Philip Seymour Hoffman found dead

Found dead in his home due to what seems to be a drug overdose.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-26014039

According to this article 50 envelopes of heroin were found in his home:
http://www.watoday.com.au/entertainme...-home-reports-say-20140204-31xxq.html

"“I think back at that time, if I had the money, that kind of money and stuff, I would have died.”"

drug addictions are awful.. I'd rather have fatal cancer than having a serious drug addiction

On February 03 2014 17:48 k4ir0s wrote: "“I think back at that time, if I had the money, that kind of money and stuff, I would have died.”" drug addictions are awful.. I'd rather have fatal cancer than having a serious drug addiction

So you would rather be dead than hooked on drugs?

ironically ,in the movie Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead, his heroin addiction gets him killed.

On February 03 2014 17:56 4TM wrote: Show nested quote + On February 03 2014 17:48 k4ir0s wrote: "“I think back at that time, if I had the money, that kind of money and stuff, I would have died.”" drug addictions are awful.. I'd rather have fatal cancer than having a serious drug addiction So you would rather be dead than hooked on drugs?

for sure.. considering that it not only causes immense suffering to yourself, but to all your friends and family. :/ I won't be suffering when i'm dead.

you have ability to quit drugs. not cancer...

On February 03 2014 18:02 k4ir0s wrote: Show nested quote + On February 03 2014 17:56 4TM wrote:   On February 03 2014 17:48 k4ir0s wrote: "“I think back at that time, if I had the money, that kind of money and stuff, I would have died.”" drug addictions are awful.. I'd rather have fatal cancer than having a serious drug addiction So you would rather be dead than hooked on drugs? for sure.. considering that it not only causes immense suffering to yourself, but to all your friends and family. :/ I won't be suffering when i'm dead.

I get what you are saying but you can come back from a drug addiction as unlikely as it is. Where as terminal cancer is gg.

I think he was not acting at all whenever he plays a gambling or druggie degen - he looks sooooo convincing

loved him in almost famous

how about having neither heroin addiction or terminal cancer...both sound horrible.

and dood...the family suffers just as much if not more if you have terminally ill cancer...not to mention leaving behind crippling medical debts if you're in the US.

liked him in this movie

Extremely sad. RIP

No sympathy, heroin is for retards.

On February 03 2014 21:57 NewbSaibot wrote: No sympathy, heroin is for retards.

So you high on heroin right now dawg?

On February 03 2014 21:57 NewbSaibot wrote: No sympathy, heroin is for retards.

my original reaction, but i guess once you get hooked it doesnt matter what it is you're taking

not sure why a successful actor would use heroin over cocaine, heroine is the drugs of ghettos

On February 05 2014 20:50 TalentedTom wrote: not sure why a successful actor would use heroin over cocaine, heroine is the drugs of ghettos

no, crack is the drug of ghettos, Heroin is pretty expensive and many musicians use it

On February 03 2014 17:48 k4ir0s wrote: "“I think back at that time, if I had the money, that kind of money and stuff, I would have died.”" drug addictions are awful.. I'd rather have fatal cancer than having a serious drug addiction

Lol no that's absolutely retarded

Lol heroin is a lot more expensive than blow ounce for ounce. Not even close. A lot of drug addicts enjoy their addictions fwiw as long as they can afford. You deal with normal opiate addicts all the time and don't even realize it. Not everyone is a strung junkie on the street. A lot of ignorance itt. To be expected from video game nerds in moms basement I suppose.

How on earth is ANY heroin addiction worse than cancer. If you can afford it you can live a completely normal life while having drug induced pleasure throughout the day. How can that be compared to dying in pain from cancer? Wtf?

PSH died because he took a break and did his normal size shot with a reduced tolerance. Just a mistake. A common one but not like he existed in misery lol he just fucked up.

This makes me want to try heroin. Must be pretty damn good.

Russell Brand has some important statements on drugs and all. He did a ton of heroin. Basically he says don't.

