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ggplz   Sweden. Nov 27 2014 03:29. Posts 16784 | | |
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When Carrie went off her meds in early S2 for 1-4 eps that was painful to watch and I thought it was probably the worst part of the entire show... but then S3 came and I couldn't believe they went there again for the first 4 eps just to tell us it was an OP the whole time and that sucked even more. I like the minimal way they've dealt with Carrie's mental illness so far in S4. The only other low point imo was how redundant Brody's family was through S3.
BTW, I loved the scene when Carrie hallucinated Brody was still alive. That was great for the show and IMO it shows us somewhere deep down she wishes it could be true just like a lot of the audience do or have considered. Carrie is such a strong female character and I love her. She can be totally vulnerable then the next second manipulate whoever she's with. You never know if it's real with her or if she's just working a target. She can be torn down to absolutely nothing within an episode, survive and pick up the pieces again. She's just so good. Whenever I watch her in the show I just think of all the times "feminists" have whined over the lack of strong female leads and I can't think of ANY guy who would say Homeland would be better if Carrie was replaced by a man. If we flip that around for movie/TV shows with male leads a lot of them just wouldn't be the same either.
I love the complex way they plan all of their characters out too. I think the way they let Saul lay low for a while before he was grabbed was smart too. At that point he was fairly disposable and a lesser writer would probably have just killed him off pretty fast but the way they write just makes the show way more real and engaging for the viewer. When a character isn't that useful most writers tend to want to kill them off, it's easy and is supposed to make the viewers believe the show can go there. It rarely does though because that way of writing doesn't feel believable to the viewers. I really love how the writers opted to use that pattern instead to play on what most viewers expect, elevate the threat to Saul and make it feel even more gripping. That's just great writing. We rarely know what's going to happen next, we're OOP and they're unpredictable without having the GoT kill any character type unpredictability and not the hero never dies predictability either. They are somewhere in the middle and it makes it way more engaging.
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SpasticInk   Sweden. Nov 27 2014 17:29. Posts 6298 | | |
Amazing actress, Clarie Danes (playing Carrie)
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ggplz   Sweden. Nov 27 2014 19:34. Posts 16784 | | |
| On November 27 2014 16:29 SpasticInk wrote:
Amazing actress, Clarie Danes (playing Carrie)
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+1, I looked her up and I'll be checking out some of her other projects. She narrated a book called the handmaid's tail which sounds interesting. Also, she's married to Hugh Dancy from hannibal. |
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impact69   Mexico. Dec 08 2014 22:00. Posts 307 | | |
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Very good season. I wish they made Saul more badass. He is fucking EX head of the CIA, agent. I like when he killed that guy in a cell pretending to hang himself. He had some good opportunities to be bad ass.Like the scene when he got the M16 and just past it to Carry, or on the run. |
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Dennis is my favourite character. I hope they dont kill him |
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careface_   Canada. Dec 09 2014 06:45. Posts 788 | | |
why dont you guys NSFW the spoilers?
It's not so bright to read a thread about a show when you are not up to date, but you'd still always expect people to at least NSFW the spoilers, which takes 1 sec.
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Twisted   Netherlands. Dec 09 2014 07:30. Posts 10422 | | |
Don't read a topic about a tv-show if you aren't caught up. Internet 101.
Having to click spoilers while scrolling through a topic is annoying as well. If you want to know opinions about a show, read some nonspoiler reviews over at imdb.com or something.
| On December 09 2014 00:56 FallinInLove wrote:
Very good season. I wish they made Saul more badass. He is fucking EX head of the CIA, agent. I like when he killed that guy in a cell pretending to hang himself. He had some good opportunities to be bad ass.Like the scene when he got the M16 and just past it to Carry, or on the run. |
Head of the CIA doesn't mean he's a badass asset like Quinn :o |
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 09 2014 10:42. Posts 9634 | | |
just another average series tbh
i'm a bit split between thinking they overdid the american propaganda or they underestimated CIA's propaganda, but we ll never know so :/ |
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yea, but you don't become senior intelligence officer without being junior intelligence officer i imagine. So Saul could be chasing mofos around the world his whole life. Or the post is political only? I don't think so. |
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Joe   Czech Republic. Dec 09 2014 13:09. Posts 5987 | | |
| On December 09 2014 11:16 FallinInLove wrote:
yea, but you don't become senior intelligence officer without being junior intelligence officer i imagine. So Saul could be chasing mofos around the world his whole life. Or the post is political only? I don't think so. |
Some intelligence officers work mostly in the office and only do very little field work and they can still get promoted to very high level posts.
