UFC FN 58: Machida vs. Dollaway

Date: Saturday, December 20th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 18:00 LP.net / 4pm PST / 7pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 19:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (Fox Sports 1): 21:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://www.vipbox.tv (All MMA events are listed under the UFC button. Press the UFC button and you'll see the event in the list.)





Main Card (Fox Sports 1)

Lyoto Machida (21-5) vs. C.B. Dollaway (15-5) (Middleweight)
Renan Barao (32-2) vs. Mitch Gagnon (12-2) (Bantamweight)
Antonio Carlos Junior (4-0) vs. Patrick Cummins (6-1) (Light Heavyweight)
Elias Silverio (11-0) vs. Rashid Magomedov (17-1) (Lightweight)
Erick Silva (16-5) vs. Mike Rhodes (6-3) (Welterweight)
Daniel Sarafian (8-5) vs. Antonio dos Santos Jr. (6-1) (Middleweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Marcos Rogerio de Lima (12-2-1) vs. Igor Pokrajac (25-11) (Light Heavyweight)
Tom Niinimaki (21-7-1) vs. Renato Carneiro (8-0-1) (Featherweight)
Darren Elkins (18-4) vs. Hacran Dias (21-3-1) (Featherweight)
Leandro Issa (12-4) vs. Yuta Sasaki (18-1-2) (Bantamweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Marcio Alexandre (12-1) vs. Tim Means (21-6-1) (Welterweight)
Vitor Miranda (9-4) vs. Jake Collier (8-1) (Middleweight)

Other

- Tom Niinimäki was expected to face Rony Jason at the event. However, Jason pulled out of the bout on December 10 and was replaced by promotional newcomer Renato Carneiro.
- Dan Miller was expected to face Daniel Sarafian at the event. However, Miller pulled out of the bout on December 11 and was replaced by promotional newcomer Antonio dos Santos Jr.

First impression of the match-ups:

• Machida > Dollaway
• Barao > Gagnon
• Cummins > Junior
• Silverio > Magomedov
• Silva > Rhodes
• Sarafian vs. Santos (dunno)
• Lima vs. PokerJack (dunno)
• Carneiro > Niinimaki (Carneiro is fighting on short notice, but Niinimaki hasn't looked good in his 3 UFC fights. He used wrestling to LnP on Rani Yahya to get a decision win, and then lost his next 2 fights in a row via submission. Carneiro is a submission fighter.)
• Elkins vs. Dias (dunno. Gun to the head, I'd go with Elkins.)
• Sasaki > Issa
• Means > Alexandre
• Miranda vs. Collier (dunno)

Dolloway was pretty good, but I just watched Ryan Bader against Machida today and it kind of reminded me of how this would look.

On December 15 2014 23:46 Minsk wrote: Dolloway was pretty good, but I just watched Ryan Bader against Machida today and it kind of reminded me of how this would look.

CB has improved his striking and striking defense, however, he is still just average in both areas in the grand scheme of things. I don't think CB would be dumb enough to rush in with his hands down like Bader did, but CB's gas tank usually slows down in the 3rd round when he is forced to fight, and this is a 5-round fighter. Machida needs to be a little more aggressive than usual, that way he doesn't lose a decision like he did against Phil Davis.

I think Machida will catch CB at some point and win ITD.

Machida by decision is at +430, what do you think. I though it was ev+ but after a lot of thinking I am not sure anymore :S

CB " MONEY " D$LLABILLS via shoulder roll sweetness left hook counter KO.

Not a lot of parody on this card, consequently not a lot of value

Machida > Dolloway - I like the +430 decision bet, if Dolloway feels his power and decides to take the 'L', he can certainly avoid the KO from the defensive-minded Machida, and he's certainly not gonna lose a close decision in Brazil, but odds are Machida KO's him, certainly most of the time.

Barao > Gagnon - I think Barao has been over-rated from the start, HOWEVER, this is the worst style matchup ever for Gagnon. He is the polar opposite sort of fighter that would give Barao problems. Stand-up just isn't nearly good enough.

Cummings > Junior - Wouldn't touch this line even though the line isn't wide, Cummings chin is suspect and Junior hits hard and seems fairly well-rounded from the fights I've watched, and he's a big LHW with solid grappling. I believe he's JDS's main sparring partner fwiw. The winner will be whoever has made the biggest strides.