On February 05 2014 23:54 traxamillion wrote: Lol heroin is a lot more expensive than blow ounce for ounce. Not even close. A lot of drug addicts enjoy their addictions fwiw as long as they can afford. You deal with normal opiate addicts all the time and don't even realize it. Not everyone is a strung junkie on the street. A lot of ignorance itt. To be expected from video game nerds in moms basement I suppose. How on earth is ANY heroin addiction worse than cancer. If you can afford it you can live a completely normal life while having drug induced pleasure throughout the day. How can that be compared to dying in pain from cancer? Wtf? PSH died because he took a break and did his normal size shot with a reduced tolerance. Just a mistake. A common one but not like he existed in misery lol he just fucked up.

While I agree with most of what you write, I just don't comprehend how you say this is "just a mistake". Seem to trivialize it a lot.

On February 06 2014 10:45 JosephCalgary wrote: This makes me want to try heroin. Must be pretty damn good.

It probably is, the only thing holding me back from trying this so called "hard drugs" is the fear that they could somehow alter the chemicals of my brain forever, the whole you will feel so good you won't feel as good with anything else ever so you just have to come back to it to ever feel as good again. That said it's probably wise to research extensively before trying any of these drugs yourself.

On February 06 2014 15:45 locoo wrote: Show nested quote + On February 06 2014 10:45 JosephCalgary wrote: This makes me want to try heroin. Must be pretty damn good. It probably is, the only thing holding me back from trying this so called "hard drugs" is the fear that they could somehow alter the chemicals of my brain forever, the whole you will feel so good you won't feel as good with anything else ever so you just have to come back to it to ever feel as good again. That said it's probably wise to research extensively before trying any of these drugs yourself.

troof.

Drugs like Heroin, Morphine, oxycountin etc permanently alter your brain by increasing your dopamine and serotonin levels i believe (the shit that makes you feel happy in your brain). So you get that extreme euphoric feeling...

The problem with this is that from then on without the drug you chemically/physically can't feel as happy from normal things anymore...Thus you probably will never feel happy again. Which is why once u get hooked on that stuff you almost never come back from it. Remember reading that Heroin addicts of other addicts of that nature have a 86% rebound rate even while in therapy etc...I would recommend against this unless you are already about to die or don't have anyone that gives a fuck about you and your well being. This stuff is no joke.

If you guys wanna do some crazy shit. try some pure DMT and go to the after life and come back...It will change you for sure. But not in the way heroin and shit like that will.

I feel an LP drug experiment party coming up

oh crap, learning something new every day

On February 06 2014 16:05 Hoolz_1907 wrote: I feel an LP drug experiment party coming up

I'm in

traxamillion you just justified one extreme with the other and dont even think its wrong. How do you define normal opiates? Weed, tobacoo, legal non recipe requirable painkillers? Im fine with people experimanting with drugs while they're young, but having a family and "by mistake" doing an overdose is fucking pathetic.

Hey maybe if heroin was legal this guy would of been able to get the right dose without trying to play doctor. This man died because of politics.
And DMT is not the afterlife, DMT is hallucinations
My old roommate died of a heroin overdose as well. I have no clue if it was intentional or unintentional but it shouldn't be happening unless its intentional suicide.

On February 06 2014 17:47 JosephCalgary wrote: Hey maybe if heroin was legal this guy would of been able to get the right dose without trying to play doctor. This man died because of politics. And DMT is not the afterlife, DMT is hallucinations My old roommate died of a heroin overdose as well. I have no clue if it was intentional or unintentional but it shouldn't be happening unless its intentional suicide.

legal drugs kill a lot more people than heroin. making a drug legal doesn't prevent people from being stupid and overdosing

On February 06 2014 14:30 SpasticInk wrote: While I agree with most of what you write, I just don't comprehend how you say this is "just a mistake". Seem to trivialize it a lot.

yeah 11k spent on heroin each month

Doing any drug once is not going to alter your brain chemistry that is absurd. It is prolonged use that causes Abnormal up down regulation of receptor sites and irregular levels of neurotransmitters. That's not to say you won't like it and won't want to do it Again...

