McCrory (185)
Chris Beal (134) vs. Joe Soto (135)
Sam Alvey (185.5) vs. Elias Theodorou (186)
Jocelyn Jones-Lybarger (115) vs. Randa Markos (117.5)*
Colby Covington (170) vs. Jonathan Meunier (170.5)
Ali Bagautinov (125.5) vs. Geane Herrera (125)

* – Missed weight; forfeits 20 percent of purse to Jones-Lybarger

Rekrul is a newb 

whamm!   Albania. Jun 18 2016 04:43. Posts 11625

nah rory's going to get ktfo here, that last war vs Lawler surely gave him some delicious head trauma. ive seen it happen so many times after a fighter loses like that a part of his chin goes with him. wonderboy is peaking now and looks very relaxed with nothing to prove yet, the guy is also a champion kickboxer so he is no slouch in big fights (or has bad nerves). his only loss was vs mat brown and even in that fight he was kicking mat brown's ass the whole fight

 Last edit: 18/06/2016 04:44

soberstone   United States. Jun 18 2016 06:32. Posts 2662


  On June 18 2016 03:43 whamm! wrote:
nah rory's going to get ktfo here, that last war vs Lawler surely gave him some delicious head trauma. ive seen it happen so many times after a fighter loses like that a part of his chin goes with him. wonderboy is peaking now and looks very relaxed with nothing to prove yet, the guy is also a champion kickboxer so he is no slouch in big fights (or has bad nerves). his only loss was vs mat brown and even in that fight he was kicking mat brown's ass the whole fight



You may be right about Rory's chin (doubt it since he didn't actually get wobbled once in the fight) but...

no Matt Brown actually kicked Thompson's ass, Thompson had his moments but he learned a valuable lesson.


northsails   Bulgaria. Jun 18 2016 08:03. Posts 410


  On June 17 2016 23:31 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



What? fuck no, I wanna watch his fights, he is my favourite fighter and sure I would like him to still be on god mode he is obviously past his prime and nowhere what he was, but its still very fun to spectate.


I am a huge Fedor fan also and that is the reason I don't want to see him fight in the UFC. He won't be able to compete with any of the top fighters there. His prime was like over 10 years ago, the signs of his decline were clear even in his Affiction/Strikeforce days.

Also the fight game has evolved a lot during that stretch and Fedor is basically a shell of himself. Even in his prime He would of have had trouble competing against the top guys in LHW and HW from today, but now He is just going to get pummeled.

Don't think it will be very exciting watching him getting layed out by Roy Nelson out cold or something similar.


whamm!   Albania. Jun 18 2016 08:12. Posts 11625

Yeah I think experience was a big factor in their first fight and Matt Brown was really tricky but he was getting lit up on the feet

Matt Brown even says he got knocked out twice, he just got lucky with the scrambles as with all the chaos in MMA randomness

If they did a rematch now I doubt Matt Brown would last 2 rounds

With Fedor it seems he just phones it in each time he fights. Legkick then overhand right then feints here and there wiggling his fist. Top 5 HW and LHW would murder him, even MW guys like rockhold, weidman, romero, jacare would beat his ass with how he fights nowadays

 Last edit: 18/06/2016 08:18

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 18 2016 17:41. Posts 13051

Edit in channels.

Main card: FS1
Prelim card: FS2
Early prelims: Fight Pass

I'm not sure if FS2 has been added to most cable deals, or if it's still unavailable for most people.

Rekrul is a newb 

jvilla777   Australia. Jun 18 2016 19:51. Posts 1348

Just saw the Fedor fight. Dude got fd up the fight should have been stopped multiple times in the first.

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 18 2016 23:43. Posts 13051

Fight Pass prelims are about to start.

Value is on Herrera over Ali B.

Rekrul is a newb 

soberstone   United States. Jun 18 2016 23:54. Posts 2662


  On June 18 2016 22:43 PuertoRican wrote:
Fight Pass prelims are about to start.

Value is on Herrera over Ali B.



Agree. Herrera has the cardio and submission edge.

Ali has the power and experience.

Should be a good little scrap.


soberstone   United States. Jun 19 2016 00:14. Posts 2662

Wow great fight.

Herrera should have pressed harder earlier in the 3rd. Bagautinov had nothing left.


Stim_Abuser   United States. Jun 19 2016 00:15. Posts 7499

Damn almost had the comeback Kimura. Bad move by Geane trying to go knee on belly, though I couldn't tell if that was because Ali ababwa bridged?

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

soberstone   United States. Jun 19 2016 00:15. Posts 2662

Also that's the deepest Kimura I've ever seen anyone get out of


soberstone   United States. Jun 19 2016 00:18. Posts 2662


  On June 18 2016 23:15 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Damn almost had the comeback Kimura. Bad move by Geane trying to go knee on belly, though I couldn't tell if that was because Ali ababwa bridged?



