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player999   Brasil. Apr 17 2012 17:45. Posts 7978 | | |
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Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol | Last edit: 18/04/2012 18:14 |
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Drakk   Canada. Apr 17 2012 17:50. Posts 1199 | | |
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MiPwnYa   Brasil. Apr 17 2012 18:02. Posts 5230 | | |
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Ket   United Kingdom. Apr 17 2012 18:11. Posts 8665 | | |
i'll take 20 shares but got a quick Q about the buyins. The total amount used for buyins is approximate for now right? because of rebuys and it being uncertain exactly how many other side tournaments you'll play. So am I right in assuming the $250 price of 1 share for now is approximate and will be adjusted after the scoop series is over? |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 17 2012 18:15. Posts 7978 | | |
I will play side tourneys until i reach 25k, the SCOOP tourneys are estimated at 15k and could go up or down as you say but I will adjust the side tourneys to make it 25k total |
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Ket   United Kingdom. Apr 17 2012 18:16. Posts 8665 | | |
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Expiate   Bulgaria. Apr 17 2012 18:16. Posts 236 | | |
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Twisted   Netherlands. Apr 17 2012 18:35. Posts 10422 | | |
I'd like 10% (or 10 shares). |
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Twisted   Netherlands. Apr 17 2012 18:39. Posts 10422 | | |
What does make-up 65/35 mean exactly? |
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rememp   Canada. Apr 17 2012 18:41. Posts 480 | | |
I'd like 0.5% if that's okay |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 17 2012 18:42. Posts 7978 | | |
| How it Works
A typical tournament backing deal might be outlined as "50/50 with makeup."
What this means is that the backer, who puts up the money for a player's buyins, agrees to split 50% of the backee's tournament profits but only after previous buyins have been recouped. The amount that needs to be recouped is makeup.
E.g.
Using the "50/50 with makeup" example as a model: A backer puts his player into 12 $10,000 tournaments and the player doesn't cash any of them. Thus, the partnership has a $120K "makeup figure."
If, on the 11th tournament, the player cashes for $240K, the $120K would be subtracted off the top and the remaining $120K would be split $60K apiece between the backer and his "stakehorse." |
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remdyn   Canada. Apr 17 2012 18:44. Posts 12 | | |
I'll take 0.5% please. Good luck! |
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Flexible88   Belgium. Apr 17 2012 18:46. Posts 4 | | |
I'll take 0.5% too plz.
Money sent |
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rememp   Canada. Apr 17 2012 18:52. Posts 480 | | |
Are you selling all $25,000? Or are you taking shares for yourself? |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 17 2012 18:55. Posts 7978 | | |
I would take the remaining action that didn't sell, but it seems that ppl actually think I'm good so it'll sell out  |
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rememp   Canada. Apr 17 2012 19:04. Posts 480 | | |
I've never staked anyone before, but jumped at the chance, because it's likely a sick ROI proposition as you are one of the best around.
Just so I understand correctly the staking is with makeup and 65 investors/ 35 you for profit right?
So if you play everything and and profit $38,461.54 (25k/65%) - Finish at $63,461.54 I will break even right?
Edit: I'm retarded - it's should have been obvious to me that makeup means the split starts after the first 100% (25k)
You would have to pretty much be able to see other people's hole cards for my above proposition to make sense to backers |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 17 2012 19:07. Posts 7978 | | |
loool obviously not man
you get 100% up to the first 25k, only then its a split, I dont know the exact math, but I'm pretty sure I need less than a 35% ROI for this to be +EV for you |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 17 2012 19:09. Posts 7978 | | |
from the top of my head I would think that a 20% ROI player would be a good investment in this format, and 20% ROI is really not much |
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rememp   Canada. Apr 17 2012 19:12. Posts 480 | | |
lololol I wrote that thinking it was reasonable, and was waiting for you to reply, see you laughing, and I'm like wtf?
Looked up at what I wrote and realized that it is insane. Please do not judge me. I got it now.
Yes, yes - you don't need to convince me it's +ROI for me, money is already sent.: )
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player999   Brasil. Apr 17 2012 19:13. Posts 7978 | | |
if it were like you said, I'm pretty sure anyone in the world would be hugely -EV, thats why I loled |
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Twisted   Netherlands. Apr 17 2012 19:16. Posts 10422 | | |
Jerry Yang wouldn't, he has contacts to higher powerz. |
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rememp   Canada. Apr 17 2012 19:16. Posts 480 | | |
| On April 17 2012 18:13 player999 wrote:
if it were like you said, I'm pretty sure anyone in the world would be hugely -EV, thats why I loled |
Yes! lol I edited my comment, lol obviously wasn't thinking, exams are stressing me out too much |
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tutz   Brasil. Apr 17 2012 19:31. Posts 2140 | | |
quero 10%! quando mando pra vc no ps? PODE RESERVAR! |
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HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 17 2012 19:32. Posts 2083 | | |
1 share here.