Silverio > Magomedov - I think Silverio is a pretty damn good prospect, would need to go back and watch Magomedov's fights to be sure on the pick, but I know I've been very impressed with Elias - especially when he absolutely desimated Ike Valley Flagg.

Silva > Rhodes - Wouldn't touch this line, Silva should demolish him but has awful fight IQ and Rhodes is probably under-rated from taking fights on short notice (in a bad loss to Sullivan) or fighting monsters like Brandon Thatch and Whittaker

Niinimaki > Carnerio - I think Niinimaki is actually quite good despite his recent losing streak. Fighting a submission fighter on short notice should not be any more dangerous than fighting a BJJ master like Rani Yaya, I think he smokes this guy. I'd have to watch some tape on the other guy to be sure, but my gut says I'd bet on him.

Dias > Elkins - It's in Brazil, not gonna have a finish, wrestler v wrestler

Means > Alexandre - I just like the dirty bird.

No clue about the other awful-looking fights. Fuck Brasil undercards.

On December 16 2014 20:38 soberstone wrote: Machida > Dolloway - I like the +430 decision bet, if Dolloway feels his power and decides to take the 'L', he can certainly avoid the KO from the defensive-minded Machida, and he's certainly not gonna lose a close decision in Brazil, but odds are Machida KO's him, certainly most of the time. Niinimaki > Carnerio - I think Niinimaki is actually quite good despite his recent losing streak. Fighting a submission fighter on short notice should not be any more dangerous than fighting a BJJ master like Rani Yaya, I think he smokes this guy. I'd have to watch some tape on the other guy to be sure, but my gut says I'd bet on him.

I just don't see how this fight goes the distance in a 5-round fight. Machida is always looking for a finish, but he often leaves himself vulnerable to getting out-worked cuz he avoids damage before anything. If Machida were to lose the first 3 rounds against Dollaway, he would get aggressive in the 4th and 5th because he knows he has no choice. Also, Dollaway's gas tank isn't good for a 5-round fight, so he'll be slowing down sometime in the 3rd round, maybe the 4th since Machida isn't extremely active. However, Machida always has the option to KO Dollaway at any time with his quickness and more developed striking skill set. Dollaway isn't a good striker, and he's much slower than Machida. If I were take a decision line, I'd put a bet on Dollaway at +625 or better.

As for Niinimaki, he wrestled and laid and prayed on Rani Yahya, which is why Niinimaki only won by split-decision. He then went on to lose to 2 BJJ fighters in his next 2 fights. His first UFC loss was against Niklas Backstrom, and Backstrom took that fight on short notice. Niinimaki's opponent, Renato Carneiro, is the Jungle Fights champion, so he isn't a rookie. While he is taking this fight on short notice, he is fighting in his home country, so he doesn't have to worry about much. So basically, Niinimaki hasn't impressed me in his 3 fights in the UFC thus far. If anything, I'd take Carneiro ITD +330 and Niinimaki's ML at -130 or better.

I just went all in on Machida + Barao xd

Machida > Dolloway - I like the +430 decision bet, if Dolloway feels his power and decides to take the 'L', he can certainly avoid the KO from the defensive-minded Machida, and he's certainly not gonna lose a close decision in Brazil, but odds are Machida KO's him, certainly most of the time.

I like this analysis. Only thing thats questionable is if Dolloway has the capacity to "take the L".

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On December 17 2014 17:56 PuertoRican wrote: $50 free roll: https://www.kountermove.com/join/3604...-night-58-machida-vs-dollaway-T-free/

Did you notice that Erik Silva only costs $4200? Clearly an error...

On December 17 2014 20:01 soberstone wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2014 17:56 PuertoRican wrote: $50 free roll: https://www.kountermove.com/join/3604...-night-58-machida-vs-dollaway-T-free/ Did you notice that Erik Silva only costs $4200? Clearly an error...

Henry Cejudo was only $4000 last week. Too bad there was a bunch of random results that prevented me from cashing in.

Kountermove usually has at least one fighter that is undervalued, you just gotta keep up with MMA to spot them out. For example, there's always 1-2 fighters in every Bellator card with low price points in Kountermove, I just don't have the time to watch random people fight anymore.

