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Floofy   Canada. Apr 24 2015 03:54. Posts 8708

My bets:

Horiguchi +800: I expect +800 odds. at those odds, i think hes worth it. Taller, younger, more reach. Anything can happen in mma.

Quinton -300: this one is a bit risky but i think he would really need to be a really poor version of his older self to lose to maldonaldo. -300 works for me.

Bisping -140: I think hes the better fighter, and we can get him for very decent odds. Only fear is take downs, but i think he will work exaclty on that and make CB pay.

Campbell +155: Dude is younger, taller, more range, exaclty the kind of guy
Makdessi has trouble with. And hes comming down from welterweight.

Cote -200: Good odds imo, hes the much better fighter. riggs pretty much koed himself in his last fight. also 5 inch reach advantage and he's like the most known Montreal fighter after GSP, home will be on his side big time.

Davis +180: Yes she lost twice to Kaufman, but that was a while ago. In their recent matches, i think they are close in skill. So i will take the big underdog.

Barberena +340: I think this guy is underrated, he seems good. With those odds, ill take it. Hes also younger/taller dude.

Michaud +330: I think he has a good style for this fight, and i really like the odds.

Rakocy +150: Her record might be horrible, but i think shes the better fighter. im worried about home advantage of letourneau and age difference thought... maybe i'll change my mind.

Daly +240: I'm not sure why shes such a big underdog, she seems pretty good.

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(Last edit: 24/04/2015 04:18

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 24 2015 04:15. Posts 13047


  On April 24 2015 02:54 Floofy wrote:
My picks:

Horiguchi +800: I expect +800 odds. at those odds, i think hes worth it. Taller, younger, more reach. Anything can happen in mma.

Quinton -300: this one is a bit risky but i think he would really need to be a really poor version of his older self to lose to maldonaldo. -300 works for me.

Bisping -140: I think hes the better fighter, and we can get him for very decent odds. Only fear is take downs, but i think he will work exaclty on that and make CB pay.

Campbell +155: Dude is younger, taller, more range, exaclty the kind of guy
Makdessi has trouble with. And hes comming down from welterweight.

Cote -200: Good odds imo, hes the much better fighter. riggs pretty much koed himself in his last fight. also 5 inch reach advantage

Davis +180: Yes she lost twice to Kaufman, but that was a while ago. In their recent matches, i think they are close in skill. So i will take the big underdog.

Barberena +340: I think this guy is underrated, he seems good. With those odds, ill take it. Hes also younger/taller dude.

Michaud +330: I think he has a good style for this fight, and i really like the odds.

Rakocy +150: Her record might be horrible, but i think shes the better fighter. im worried about home advantage of letourneau and age difference thought... maybe i'll change my mind.

Daly +240: I'm not sure why shes such a big underdog, she seems pretty good.



1. Are these your picks, or your bets? The way you listed them, it looks like bets.

For example, I'm pretty sure you're picking Demetrious Johnson to win, but at +800, you'll make a bet on Horiguchi because he's "taller, younger, more reach. Anything can happen in mma."

2. Davis' striking is still the same as it was the last time she fought Kaufman. She'll stand right in front of Kaufman and trade. The thing that worries me about Davis is that she isn't improving much, and while Ronda Rousey and Sarah Kaufman are different fighters, the quickness at which Davis was TKO`ed when Ronda got into side mount was kinda scary. Kaufman has more punching power than Rousey, Davis can't hurt Kaufman on the feet, and Kaufman has already TKO`ed Davis before. If I were to bet this fight, it'd be favorite or pass.

3. Rakoczy's style for MMA is horrible, and no, she is not the better fighter. I won't list the reasons why, as it's a waste of time listing something that's so obvious. I think the real interesting things to look at is that both women are dropping from 135 to 115 for this fight, and the fact that Rakoczy is 38 years old. Also, in the Pat Mayo breakdown video that I've been sending you, the MMA analyst said he recently saw Rakoczy getting beat up in training, and that she didn't look good at all. She's still not a full-time fighter, whereas Letourneau is a full-time fighter who trains out of American Top Team in Miami with many of the best female MMA fighters inside and outside of the UFC.

Rekrul is a newb 

Floofy   Canada. Apr 24 2015 04:16. Posts 8708

Yea sorry, i meant bets.

i'm mostly reconsidering my bet on:

Davis: I'm worried she might have had a lot of damage from her fight with ronda.

Michaud: Aubin-Mercier is really good and has home advantage, i'm not sure if he truly has a chance.

Taleb: He's fairly costly, and i could definetly see an upset happen. Clement has KO power for sure.

And now on Rakoczy after reading you...

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(Last edit: 24/04/2015 04:19

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 24 2015 04:49. Posts 13047

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 24 2015 09:24. Posts 13047

Rekrul is a newb 

alejandicto   . Apr 24 2015 15:24. Posts 865

I am betting on Demetrious ITD and Bisping by decision


soberstone   United States. Apr 24 2015 20:31. Posts 2662


  On April 24 2015 03:16 Floofy wrote:
Yea sorry, i meant bets.

i'm mostly reconsidering my bet on:

Davis: I'm worried she might have had a lot of damage from her fight with ronda.

Michaud: Aubin-Mercier is really good and has home advantage, i'm not sure if he truly has a chance.