I think it was a combo of Ali bucking at the right time and Geane's torking his own body out of position.

He def didn't go belly down on purpose.

 Last edit: 19/06/2016 00:20

soberstone   United States. Jun 19 2016 00:38. Posts 2662

So Covington just said he'd show Damien Maia what a real grappler was.

Laugh.


ERASA   Germany. Jun 19 2016 00:41. Posts 2440

Maia would strangle him first and invite him to one of his seminars the next day


soberstone   United States. Jun 19 2016 01:07. Posts 2662

Man if Lybarger could have done ANYTHING she would have won.

So bad. Markos is insta-fade vs anyone even halfway decent. She's awful.


Stim_Abuser   United States. Jun 19 2016 01:30. Posts 7499

What a garbage and boring fight. Ugh, so frustrating. Elias running and throwing like zero punches and just light kicks, Alvey doing absolutely nothing but plodding after him.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

soberstone   United States. Jun 19 2016 01:31. Posts 2662


  On June 19 2016 00:30 Stim_Abuser wrote:
What a garbage and boring fight. Ugh, so frustrating. Elias running and throwing like zero punches and just light kicks, Alvey doing absolutely nothing but plodding after him.



Gayest FOTY.

Elias is such a pussy.

Alvey so 1-dimensional.

Terrible match-making.


soberstone   United States. Jun 19 2016 01:58. Posts 2662

Nice win for Soto.

Beal improved but he has some of the worst cardio in MMA considering he's FW/BW.


PuertoRican   United States. Jun 19 2016 02:08. Posts 13051

Had to go to a meeting. Missed the last few fights. Trying to find a pizza place to watch the FS2 fights.

Rekrul is a newb 

soberstone   United States. Jun 19 2016 02:09. Posts 2662

OOOOOHHHHH McCrory just got KTFO


ERASA   Germany. Jun 19 2016 02:09. Posts 2440

Nasty


soberstone   United States. Jun 19 2016 02:43. Posts 2662

Cirkunov answering a lot of questions for me in this fight.

Good chin, striking looks much improved.

Gonna be a force for anyone at 205 outside out of the top 5., I already have him right up there with the likes of OSP.


PuertoRican   United States. Jun 19 2016 02:44. Posts 13051

Cirkunov!

Rekrul is a newb 

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 19 2016 03:49. Posts 13051

JoJo with a spinning back fist out of nowhere.

Rekrul is a newb 

Sliggy   Australia. Jun 19 2016 04:02. Posts 742

What the fuck Valerie? Second fight in a row she literally turns her back and walks off when she's hurt.

sup 

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 19 2016 04:04. Posts 13051

Best performance of JoJo's career.

Rekrul is a newb 

Sliggy   Australia. Jun 19 2016 04:04. Posts 742

Props to Calderwood though.

sup 

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 19 2016 04:35. Posts 13051

Easy for Mercier once he got it on the ground, but he was getting tagged on the feet in Round 1.

Rekrul is a newb 

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 19 2016 04:36. Posts 34250


  On June 19 2016 03:02 Sliggy wrote:
What the fuck Valerie? Second fight in a row she literally turns her back and walks off when she's hurt.



yeah thats such a weird thing to do, most people crawl into a ball, turning away like that is way more dangerous.

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 19 2016 04:38. Posts 13051

Mercier r3 +900
jojo RD 3: +2925
covington RD 3: +1100
soto RD 3 +1825
jotko RD 1 +2050
cirkunov RD 3 +950

these have all happened tonight.

Rekrul is a newb 

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 19 2016 05:11. Posts 34250

man that was an entertaining fight

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

Sliggy   Australia. Jun 19 2016 05:12. Posts 742

Amazing. Wish they could both win.

sup 

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 19 2016 05:12. Posts 13051

Bosse vs. OC was sick!

Rekrul is a newb 

Sliggy   Australia. Jun 19 2016 05:13. Posts 742


  On June 19 2016 03:36 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



yeah thats such a weird thing to do, most people crawl into a ball, turning away like that is way more dangerous.


She just strolls off like they're sparring and she wants to take a time out.

sup 

Sliggy   Australia. Jun 19 2016 05:14. Posts 742

Fucking judges.

sup 

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 19 2016 05:35. Posts 34250


  On June 19 2016 04:13 Sliggy wrote:
Show nested quote +



She just strolls off like they're sparring and she wants to take a time out.



And worse of all is that the referee doesnt stop it... that should be an instant stoppage

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

whamm!   Albania. Jun 19 2016 05:42. Posts 11625

wow great fights today eh
bosse vs that white guy was sick fun

nice that cerrone is mixing takedowns with his high level striking, makes him very very dangerous now
wow didn't realize this was at WW, those weight cuts seemed to limit him perhaps because this performance was really crisp as fuck

 Last edit: 19/06/2016 05:46

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 19 2016 05:45. Posts 13051

Easy win for Cerrone.

I expected more from Cote.

