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Handnr: 4199
Submitted by : Daut

PokerStars Game #3520556384: Hold'em Limit ($2/$4) - 2006/01/03 - 11:15:58 (ET)
Table 'Hammonia' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: JohnD13 ($120 in chips)
Seat 4: Daut44 ($235 in chips)
Seat 6: skill_vacuum ($54 in chips)
skill_vacuum: posts small blind $1
JohnD13: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Daut44 AhQh]
Daut44: raises $2 to $4
skill_vacuum: raises $2 to $6
JohnD13: folds
Daut44: calls $2
*** FLOP *** 2hKh4c]
skill_vacuum: bets $2
Daut44: calls $2
*** TURN *** 2hKh4c5c]
skill_vacuum: bets $4
Daut44: calls $4
*** RIVER *** 2hKh4c5c8h]
skill_vacuum: bets $4
Daut44: raises $4 to $8
skill_vacuum: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Daut44: shows AhQh] (a flush, Ace high)
skill_vacuum: shows JsJh] (a pair of Jacks)
Daut44 collected $41 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $42 | Rake $1
Board 2hKh4c5c8h]
Seat 3: JohnD13 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Daut44 (button) showed AhQh] and won ($41) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: skill_vacuum (small blind) showed JsJh] and lost with a pair of Jacks

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Daut    United States. Jan 03 2006 10:01. Posts 8955

Submitted by : Daut

PokerStars Game #3520556384: Hold'em Limit ($2/$4) - 2006/01/03 - 11:15:58 (ET)
Table 'Hammonia' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: JohnD13 ($120 in chips)
Seat 4: Daut44 ($235 in chips)
Seat 6: skill_vacuum ($54 in chips)
skill_vacuum: posts small blind $1
JohnD13: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Daut44 AhQh]
Daut44: raises $2 to $4
skill_vacuum: raises $2 to $6
JohnD13: folds
Daut44: calls $2
*** FLOP *** 2hKh4c]
skill_vacuum: bets $2
Daut44: calls $2
*** TURN *** 2hKh4c5c]
skill_vacuum: bets $4
Daut44: calls $4
*** RIVER *** 2hKh4c5c8h]
skill_vacuum: bets $4
Daut44: raises $4 to $8
skill_vacuum: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Daut44: shows AhQh] (a flush, Ace high)
skill_vacuum: shows JsJh] (a pair of Jacks)
Daut44 collected $41 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $42 | Rake $1
Board 2hKh4c5c8h]
Seat 3: JohnD13 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Daut44 (button) showed AhQh] and won ($41) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: skill_vacuum (small blind) showed JsJh] and lost with a pair of Jacks

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NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

Taveren   United States. Jan 03 2006 09:27. Posts 121

I think your play is much too tight. In my opinion you should have reraised once more every street: PF, flop, turn.

you might can get him to fold lower PP, AQ, mid pair, etc... and you can always catch your outs if he doesnt fold...so raise it up!

 Last edit: 03/01/2006 09:30

Arya   United States. Jan 03 2006 09:53. Posts 1631

reraise the flop here bigballs

if you hit on the turn and he checks to you, your bet doesn't indicate flush, so he will probably pay you off

if you don't hit, you can probably check behind and see a free river, or bet and try and push him off a hand, etc

since the flop is only 1/2 the turn bet, you can play a lot looser on it... if you plan on calling a turn bet anyway, you might as well reraise the flop because the extra $2 is worth it to disguise your hand

in FL, especially shorthanded, i tend to play my draws VERY strongly, because you generally want to give them as many opportunities to fold as possible and it does wonders for table image... sure the variance is high but you get paid off nicely on all your tptk and shit, esp once you showdown a missed draw or two

 Last edit: 03/01/2006 09:58

Daut    United States. Jan 03 2006 10:05. Posts 8955

if i raise flop and he calls then checks turn, do i give myself free card or bet? if he reraises, should i cap to represent a lot of strength or just call?
what hand range should i put him on if he reraises?

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

Nazgul    Netherlands. Jan 03 2006 10:05. Posts 7080

shorthanded limit should be a game of agression I agree

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

Arya   United States. Jan 03 2006 10:14. Posts 1631

id probably give myself a free card on the turn if he calls/checks, but its your read on the guy too... is he capable of folding QQ or JJ (hands that he could three bet with but fold here) on the turn if you fire again?

if he 3-bets the flop after your reraise, capping helps narrow his hand range (ie if he calls your cap and bets out on the turn its highly likely he has AK KK AA). if he flat calls your cap and then checks, that's perfect, take the free card if you don't hit.

basically i use the flop to get as much information as possible. i pretty much don't care about it because the bet amounts are so small relative to the pot and the turn/river. if reraising instead of calling makes your turn and river play just a little more accurate, it's worth it.

 Last edit: 03/01/2006 10:17

Taveren   United States. Jan 03 2006 11:59. Posts 121

i'd cap it on every street if i could. no u don't want free cards. u want to bet to give him chance of folding. your draw is VERY strong. potentially 2 overs, flush, str8 draw. lots of outs if he doesnt fold.


Casper...   Canada. Jan 03 2006 13:17. Posts 2804

as played you have ace high on turn and the only way you can win is to hit
terrible

FEAD FEAN WDLTH 

coreyw709   Canada. Jan 03 2006 13:41. Posts 359

Good to see you are playing many different games besides NLHE.

I actually like just calling the raise pre-flop it conceals your hand quite well. And you have position on him anyway. So you are in real good shape. In limit holdem they are going to make a continuation bet 100% of the time on the flop if they raised and are first to act, so I would re-raise here for a free card on the turn.

In this case he would probably re-raise you again seeing on how he had a powerfull hand, but then you would have more information on his hand. Se that is a good thing even though you have to call another bet to see the river. (Which in my opinion you should do 100% of the time at that point.)

You are 38% to win at the turn and you are facing a bet of 4$ into a 20$ pot.
Good to see you finding some luck for once.
Cheers.

-commented on your Omaha AA67 hand as well.

Give nothing, but take from them Everything. 

 

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