PokerStars starts legal war against PokerTableRatings.com - Page 2

On April 17 2012 19:47 Bejamin1 wrote: I think it's too little too late. How can they pretend like they give a shit after years of ignoring it? Not sure they have much legal grounds either the information they are angry about is freely given to anyone who logs on and observes hands. If they have legal grounds here HEM is next IMO. It's the same principal. Also I think it's pretty funny that everyone here uses HEM but denounces PTR. How is it fair to the fish that you use fancy tools to keep ever more detailed statistics on their game? Heck it even automatically takes notes for you now.

Buying stats from PTR rather than compiling stats from games that you have participated in is very different both legally and morally......

On April 17 2012 19:47 Bejamin1 wrote: I think it's too little too late. How can they pretend like they give a shit after years of ignoring it? Not sure they have much legal grounds either the information they are angry about is freely given to anyone who logs on and observes hands. If they have legal grounds here HEM is next IMO. It's the same principal. Also I think it's pretty funny that everyone here uses HEM but denounces PTR. How is it fair to the fish that you use fancy tools to keep ever more detailed statistics on their game? Heck it even automatically takes notes for you now.

It's not fair I don't think anyone is arguing that. It's a typical example where if everyone would do what they believe in there would not be an issue. However because you can be damn sure your opponents are using it you pretty much have to do it yourself as well, if you don't want to put yourself at a (large) disadvantage. That's why laws and such exist because humans tend to put their own benefits above what they believe in. In this case believing PTR is wrong only plays a small part in a persons life, but the ability to make money from poker is what makes or breaks it. The two opinions are not nearly around the same scale of importance for people.

On April 18 2012 04:35 4kinggenius wrote: Show nested quote + On April 17 2012 19:47 Bejamin1 wrote: I think it's too little too late. How can they pretend like they give a shit after years of ignoring it? Not sure they have much legal grounds either the information they are angry about is freely given to anyone who logs on and observes hands. If they have legal grounds here HEM is next IMO. It's the same principal. Also I think it's pretty funny that everyone here uses HEM but denounces PTR. How is it fair to the fish that you use fancy tools to keep ever more detailed statistics on their game? Heck it even automatically takes notes for you now. Buying stats from PTR rather than compiling stats from games that you have participated in is very different both legally and morally......

This adds another dynamic to the argument as well.