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Handnr: 904401
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, April 24, 06:10:23 ET 2011
Table Robeson II Real Money
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $10.00 USD - VPIP: 30, PFR: 20, 3B: 10, AF: Infinity, Hands: 30
Seat 2: Player2 $24.65 USD - VPIP: 13, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 6.0, Hands: 114
Seat 3: Hero $25.00 USD - VPIP: 24, PFR: 20, 3B: 8, AF: 3.5, Hands: 199194
Seat 4: Player4 $13.90 USD - VPIP: 20, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 1.8, Hands: 79
Seat 5: Player5 $25.25 USD - VPIP: 23, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 1.8, Hands: 226
Seat 6: Player6 $20.22 USD - VPIP: 26, PFR: 18, 3B: 3, AF: 1.1, Hands: 136
Player2 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$0.25 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [JdJh ]
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 raises [$0.65 USD]
Hero calls [$0.50 USD]

Flop (Pot : $1.40)

   5sQdTh
Player2 checks
Hero bets [$1.10 USD]
Player2 raises [$2.75 USD]
Hero folds
Player2 wins $1.65 USD
Player2 wins $3.52 USD from main pot

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 24 2011 06:46. Posts 15163

Ok what the hell...
Is this like always nuts from a tight guy?
Should I assume his betting range is weaker when he does this presumably with nuts?
Is bluffing like this good and why should I do it?

I don't understand c/r as PFR at all, is there any book/vid article that focuses on it?

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Almebeast   Sweden. Apr 24 2011 07:57. Posts 797

Usually nuts in my experience, but I dont really understand what ppls reasons for c/r as PFR are either. I never do it myself.

I saw you writing somewhere else that not c/r-ing as PFR leaves you unbalanced. Why is that? If you never c/r then you dont have a c/r-range to balance and you should be able to balance your betting and checking ranges.

After all is said and done, more is said than done. 

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 24 2011 09:00. Posts 15163


  On April 24 2011 06:57 Almebeast wrote:
Usually nuts in my experience, but I dont really understand what ppls reasons for c/r as PFR are either. I never do it myself.

I saw you writing somewhere else that not c/r-ing as PFR leaves you unbalanced. Why is that? If you never c/r then you dont have a c/r-range to balance and you should be able to balance your betting and checking ranges.



As in when you check, you either always fold or bluffcatch weak range oop. With me you can pretty much always know that I am weak when I check and you can freely abuse it, it would be nice if a reg knew I don't c/f 100% or fold to barrels of the time.
And you know, doing stuff that people don't expect takes them out of their comfort zone, like this guy did to me, I am pretty sure I would spew some of the time when I am tilted. And it's also a ridiculously cheap bluff, I was quite aggro and he expected me to bet a ton and he had a very tight image, c/r as a bluff is like duper awesome here against me

I'll maybe try it out here and there and see what happens ?

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Almebeast   Sweden. Apr 24 2011 13:03. Posts 797

Until very recently I played just like you describe, with a super weak checking range. In theory you can of course be balanced without c/r-ing but that means you have to c/c with some hands that can stand 3 barrels, which feels pretty meh, so c/r-ing might be a good idea I guess. Good luck.

After all is said and done, more is said than done. 

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 24 2011 13:14. Posts 15163

Yeah and you know...even when I don't do it I want to know what the hell it means when other people do

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