On December 17 2014 20:30 PuertoRican wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2014 20:01 soberstone wrote:   On December 17 2014 17:56 PuertoRican wrote: $50 free roll: https://www.kountermove.com/join/3604...-night-58-machida-vs-dollaway-T-free/ Did you notice that Erik Silva only costs $4200? Clearly an error... Henry Cejudo was only $4000 last week. Too bad there was a bunch of random results that prevented me from cashing in. Kountermove usually has at least one fighter that is undervalued, you just gotta keep up with MMA to spot them out. For example, there's always 1-2 fighters in every Bellator card with low price points in Kountermove, I just don't have the time to watch random people fight anymore.

Well, if that's the case, it's just a little marketing trick by Kountermove to make you think there is some SERIOUS value in participating. (not that I am against their sight, I think it's cool) - but let's be honest, any real skilled competition is going to see those absurd values and throw them in their 5-team roster just the same as we are. I doubt a sight predicated solely on assigning values based on probabilities is going to accidentally, on a consistent basis, make Cejudo or Silva undervalued by thousands of units. But hey, props to them for the little gimmick, I'm just not dumb enough to think I can obtain some sort of advantage that's worth investing real money in something that I perceive as random. Love the freerolls though.

I personally just wish there was a fantasy betting sight that just assigned values and outcomes based on real Vegas betting lines and let you compete directly with other people or the general population without an arbitrary point system of things like significant strikes, knock-downs, takedowns, late finishes, etc. - and instead just a straight-forward money-line winning/losing/prop-betting sort of deal - it would be exactly the same as betting on a sportsbook except you could lower the 'juice' you have to pay because the website would not be taking any risk, just a small fee or percentage off the top for playing. Come to think of it, I wonder why there isn't a sight like this already out there. Maybe it's illegal.

Edit: Or maybe I just thought of a great business model and should patent it and try to get rich. Who knows.

On December 17 2014 21:46 soberstone wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2014 20:30 PuertoRican wrote:   On December 17 2014 20:01 soberstone wrote:   On December 17 2014 17:56 PuertoRican wrote: $50 free roll: https://www.kountermove.com/join/3604...-night-58-machida-vs-dollaway-T-free/ Did you notice that Erik Silva only costs $4200? Clearly an error... Henry Cejudo was only $4000 last week. Too bad there was a bunch of random results that prevented me from cashing in. Kountermove usually has at least one fighter that is undervalued, you just gotta keep up with MMA to spot them out. For example, there's always 1-2 fighters in every Bellator card with low price points in Kountermove, I just don't have the time to watch random people fight anymore. Well, if that's the case, it's just a little marketing trick by Kountermove to make you think there is some SERIOUS value in participating. (not that I am against their sight, I think it's cool) - but let's be honest, any real skilled competition is going to see those absurd values and throw them in their 5-team roster just the same as we are. I doubt a sight predicated solely on assigning values based on probabilities is going to accidentally, on a consistent basis, make Cejudo or Silva undervalued by thousands of units. But hey, props to them for the little gimmick, I'm just not dumb enough to think I can obtain some sort of advantage that's worth investing real money in something that I perceive as random. Love the freerolls though. I personally just wish there was a fantasy betting sight that just assigned values and outcomes based on real Vegas betting lines and let you compete directly with other people or the general population without an arbitrary point system of things like significant strikes, knock-downs, takedowns, late finishes, etc. - and instead just a straight-forward money-line winning/losing/prop-betting sort of deal - it would be exactly the same as betting on a sportsbook except you could lower the 'juice' you have to pay because the website would not be taking any risk, just a small fee or percentage off the top for playing. Come to think of it, I wonder why there isn't a sight like this already out there. Maybe it's illegal. Edit: Or maybe I just thought of a great business model and should patent it and try to get rich. Who knows.

There might be some strategy on Kountermove's part by making people like Henry Cejudo $4000. One idea is that this was the first time he was ever on Kountermove, so maybe the people setting the point-lines treated him as a new fighter or just didn't know his actual skill. Another thing is, Kountermove constantly messes up lines by mistake, which is how I was able to build a bankroll on their site via free rolls. Another thing is, they can't make too many guys $5000+, because it was be extremely hard to make a team. They have 25k points and try to balance it out as much as possible so the bettors can still make a decent team.

The event that started me off was Bellator 131. I was able to get Tito Ortiz, King Mo, Will Brooks, Mike Richman, and Joe Schilling in the same team. Ortiz + Mo + Richman were clear favorites, especially Mo and Richman. Will Brooks was the defending interim champion, and I felt that he was getting better with each fight and was a bad match-up for Michael Chandler, which he was. Joe Schilling was 4300 or less, and was the only "scary" pick, since he is relatively new to MMA and he was going up against Melvin Manhoef, a heavy hitting kickboxer. In the end, my pick on Schilling paid off because he survived Melvin's big flurry in round 1, and then 1-punch KO`ed Melvin in round 2. (Schilling is the better overall kickboxer, but this is MMA.) I took 1st place in that event.

