with that much invested you cant fold here imo

Ya. Never ever.

I think its an obvious fold but I was wondering about betting turn, I figure his turn range looks like this


Board: Ad Jd 5c 4s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.772% 56.77% 00.00% 1224 0.00 { 5h4h }
Hand 1: 43.228% 43.23% 00.00% 932 0.00 { AA, JJ, 55, AJs+, ATo+ }


so ya

made my reply afterwards

guess I'm totally off, what's up with that

according to stove it an an obvious fold when he raises if he doesn't raise any 1pair hands (AK, AQ), cuz I have 5% equity.

i don't even think i bluffraise vs that flop size

and pretty sure he def can have 1 pair hands why wouldnt he play ak like this

Dude the board is double fd and you got 2 pair and 3:1 pot odds on your call. You have to call 100%.

Well I figured these guys are pretty nitty and my hand looks better than 1 pair, so he wouldn't raise AK on turn wrong I suppose...

Maybe I should fold flop 100% of the time? Thought my hand looked mighty though..


I'm sure maynard is right here.. maybe I don't give them enough credit for being able to raise non-made monsters here. I meant to post my notes on this guy tho, it is kind of what made my decision on turn..

tehkitteh
-flat flat my sqz on his utg, snapfold 882r
-bvb float KJs on 852r, snap 2/3rd pot Ar when I x,x rvr J
-200bb 3b JJ sb v co, cb J22ss, 1/2 pot turn 3s, shove over raise
-flats QQ on btn v my co, c c J226r, x behind 8r

I felt like from these notes he is one of those guys that is always going to choose to try and showdown 1pair hands even if he has AK w fd here

FPS is ur worst enemy

I don't even know dude. I just don't know if you should be putting yourself in spots where folding 2 pair on double flush boards w/ 3:1 odds is a good. If its a good spot to fold then something else is wrong.

Not trying to just be argumentative exactly just trying to give all the info that I had, which I forgot to give when I 1st posted hand.

thanks for replies..

suppose I will fold flop.. seems like I should just fold preflop then.. idk.. just trying to play poker well.

Na I think its fine. You probably don't have to play those edges and if you do i think its fine. I just don't think you can fold the turn after betting. Too much money in and hand too strong. I'm sure he showed up with JJ or AA or something.

repping a super narrow range on the button on a board that slams UTG's range in the face

mmmmmmmmmm, maybe not the best idea

ic.

gororok true, probably shouldn't do this with the jack/second broadway up there even if he cbets 100% of his preflop range

then i would probably fold preflop

i think this is to fancy, with tight soild play you should be able to crush nl50 easy.