Rekrul is a newb 

Sliggy   Australia. Jun 19 2016 05:45. Posts 742

Cerrone looked phenomenal. Wow.

sup 

[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Jun 19 2016 05:46. Posts 1585

holy shit cowboy looked like he was another level

[GiTM]- GoSu in the Making 

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 19 2016 05:56. Posts 34250

god damn... the last 2 fights have been amazing... and this one is so promising, way above the normal fight night showmanship so far

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

whamm!   Albania. Jun 19 2016 05:59. Posts 11625

damn cerrone was great there.
so excited for this main event!


flounder44   United States. Jun 19 2016 06:30. Posts 916

rory dont look the same


PuertoRican   United States. Jun 19 2016 06:30. Posts 13051

Rory couldn't impose his will.

Wonderboy 50-45, imo.

Rekrul is a newb 

soberstone   United States. Jun 19 2016 06:32. Posts 2662

Poor Rory. Just couldn't figure it out and his nose is permanently fucked.

Wonderboy KO's Lawler IMO.

The Hendricks fight didn't sell me completely because Hendricks was such a retard, but Rory pretty much tried everything, stayed composed, just couldn't get inside.

I hope he stays in the UFC.


Baalim   Mexico. Jun 19 2016 06:33. Posts 34250

good cardio and fought smart (probably more kicks would have been even better) but I think Wonderboy will be the next champ and will have a looooong reign.


BTW one judge scored it 48-47 what in the fuck?

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

Montrachet   Canada. Jun 19 2016 06:37. Posts 120

First two rounds were kinda tricky to judge without the stats, which could explain the 48-47. But overall I think Wonderboy can easily makes you look stupid. He is a tricky dude.


Floofy   Canada. Jun 19 2016 06:47. Posts 8708


  On June 19 2016 05:30 flounder44 wrote:
rory dont look the same



I don't think Rory got worse.

I think Thompson is just on another level.
Rory did a lot better than Hendricks at least.

I honnestly don't see what Lawler will be able to do against Thompson.

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(Last edit: 19/06/2016 06:48

northsails   Bulgaria. Jun 19 2016 07:01. Posts 410

Wonderboy is phenomenal. Best striker ever in MMA, imo. Really impressed how he shut down Rory in every aspect of the game.

Lawler with nothing more than a punching chance against him. I hope we get a good U 1.5 line.


whamm!   Albania. Jun 19 2016 07:01. Posts 11625

thompson's in for a war so im really so much more excited now in the WW. Lawler has the champion's gene and really, really goes after guys with his granite chin just to get to them. so close if they fight but I think Lawler CAN get him, not saying he will. also lawlers fight IQ is sooooo underated, the guy knows how to hit you even if you play the length game


Baalim   Mexico. Jun 19 2016 07:21. Posts 34250

I think Wonderboy will KO lawler... Lawler is good at rolling and slipping punches but is not good at managing distance, he simply walks into close range slipping and eating punches so he will be mauled by Wonderboy.

However there was a big flaw in Thompson in this fight, when Rory started walking him in the fifth with his left arm out Thompson didnt know what to do and actually got him to brawl a bit, that would be suicide vs Lawler and its exactly the kind of shit Lawler would try and much earlier than Rory did.

He should have just leg kicked Rory full force when he did that and get out of the way.

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro OnlineLast edit: 19/06/2016 07:22

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 19 2016 08:00. Posts 13051

Rekrul is a newb 

lucky331   . Jun 19 2016 08:40. Posts 1124


  On June 19 2016 06:21 Baalim wrote:
I think Wonderboy will KO lawler... Lawler is good at rolling and slipping punches but is not good at managing distance, he simply walks into close range slipping and eating punches so he will be mauled by Wonderboy.

However there was a big flaw in Thompson in this fight, when Rory started walking him in the fifth with his left arm out Thompson didnt know what to do and actually got him to brawl a bit, that would be suicide vs Lawler and its exactly the kind of shit Lawler would try and much earlier than Rory did.

He should have just leg kicked Rory full force when he did that and get out of the way.



yes. i would love to see that.


whamm!   Albania. Jun 19 2016 10:29. Posts 11625

Lawler vs Wonderboy would be a beast. Rory just had so much in his head trying to figure shit out it just looked like he was just as confused as Hendricks was. Lawler will not make that mistake and will just keep coming and coming until he can force a brawl, but unlike Rory has a spirit like no other in the UFC. That being said personally I think Wonderboy WILL be the next champ too, I just can't count Lawler out still.

 Last edit: 19/06/2016 10:40

cariadon   Estonia. Jun 19 2016 11:30. Posts 4019

Lawlers legacy is built on being kicked and punched to no end.. Wonderboy has more venom in his shots than Condit so Lawler better have a rock for a head in their fight.


 



Poker Streams

















Copyright © 2024. LiquidPoker.net All Rights Reserved
Contact Advertise Sitemap