Edit: I got King Mo for 4800 or 4900, which was a gift.

are 5 rounds fights scored same way as 3 rounds fights? meaning if someone throws 100 strikes in 5 rounds you get same amount of points as for 100 strikes in 3 rounds? and winning 3 of 5 rounds is same as winning 3 of 3?

im asking about the freerolls obv

On December 18 2014 10:21 MysticJoey wrote: are 5 rounds fights scored same way as 3 rounds fights? meaning if someone throws 100 strikes in 5 rounds you get same amount of points as for 100 strikes in 3 rounds? and winning 3 of 5 rounds is same as winning 3 of 3? im asking about the freerolls obv

Winning a round doesn't mean anything on Kountermove. I made the mistake a couple weeks ago when I thought Lawler should've gotten more points than Hendricks just because he was the winner. Kountermove works off of strikes, take downs, submission attempts, etc. Hendricks took Lawler down like 7 times or so, which is how he ended up with more points in that close fight.

As for 3 rounds versus 5 rounds: 5 rounds allows the fighter to earn more points. Don't think of the fight in terms of rounds, think of it in terms of minutes. With 25 minutes, a fighter can do more damage and earn more points. In a 3-round fight, a fighter only has 15 minutes to earn points. Basically, Kountermove doesn't look at a fighter and say he won 3 out of 5 rounds.

For example, I expected Hendricks vs. Lawler to go the distance in the second fight, so I picked the fighter who costed less on Kountermove because the points would be similar in the end. I was right, except that I didn't expect Hendricks to get as many take downs.

"Winners are determined by the most points earned – points are awarded: strikes landed, submission attempts, knockdowns, dominant positions, rounds won, and knockout or submission bonuses."

but its basically good to always bet on someone in 5 rounds fight, ok ok

I wouldn't bet the decision for Machida. Dollaway consistently gasses in his fights and this one is five rounds.

I'm intrigued about Cummins at -160.

On December 18 2014 18:36 Nazgul wrote: I wouldn't bet the decision for Machida. Dollaway consistently gasses in his fights and this one is five rounds. I'm intrigued about Cummins at -160.

I really do think Cummins is gonna win. Like my gut says he should be a bigger favorite. But when I break down the fight, he's fighting a guy who is a much better grappler than anyone he's beaten (an Olympic wrestler smothers a middleweight in Roger Navarez and Kyle fucking Kingsberry, so what?) and who hits pretty damn hard, and Cummins chin is a question mark. I know DC is a monster but the shots he put him away with were nothing special. Furthermore, if it's somehow a close fight that GTD, it's in Brazil, so you gotta weigh that as well.

Well I ended up making a small bet on Cummins just $80. There isn't too much of a read except that I think Cummins is someone who improves fast so there's a lot of speculation that he will constantly outpace the lines when he fights. Had a small bet on him vs Kingbury as well.

Got a bunch of lines I liked for UFC 182 too.

MAIN CARD (FOX Sports 1, 10 p.m. ET)

C.B. Dollaway (186) vs. Lyoto Machida (185)
Renan Barao (136) vs. Mitch Gagnon (136)
Antonio Carlos Junior (105) vs. Patrick Cummins (206.8)*
Rashid Magomedov (155) vs. Elias Silverio (155)
Mike Rhodes (171) vs. Erick Silva (171)
Antonio dos Santos Jr. (186) vs. Daniel Sarafian (186)

PRELIMINARY CARD (FOX Sports 1, 7 p.m. ET)

Marcos Rogerio de Lima (205) vs. Igor Pokrajac (206)
Renato Carneiro (146) vs. Tom Niinimaki (146)
Hacran Dias (146) vs. Darren Elkins (145)
Leandro Issa (135) vs. Yuta Sasaki (136)

PRELIMINARY CARD (UFC Fight Pass, 6 p.m. ET)

Tim Means (171) vs. Marcio Alexandre Jr. (171)
Jake Collier (185) vs. Vitor Miranda (185)

* Cummins missed weight by .8 pounds on his first attempt, but made weight on his second attempt.

