I have not been playing for quite a long time.
I'm wondering what is his range considering he flats a 3bet pf. pocket pairs up to JJ ? some suited connectors ?

And i see no point in calling, so fold or shove ?

please don't fold

ahahahah

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? are you seriously asking a question about complete fish range in limp cold call 3bet pot? you have not played for a long time indeed

yea stick it in

I shoved. But more as an old reflex, and I just wanted to think a bit more about it and don't do "I have an overpair in 3bet pot so I shove". And I do think that wondering what people cold call a 3bet with is interesting.

he showed up with aces didn't he

I don't care what he shows up with, I care about his range. And i do think that it is usefull, because my range is not only QQ, and I want to think what I would do in the same spot but with diferent hands.
I should not have asked whether it was a shove or fold, but with what hands should I shove with.

On November 18 2012 12:52 kingpowa wrote: I shoved. But more as an old reflex, and I just wanted to think a bit more about it and don't do "I have an overpair in 3bet pot so I shove". And I do think that wondering what people cold call a 3bet with is interesting.

i hear you, just seems like an exercise in futility vs a random who limp-calls 3b utg. unless this is a semi-common spot at 10nl (i assume it's not at any stakes) and you can come to some conclusion based on that, it's a shove just based on the principle that "if he's bad enough to take x action, you have to give him a range wider than y". i'd be a little wary of AA but i'd expect him to have enough other random stuff basically.

Thanks, I feel dumb cause I had not noticed that he had limped. I understand better some of the answers, my bad.
As I almost never cold call a 3bet, I was wondering what people do it with, but in this case, I totally agree that the reasoning "he is bad, so his range is wide, so I def should shove" is correct.