Stroggos_nz collected $1337 from pot

haha nice

i really dont understand his flop 4bet, what does that accomplish?

On November 28 2012 03:24 wobbly_au wrote: i really dont understand his flop 4bet, what does that accomplish?

i don't need to be 3bet bluffing this flop too much for him to be making money on his 4bet bluff. He thinks im imbalanced here and that i wont continue over his 4bet

On November 28 2012 03:27 Stroggoz wrote: Show nested quote + On November 28 2012 03:24 wobbly_au wrote: i really dont understand his flop 4bet, what does that accomplish? i don't need to be 3bet bluffing this flop too much for him to be making money on his 4bet bluff. He thinks im imbalanced here and that i wont continue over his 4bet

i know its a cheap bluff, but still it only works if u have PURE bluffs, coz that size will not get you to fold any piece (gutty highcards, straight draws, flush draws, sets, 2pairs) nothing.. ufold nothing... maybe not even good high cards.... lol I have a feeling it might have to do with if you call (pair+sd) or highcards or flush draws then he will barrel and bluff you off on some dry turns??

On November 28 2012 03:33 wobbly_au wrote: Show nested quote + On November 28 2012 03:27 Stroggoz wrote:   On November 28 2012 03:24 wobbly_au wrote: i really dont understand his flop 4bet, what does that accomplish? i don't need to be 3bet bluffing this flop too much for him to be making money on his 4bet bluff. He thinks im imbalanced here and that i wont continue over his 4bet i know its a cheap bluff, but still it only works if u have PURE bluffs, coz that size will not get you to fold any piece (gutty highcards, straight draws, flush draws, sets, 2pairs) nothing.. ufold nothing... maybe not even good high cards.... lol I have a feeling it might have to do with if you call (pair+sd) or highcards or flush draws then he will barrel and bluff you off on some dry turns??

yeah, i mean he has to follow through on the turn if i call. I think he'd have a pretty profitable turn bet or shove if i flat here. Now im thinking i should've flat his 4bet to protect that range.

On November 28 2012 03:38 Stroggoz wrote: Show nested quote + On November 28 2012 03:33 wobbly_au wrote:   On November 28 2012 03:27 Stroggoz wrote:   On November 28 2012 03:24 wobbly_au wrote: i really dont understand his flop 4bet, what does that accomplish? i don't need to be 3bet bluffing this flop too much for him to be making money on his 4bet bluff. He thinks im imbalanced here and that i wont continue over his 4bet i know its a cheap bluff, but still it only works if u have PURE bluffs, coz that size will not get you to fold any piece (gutty highcards, straight draws, flush draws, sets, 2pairs) nothing.. ufold nothing... maybe not even good high cards.... lol I have a feeling it might have to do with if you call (pair+sd) or highcards or flush draws then he will barrel and bluff you off on some dry turns?? yeah, i mean he has to follow through on the turn if i call. I think he'd have a pretty profitable turn bet or shove if i flat here. Now im thinking i should've flat his 4bet to protect that range.

well thats assuming he is on that level, i usually dont give people that kind of credit... maybe i should??

balancing your 4bet call on flop after a 3bet preflop
wut ? for real ?

On November 28 2012 03:54 waga wrote: balancing your 4bet call on flop after a 3bet preflop wut ? for real ?

definately happens in the highstakes..

i think u limited how much money u could extract from his overall range when u made the small 3bet to 410 with the plan of 5betting over 4bets.

like what does he really 4bet with to only 175 more on this draw heavy of a board? ... if he has something really good he's gonna want to put more money in the pot to protect it. i mean, its not a terrible play or anything to 3bet to this size because im sure he was thinking the same thing when he decided to make that 4bet, just think not most +ev.