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gonna watch this one at the arena
my first one

On December 19 2014 20:54 Minion wrote: gonna watch this one at the arena my first one

Sweet. It should be fun.

Will you be singing: "Você vai morrer!" ? :D

i spent a few hours trying to deposit money on pinnacle and i now give up, ill just have to wait for PS to open sport bettings. Every sport bet sites are either mad complicated to deposit on, or offer ridiculous bad odds.

On December 19 2014 20:54 Minion wrote: gonna watch this one at the arena my first one

sick have fun

Fight Pass: http://firstrowus1.eu/watch/307871/3/...fc-fight-night-58:-early-prelims.html

Thats quite the start.. :D

Sigh... Collier had that round... ;/

2 of my 4 KM teams are dead.

Inexperience gonna inexperience

I have Means 3-0, but Alexandre could have won the first two rounds.

Round 1: lull fest.
Round 2: Alexandre landed 1 meaningful shot that could've won him the round, even though Means landed the most.
Round 3: all Means

Means ended up winning a split-decision.

Yea I agree. I'm glad Means won, he clearly deserved it, but I was sort of expecting Alexandre to win via Brasil. 30-27 Means IMO. Fuck the stupid hand down rule. They need to atleast change it to being allowed to knee them if they are clearly on their way up.

The whole, "I think his fingertip was touching the mat," is dumb as fuck. I rather see the 3-point stance rule removed, or at least make it so only the knee has to be touching, not the hand.

I don't know one single person who fights, analyzes fights, or is a fan, who has ever even remotely defended the rule.

Everything I've heard in the last day makes me think Sasaki is about to sub this guy in extremely impressive fashion.

Edit: And everything I've heard was total bullshit.

The commentators said it's 100 degrees Fahrenheit inside the Brazilian stadium. Sasaki looked tired when round 2 started; he was taking short breaths.

Expect other people to gas, too.

Big announcement in brazil..
i say its the return of rampage and he ll fight shogun

Yep... People are gassing as expected.

Good time to re-think your bets.

So Erick Silva is gonna gas in what, 15 seconds?

Just now remembered I have a fightpass subscription..... Not used it at all for the 3 or so months Ive had it --

Tom Niinimaki is finnished.

Moicano looked pretty darn good for a regional fighter who took this fight on 9-days notice.

wow Renato Moicano looked great. That was cool

Well, that is one LEGIT prospect. I saw zero holes. I wanna see him fight a wrestler next. If he can beat, say, a Hacran Dias, he's ready to make a run to the top 10. Not sure the UFC wants to throw him that tough of an opponent yet but man, I'm impressed.

lol wtf mario yamasaki changed his name to fernando?

ehhh.. kinda early stoppage.

2nd time tonight that Fernando Yamasaki stopped a fight too early.

Igor will be cut for sure.

"winning the belt is like losing your virginity..."

Yah it was an early stoppage. People defending it are clinging to the 'violence' argument. The fact of the matter, however, is that the stoppage has nothing to do with the violence being inflicted but rather the opposing fighter's state of defense following it. And Igor looked to be ready to try and defend. No one will know for sure now, he probably would've gotten put out, but that's besides the point. It was early. Not GROSSLY early. But early.

Sucks for Dos Santos. He won that first round.

my stream has a terrible audio delay, anyone got a decent stream?

^ I think most of us are watching this on TV.

That was boss the way he just popped it back in. Too bad the fight had to stop. Especially a fun fight like that. Technique was far from good, but I'll never complain about a haymaker-fest.

On December 20 2014 21:28 milkman wrote: my stream has a terrible audio delay, anyone got a decent stream?

No FS1 eh? Blows.

On December 20 2014 21:28 milkman wrote: my stream has a terrible audio delay, anyone got a decent stream?

This works fine for me: http://www.vipleague.tv/boxing/271198...a-vs-dollaway-live-stream-online.html

On December 20 2014 21:31 soberstone wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2014 21:28 milkman wrote: my stream has a terrible audio delay, anyone got a decent stream? No FS1 eh? Blows.

I have it at work but i dont buy cable for my home TV.. seems like a waste to me, i duno.

i think i could proxy my browser through a different country so ufc fight pass will work, but im too lazy to try.

Oh wtf there are two yamasaki's ? a fernando and a mario.. strange

Goodbye, Mike Rhodes.

Pretty sad I didn't bet on Erick Silva. Sometimes they just hand that kid punching bags to beat up, this was one of those times and I knew it.