And even out of those who mostly do field work, very few are pro-assasins like Quinn (used to be). |
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Maybe, but they surely had an opportunity to make him a badass. |
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waga   United Kingdom. Dec 09 2014 20:54. Posts 2375 | | |
Who gives a fuck ?
We've got Quinn :o |
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Twisted   Netherlands. Dec 09 2014 22:14. Posts 10422 | | |
| On December 09 2014 13:23 FallinInLove wrote:
Maybe, but they surely had an opportunity to make him a badass. |
He's a fat 60-something year old dude. Making him some kind of Liam Neeson Taken-style badass would be completely unbelievable. The fact that he escaped from the Taliban cell in the first place was pretty remarkable. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Dec 09 2014 23:55. Posts 34250 | | |
| On December 09 2014 21:14 Twisted wrote:
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On December 09 2014 13:23 FallinInLove wrote:
Maybe, but they surely had an opportunity to make him a badass. |
He's a fat 60-something year old dude. Making him some kind of Liam Neeson Taken-style badass would be completely unbelievable. The fact that he escaped from the Taliban cell in the first place was pretty remarkable.
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this.. actually him doing some rambo stuff would be some hollywoodesque cliche crap, some of you have terrible taste, go watch Transformers or something. |
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Taste different than your taste, is not equal to terrible taste. Don't be so narcissistic Baal. |
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 11 2014 18:33. Posts 9634 | | |
I almost caught up with the actual episode, but I have to say this season is so illogical it hurts my mind. Highlight would be finding a taliban leader and having only one drone ? They have about 10 000 drones over the country practically doing nothing, they have a high priority target and only put 1 drone there ? Sure makes sick sense, so the taliban runs away, he outplayed em by showing himself ggwp
Best spy ever, doesn't put normal booty traps in the house where she keep the meds that keep her sane, so a complete amateur changes her pills. Much logic too
What the hell ?
And the constant remarks of how 9/11 and Bin Laden's death are real and only arabs and nutheads believe the opposite are quite annoying.
And showing how talibans are celebrated in the mid east is so retarded as well. Anyone that has ever read some kind of a book would realize talibans are as hated as american spies and droens |
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Baalim   Mexico. Dec 12 2014 01:08. Posts 34250 | | |
| On December 10 2014 05:02 FallinInLove wrote:
Taste different than your taste, is not equal to terrible taste. Don't be so narcissistic Baal. |
Yes you can have a taste for bad quality stuff, like if you think Twilight is an amazing book and a profound love story well, thats your taste, but it doesnt change the fact that the book and movie is shit.
Sault is an old frail man in conflict probably because of the ruthless stuff he did younger with his new "old age wisdom", expecting him to be some kind of rambo badass is fucking stupid and childish.
There is already and old man badass:
Thats a realistic old badass, he has lived and thrived in strife all his life, and not spent decades sitting in an office desk.
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mnj   United States. Dec 13 2014 01:24. Posts 3848 | | |
this show sacres the shit of me, liek i cant help but feel america and the world is gonna get some middle-eastern hysteria |
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cariadon   Estonia. Dec 15 2014 17:54. Posts 4019 | | |
| On December 11 2014 17:33 Spitfiree wrote:
I almost caught up with the actual episode, but I have to say this season is so illogical it hurts my mind. Highlight would be finding a taliban leader and having only one drone ? They have about 10 000 drones over the country practically doing nothing, they have a high priority target and only put 1 drone there ? Sure makes sick sense, so the taliban runs away, he outplayed em by showing himself ggwp
Best spy ever, doesn't put normal booty traps in the house where she keep the meds that keep her sane, so a complete amateur changes her pills. Much logic too
What the hell ?
And the constant remarks of how 9/11 and Bin Laden's death are real and only arabs and nutheads believe the opposite are quite annoying.
And showing how talibans are celebrated in the mid east is so retarded as well. Anyone that has ever read some kind of a book would realize talibans are as hated as american spies and droens |
"booty trap" ?! what the hell is a booty trap? |
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