I say PSH made a mistake because he obviously did. He didn't do a tester shot to gauge the strength of his dope and ended up doing too much. He might have taken a break and came back and did his normal dose with a reduce tolerance. Obviously his overdose was accidental thus the mistake. There is nothing inherently fatal about diacytlmorphine (heroin) or any other opiate. They are actually non toxic in the body, the user can do unlimited amounts assuming they have the requisite tolerance. All that overdose is, is death due to respiratory depression from doing too much. It's not a random thing and easily prevented if you know what you are doing and take the proper precautions. PSH was rich enough to have someone follow him around 24/7 with narcan (an opioid reversing drug that has a higher affinity for the receptors than the opioids stripping them off completely causing an immediate stop to whatever the opioids are doing) which would have saved his life.

I'm not trivializing his drug use or saying it's right or wrong (it's not wrong his choice to put in his body what he wants). I'm just saying he made a dosage mistake unless it was suicide. It is what it is.

Joseph Calgary is not wrong

And it should show you a little something about how functioning opiate addicts can be that this guy was such a great actor

On February 06 2014 17:47 JosephCalgary wrote: Hey maybe if heroin was legal this guy would of been able to get the right dose without trying to play doctor. This man died because of politics. And DMT is not the afterlife, DMT is hallucinations My old roommate died of a heroin overdose as well. I have no clue if it was intentional or unintentional but it shouldn't be happening unless its intentional suicide.

DMT is the shit that's produced in your brain when you die.

often times when people go into cardiac arrest they'll have out of body experiences etc due to naturally occuring DMT that's released in your brain.

so DMT can give you an "afterlife" type experience.

It isn't like lsd or shit like that

Well, Im more of a boring person one could say, but there's so much shit that can actually happen and fuck over your life, there's no need to magnify that possibility by a large amount by using hard drugs. Im not saying this guy deserved it, cause I have no right to judge him and everyone does what they think is best for them...

I did DMT 25 times and now I have Schizophrenia Paranoia, a horrible condition. those dmt experiences were the best times of my life not even close though. I just wish I could do some damn heroin. A heroin overdose is a legit desirable way to die. I read about it in Peaceful Pill ehandbook. Hoffman died very well compared to normal ways of dying. This is so much more desirable way to die. You could be in agony for months instead you do an awesome drug and not even feel death coming. Fall unconscious and die in your sleep to respiratory arrest. Imagine real death when you take your last breath its like holding your breath and not being able to breathe until you pass out from lack of oxygen reaching your brain. Its so much better to be unconscious when this occurs unless you want that DMT experience that occurs when you die. I personally think DMT is one of the most amazing drugs out there but how much you have to pay in pain and agony when you die makes it not worth it. Death by heroin, death by nembutal is so much preferable to what occurs naturally.

On February 05 2014 23:54 traxamillion wrote: How on earth is ANY heroin addiction worse than cancer. If you can afford it you can live a completely normal life while having drug induced pleasure throughout the day. How can that be compared to dying in pain from cancer? Wtf? .

What I should have said is, I'd rather be dead than have a serious addiction to heroin, or crack. 99% of addicts don't have 11k/month to spend on heroin, they end up selling everything they have, stealing from friends and family to support there addiction, having to deal with ups and downs (mainly downs) until they hit rock bottom and decide to either quit, or suicide.

how is it retarded to want to die, rather than going through that?

you're sounding like a drug dealer trying to justify what he's doing. Weren't you the one who offered Chris's depressed friend a heroin hookup over the forums?

