Daut   United States. Apr 14 2015 20:20. Posts 8955
i rarely have strong opinions these days, but i think rockhold should be a large favorite over machida. too big, active, well rounded for a passive counterstriker like machida to win 3 rounds. this is not like the mousasi fight where machida is actually the more active striker. think machida's only chance is to catch him which he could obviously do cause of his timing, but think its low percentage
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On April 14 2015 19:20 Daut wrote:
i rarely have strong opinions these days, but i think rockhold should be a large favorite over machida. too big, active, well rounded for a passive counterstriker like machida to win 3 rounds. this is not like the mousasi fight where machida is actually the more active striker. think machida's only chance is to catch him which he could obviously do cause of his timing, but think its low percentage
agreed
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soberstone   United States. Apr 15 2015 01:28. Posts 2662
It's not a given to me that Rockhold will be able to put the pace and pressure on Machida the way Weidman did without running into something big but I guess it's pretty likely given his build and athleticism. But if it's like close through 2-3 rds and he gets over anxious/frustrated and KO'd, wouldn't shock me in the least.
I do think it plays really well for Rockhold that Romero fell off because he doesn't have the pressure to put on a show-stopping performance in order to get the title shot because it's sort of hard to look really good AND put on exciting performance against Lyoto. Only Weidman and Bones have done it, and both ate some HARD shots that may have put Rockhold out. His chin hasn't exactly been tested except when Belfort obliterated him.
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Minsk   United States. Apr 15 2015 18:53. Posts 1558
I don't think Machida will knock him out, but if he can't defend himself against Machida's attacks speedwise, which is possible, its a problem.
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soberstone   United States. Apr 16 2015 04:02. Posts 2662
Rockhold line getting wider but sooner than expected.
I heard an interview today with Brian Stann noting how in his opinion it plays to Luke's advantage big time that they are both southpaws and that takes away Lyoto's most dangerous and consistent offensive weapon - the left body and headkicks. I hadn't even considered that angle of it so I'm leaning Rockhold's a bit more now myself.
On April 16 2015 03:02 soberstone wrote:
Rockhold line getting wider but sooner than expected.
I heard an interview today with Brian Stann noting how in his opinion it plays to Luke's advantage big time that they are both southpaws and that takes away Lyoto's most dangerous and consistent offensive weapon - the left body and headkicks. I hadn't even considered that angle of it so I'm leaning Rockhold's a bit more now myself.
I didnt realize that Rockhold was a southpaw... but yeah Machidas best weapon is his left power kick and his straight left, and both of them are very diminished against a southpaw, but it brings to the table the outside legkicks, how heavy is Rockhold on his front foot?
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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 16 2015 04:47. Posts 13047
On April 16 2015 03:02 soberstone wrote:
Rockhold line getting wider but sooner than expected.
I heard an interview today with Brian Stann noting how in his opinion it plays to Luke's advantage big time that they are both southpaws and that takes away Lyoto's most dangerous and consistent offensive weapon - the left body and headkicks. I hadn't even considered that angle of it so I'm leaning Rockhold's a bit more now myself.
I didnt realize that Rockhold was a southpaw... but yeah Machidas best weapon is his right power kick and his straight left, and both of them are very diminished against a southpaw, but it brings to the table the outside legkicks, how heavy is Rockhold on his front foot?
Hard to describe. But if I had to, I'd say he isn't light, and he isn't heavy, but maybe medium weight on his front leg. In General, Rockhold is light on his feet and has good movement, which allows him to avoid most dangerous spots, not counting Vitor's spinning testosterone kick. Rockhold usually relies on movement and technique in his strikes, which means he doesn't put a ton of power behind his punches/kicks, but even then his strikes have some decent power behind them.
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Apr 17 2015 01:45. Posts 7499
On April 14 2015 19:20 Daut wrote:
i rarely have strong opinions these days, but i think rockhold should be a large favorite over machida. too big, active, well rounded for a passive counterstriker like machida to win 3 rounds. this is not like the mousasi fight where machida is actually the more active striker. think machida's only chance is to catch him which he could obviously do cause of his timing, but think its low percentage
I kind agree with this, but I also think you gotta adjust how we'll each has looked recently based off competition. For the most part, Machida has been facing top 5 guys with a few exceptions for a long time. And aside from Vitor who kicked his head off, Rockhold has been facing fringe top 10 guys. So naturally, Rockhold is going to look a lot better.
But yea I think the volume of strikes here is the biggest difference. And the fact that Rockhold is great at kicks. Machida is great at avoiding punches, but not great at avoiding kicks. Which makes me favor Rockhold too.
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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 17 2015 03:05. Posts 13047
flounder44   United States. Apr 17 2015 08:00. Posts 916
people who are counting machida out are retarded. He's fought weidman, rampage, jones, the best of the best. Rockhold has a lot to prove in the ufc, hes like mcgregor without the fame.
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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 17 2015 09:40. Posts 13047
On April 17 2015 07:00 flounder44 wrote:
people who are counting machida out are retarded. He's fought weidman, rampage, jones, the best of the best. Rockhold has a lot to prove in the ufc, he's like mcgregor without the fame.
Not really.
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