Beautiful head and arm choke by Erick Silva!

My only bet is Silva/Barao/Machida parlay and i played this kountermove stuff for the first time without knowing anything and have silva in that too

On December 20 2014 19:23 ERASA wrote: Big announcement in brazil.. i say its the return of rampage and he ll fight shogun

howd you know?

Rampage tweeted something about wanting to fight in the UFC again a few days ago... no shogun rematch though :/

Rampage is still tied to a Bellator contract, so this should be interesting.

Maybe Scott Coker will drag it out a bit to bring some light to the situation, then let Rampage go in the end so he (Coker) looks like a good guy (unlike Bjorn Rebney).

You really think the UFC would announce something like that if rampage still had a contract with bellator... i find that hard to believe but who knows

--- Nuked ---

Thanks, friend! lol

Dude LW is so deep... that Magomedov is just another monster....

And BTW Rampage just tweeted or said something about wanting to fight Shogun. So good call ERASA

Nice finish by Magomedov. Silverio had nothing for him.

Wish i could predicts fights like that then lol

PuertoRican is actually right about the contract thing... i dont get it.

Easy win for Cummins.

And they show a rerun of an earlier fight... as if it wasnt already late enough...

gagnon looking like the better fighter unfortunately =[ he looks way faster than barao

What i have Barao 2-0... not that he looks incredible or anything

Gagnon has landed more strikes than Barao in both rounds. Not by a lot, but still...

i gave 1st one to barao only because of the KD, but 2nd round was a clear round for gagnon imo
anyway now its pretty impossible for gagnon win it depending on the judges lol

Fuck scorecards anyway :D

LMAO!!! I bet all of you betting Barao ITD were shitting bricks!!! ;D

Barao looked like a scared kid during the entire fight, even when he was fresh in the 1st round...

ye he was far from the dominating beast that he used to be

I got up to stretch my body and prepare for at least 2 rounds, but the fight ended just as I started.

lol Lyoto poking the spot where the kick landed, CB wincing and Lyoto smiling lol

Good night everyone

Barao is either not the fighter he used to be or was never the fighter we all thought he was. I happen to think it's a mix of both.

And BTW... as I've said repeatedly for a while now. With each passing day, we will realize that Weidman is the best fighter on the planet.

kinda weird to think that he was not the fighter we thought he was, he ran over everyone he fought against prior to dillashaw. im hoping that he was very nervous and 'afraid' of losing again after all that's been happening to him: losing by ko after being dominated and then colapsing just before a rematch. im sure lots of things went through his head before and during this fight. hopefully he will look better in his next fight. i hope it's not against dillashaw because i still think he needs to build some confidence again. like PR said, he looked "scared".

It was also 100 degrees Fahrenheit inside the building. (the commentators said this at the start of the 2nd fight.)

Either way, Barao looked like crap in the first round, and was gassed in the 3rd; Gagnon was just more gassed in the 3rd.

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Took 12th place in one of the four KM teams I was in. I had to split with 3 other guys, so I only won $11.25 after the split: http://www.kountermove.com/results/35...ht-58-machida-vs-dollaway-T-5/404292/

Too bad I forgot how good Magomedov is on the feet, or else I would've scored big in this other KM team.

I think Barao is/was a bit overrated
he was getting tagged a lot on MacDonalds fight, and also in the Wineland fight
I thought he was going to get raped in the rematch vs Faber, got multiple bets on Faber +3.5, over and
but when he demolished him I thought I was wrong

then he got schooled by Dillashaw and I was "yea I knew it"
right now Im not 100% sure, but if you watch those fights I think hes overrated and was on a hot run

happens that when he smells blood hes goin for the kill, and usually gets it

On December 21 2014 00:33 PuertoRican wrote: It was also 100 degrees Fahrenheit inside the building. (the commentators said this at the start of the 2nd fight.) Either way, Barao looked like crap in the first round, and was gassed in the 3rd; Gagnon was just more gassed in the 3rd. ---------- Took 12th place in one of the four KM teams I was in. I had to split with 3 other guys, so I only won $11.25 after the split: http://www.kountermove.com/results/35...ht-58-machida-vs-dollaway-T-5/404292/ Too bad I forgot how good Magomedov is on the feet, or else I would've scored big in this other KM team.

i was 17th in that one

Barao has that fatal hesitation. Once its there, its almost impossible to get rid of. Get hit in the head a few too many times, and the body starts teaching itself.