Taleb: He's fairly costly, and i could definetly see an upset happen. Clement has KO power for sure.

And now on Rakoczy after reading you...



I'd advise you to reconsider on your Barbarena bet. He's not really good, and Laprise is possibly the best Canadian blue-chipper I know of.

I got Laprise, Cote, and Mercier at much better odds than they are at now, and feel amazing about it. Best I've felt about a 3 favorite parlay in quite a while.

The Rakoczy thing I have no clue on so I'll take Rican's word on it and stay away, I was feeling a bet on her since she did make the TUF finale and is dropping to 115 and I heard an interview that sounded encouraging, but I haven't actually watched anything besides her getting tooled by Pena.


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 24 2015 20:42. Posts 13047

Rekrul is a newb 

Minsk   United States. Apr 24 2015 22:15. Posts 1558

I have

Horoguchi ML / U4.5
Maldonado ML
Bisping O2.5
Cote ML


soberstone   United States. Apr 25 2015 01:00. Posts 2662

My bets so far


UFC 186 4/21/2015 4/25/2015 Kaufman + Laprise + Mercier + Markos + Cote + Almeida + Makessi PL $20.00 +1,020
UFC 186 4/21/2015 4/25/2015 Cote + Laprise + Markos PL $80.00 +195
UFC 186 4/24/2015 4/25/2015 Clements > Taleb SU $20.00 +210
UFC 186 4/24/2015 4/25/2015 Kaufman + Markos PL $40.00 +205
UFC 186 4/21/2015 4/25/2015 Almeida + Cote + Kaufman + Laprise + Mercier + Markos PL $40.00 +505
UFC 186 4/24/2015 4/25/2015 Almeida via TKO / KO / DQ PROP $20.00 +100
UFC 186 4/24/2015 4/25/2015 Maldanado > Jackson SU $20.00 +230

 Last edit: 25/04/2015 01:07

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 25 2015 04:24. Posts 13047


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alejandicto   . Apr 25 2015 07:45. Posts 865

After seing Thomas Almeida past fights I decided also betting on him by KO -105


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 25 2015 08:33. Posts 13047


Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 25/04/2015 08:35

Nazgul    Netherlands. Apr 25 2015 17:08. Posts 7080

Anyone like Rampage at -240?

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 25 2015 19:27. Posts 13047


  On April 25 2015 16:08 Nazgul wrote:
Anyone like Rampage at -240?



Yes, but his line keeps dropping, so I'd wait.

Rekrul is a newb 

northsails   Bulgaria. Apr 25 2015 19:33. Posts 410

I like Rampage as well at this odds.

How much more do you think his line will drop PuertoRican?


Nazgul    Netherlands. Apr 25 2015 20:19. Posts 7080

I have an older bet of $370 on Bisping at -185. Considering the line is -145 I would recommend a bet. I think Bisping is going to dominate Dollaway pretty hard. Also just put a $330 bet on Jackson at -220. I had like 3k on Miocic when he fought Maldonado. I know he's a HW but Maldonado just isn't very good Jackson should be able to beat him handily.

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

CamilaPunt   Brasil. Apr 25 2015 20:28. Posts 2422

^surprised so many here have taken maldonado he is a brawling boxer a bit mentally challenged from all the punches to the head rampage should win this imo

 Last edit: 25/04/2015 20:33

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 25 2015 20:38. Posts 13047


  On April 25 2015 18:33 northsails wrote:
I like Rampage as well at this odds.

How much more do you think his line will drop PuertoRican?



Hard to say. Rampage was at -230 one hour ago on 5dimes, now he's at -210. If I used 5dimes, I'd place a bet on him at -210, and then bet him again if he dropped to -185 or better.

Whether Rampage wins by KO/TKO or Decision, I see him winning this fight. He isn't known for his wrestling these days, but he does have good enough wrestling to get Maldonado to the mat if he feels he can't get a 1st round KO, especially since Maldonado has notoriously bad TDD.

People were ready to back Rampage all the way when this fight was first announced, but now that he was pulled and then put back on the card, people assume he stayed in his house and watched TV while eating McDonald's. Yeah, the fight is at a 215-pound catchweight, but fighting at a catchweight is standard when you take a fight on less than 1 weeks notice.

Timeline of Rampage vs. Maldonado:

- December 20, 2014: UFC announced Rampage's return to the UFC. Rampage obviously knew who he'd be fighting in December because Fabio Maldonado went to the media and called him out on December 26, 2014.

- April 7, 2015: Rampage is pulled from the UFC 186 card.

- April 21, 2015: Rampage is put back on the card.

- April 25, 2015: Rampage vs. Maldonado @ 215 pounds instead of 205.

As a bettor, Rampage was in a training camp long enough for him to be prepared for this fight, and he was removed and then put back on the same card within the same month, so I don't see this as a bad thing. If you're betting on Maldonado because you think Rampage is mentally weak right now, then I'd say you're reaching.

Rekrul is a newb 

soberstone   United States. Apr 25 2015 20:41. Posts 2662



Didn't realize this was the guy Makdessi is fighting. I beat the line movement on every single bet except the parlay that has Makdessi in it. Now I know why. Hadddddukkken

 Last edit: 25/04/2015 20:42

 
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