Sent 215$ because of transfer limit, will send 35$ more after 24h or so 
GL |
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remdyn   Canada. Apr 17 2012 20:06. Posts 12 | | |
I have decided that I would like to take 1 share instead of the original 0.5 share. Good Luck! |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 17 2012 20:41. Posts 7978 | | |
| On April 17 2012 18:31 tutz wrote:
quero 10%! quando mando pra vc no ps? PODE RESERVAR! |
sobrou 6.5, fica $1625  |
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tutz   Brasil. Apr 17 2012 20:56. Posts 2140 | | |
| On April 17 2012 19:41 player999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 18:31 tutz wrote:
quero 10%! quando mando pra vc no ps? PODE RESERVAR! |
sobrou 6.5, fica $1625 
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ta beleza, te mando no PS até dia 1 de maio sem falta!  |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 17 2012 20:58. Posts 7978 | | |
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jvilla777   Australia. Apr 17 2012 21:28. Posts 1348 | | |
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longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! | |
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jvilla777   Australia. Apr 17 2012 21:35. Posts 1348 | | |
ok plz keep me updated, thanx! |
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longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! | |
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tutz   Brasil. Apr 17 2012 22:16. Posts 2140 | | |
velho, n sei se vc percebeu, mas sua lista de schedule ta toda errada. tu chegou a dar uma olhada na lista do scoop 2012?
varios eventos q vc colocou la na lista estão diferentes do que realmente são, por exemplo: main envent. O low é de 109, vc colocou 82, o medium eh de 1050, vc colocou de 700. tu ta ligado nisso? |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 17 2012 22:21. Posts 7978 | | |
| On April 17 2012 21:16 tutz wrote:
velho, n sei se vc percebeu, mas sua lista de schedule ta toda errada. tu chegou a dar uma olhada na lista do scoop 2012?
varios eventos q vc colocou la na lista estão diferentes do que realmente são, por exemplo: main envent. O low é de 109, vc colocou 82, o medium eh de 1050, vc colocou de 700. tu ta ligado nisso? |
eu peguei a lista de eventos do pre-lançamentos, nem conferi se mudaram msm, mas pega nda, vou ajustar |
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rogier   Netherlands. Apr 18 2012 07:33. Posts 1528 | | |
i wouldnt mind getting 4 shares as well 
kinda unclear if it's still available. let me know |
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gawdawaful   Canada. Apr 18 2012 12:14. Posts 9012 | | |
how did I miss this two years in a row |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 18 2012 13:58. Posts 7978 | | |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 18 2012 13:59. Posts 7978 | | |
| On April 18 2012 11:14 gawdawaful wrote:
how did I miss this two years in a row |
I JUST BARELY MISSED MiPwnYa's WCOOP man, that one sucked a lot |
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Ket   United Kingdom. Apr 18 2012 18:26. Posts 8665 | | |
The sheet now says $30k in buyins? What's being added? i assume sending $ anytime before wcoop starts is ok? |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 18 2012 19:02. Posts 7978 | | |
| On April 18 2012 17:26 Ket wrote:
The sheet now says $30k in buyins? What's being added? i assume sending $ anytime before wcoop starts is ok? |
I made the first schedule based on the first release of the SCOOP schedule, so had to redo and decided it would be better like this to give more room for side events
I am thinking sending by May 1 would be best so I can give room for ppl on the waiting list in case someone gives up |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 18 2012 19:07. Posts 7978 | | |
they added 1k events and changed some of the buy ins for others |
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HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 18 2012 19:41. Posts 2083 | | |
rest of may share is sent!
git'er dun neves  |
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Ket   United Kingdom. Apr 18 2012 20:38. Posts 8665 | | |
| On April 18 2012 18:02 player999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 17:26 Ket wrote:
The sheet now says $30k in buyins? What's being added? i assume sending $ anytime before wcoop starts is ok? |
I made the first schedule based on the first release of the SCOOP schedule, so had to redo and decided it would be better like this to give more room for side events
I am thinking sending by May 1 would be best so I can give room for ppl on the waiting list in case someone gives up
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sounds good.. if you play 30k instead of 25k worth and a bunch of the extra 5k goes to the regular mid/high tournys and not some tough H events im pretty happy about the extra buyins.. but that makes the price of 1 share $300 right? instead of 250 |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 18 2012 20:57. Posts 7978 | | |
| On April 18 2012 19:38 Ket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 18:02 player999 wrote:
| On April 18 2012 17:26 Ket wrote:
The sheet now says $30k in buyins? What's being added? i assume sending $ anytime before wcoop starts is ok? |
I made the first schedule based on the first release of the SCOOP schedule, so had to redo and decided it would be better like this to give more room for side events
I am thinking sending by May 1 would be best so I can give room for ppl on the waiting list in case someone gives up
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sounds good.. if you play 30k instead of 25k worth and a bunch of the extra 5k goes to the regular mid/high tournys and not some tough H events im pretty happy about the extra buyins.. but that makes the price of 1 share $300 right? instead of 250 |
yeah, most going for the regulars
no, its just that the 250 is not 1/100 anymore, its 1/120 |
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jarre007   Belgium. Apr 19 2012 13:55. Posts 2 | | |
put me on waiting list plz little bit to late but ok who knows  |
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