On February 07 2014 11:56 k4ir0s wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2014 23:54 traxamillion wrote: How on earth is ANY heroin addiction worse than cancer. If you can afford it you can live a completely normal life while having drug induced pleasure throughout the day. How can that be compared to dying in pain from cancer? Wtf? . What I should have said is, I'd rather be dead than have a serious addiction to heroin, or crack. 99% of addicts don't have 11k/month to spend on heroin, they end up selling everything they have, stealing from friends and family to support there addiction, having to deal with ups and downs (mainly downs) until they hit rock bottom and decide to either quit, or suicide. how is it retarded to want to die, rather than going through that? you're sounding like a drug dealer trying to justify what he's doing. Weren't you the one who offered Chris's depressed friend a heroin hookup over the forums?

More like some guy offered me 10k to point him to a street corner in San Francisco and I never took it seriously nothing came remotely close to happening. I had my own drug addiction and got clean. I never sold all my shit I had a job and cute girlfriend the whole time no one even knew other than the friends I copd with. Just saying it doesn't go down the way you describe 99% of the time those are just the cases you hear about.

And if you remember some guy made a random blog post about offering ridiculous money for a connect and I posted IN the thread sure. If I was serious it woulda went straight to pm. I actually did the opposite of getting him drugs and told him to chill out and go back to his family.

And wanting to die over living is pretty retarded In almost all cases unless you are being tortured to end or something. You can recover from drug addiction so how would you rather just die than try to get better?

Yeah that kind of a submissive behaviour leads no good path agree

On February 07 2014 11:08 JosephCalgary wrote: I did DMT 25 times and now I have Schizophrenia Paranoia, a horrible condition. those dmt experiences were the best times of my life not even close though. I just wish I could do some damn heroin. A heroin overdose is a legit desirable way to die. I read about it in Peaceful Pill ehandbook. Hoffman died very well compared to normal ways of dying. This is so much more desirable way to die. You could be in agony for months instead you do an awesome drug and not even feel death coming. Fall unconscious and die in your sleep to respiratory arrest. Imagine real death when you take your last breath its like holding your breath and not being able to breathe until you pass out from lack of oxygen reaching your brain. Its so much better to be unconscious when this occurs unless you want that DMT experience that occurs when you die. I personally think DMT is one of the most amazing drugs out there but how much you have to pay in pain and agony when you die makes it not worth it. Death by heroin, death by nembutal is so much preferable to what occurs naturally.

lol holy fuck 25 times ;o.

I did it once before it i felt like my life changed. Will def try again but not much more than that for sure. shit's intense.

On February 08 2014 16:07 YoMeR wrote: Show nested quote + On February 07 2014 11:08 JosephCalgary wrote: I did DMT 25 times and now I have Schizophrenia Paranoia, a horrible condition. those dmt experiences were the best times of my life not even close though. I just wish I could do some damn heroin. A heroin overdose is a legit desirable way to die. I read about it in Peaceful Pill ehandbook. Hoffman died very well compared to normal ways of dying. This is so much more desirable way to die. You could be in agony for months instead you do an awesome drug and not even feel death coming. Fall unconscious and die in your sleep to respiratory arrest. Imagine real death when you take your last breath its like holding your breath and not being able to breathe until you pass out from lack of oxygen reaching your brain. Its so much better to be unconscious when this occurs unless you want that DMT experience that occurs when you die. I personally think DMT is one of the most amazing drugs out there but how much you have to pay in pain and agony when you die makes it not worth it. Death by heroin, death by nembutal is so much preferable to what occurs naturally. lol holy fuck 25 times ;o. I did it once before it i felt like my life changed. Will def try again but not much more than that for sure. shit's intense.

lol I couldn't get enough of the other dimensions or hallucinations that seemed so real. But Ive been battling depression for over a decade so DMT is a perfect escape for me

What do u feel?

On February 07 2014 11:08 JosephCalgary wrote: I did DMT 25 times and now I have Schizophrenia Paranoia,

damn.. given the opportunity, I would probably be too afraid to try psychedelics, considering one of my parents has paranoid schizophrenia :/

You do DMT every night.

DMT is not linked to Schizophrenia, if you are over certain age, around 25, its extremely unlikely you will develop it.