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Handnr: 35220
Submitted by : Daut

PokerStars Game #5118047575: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2006/06/01 - 10:36:38 (ET)
Table 'Mentor' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Daut44 ($600 in chips)
Seat 2: fixedset ($905.10 in chips)
Seat 3: TAMIRUSH ($757.25 in chips)
Seat 4: jinsheng ($1049.10 in chips)
Seat 5: DEEKASH ($451.50 in chips)
Seat 7: ImUrPapi ($606.55 in chips)
Seat 8: utreg ($591 in chips)
Seat 9: Fat Boy 44 ($603 in chips)
Fat Boy 44: posts small blind $3
Daut44: posts big blind $6

Holecards
Dealt to Daut44 4s8s
fixedset: folds
TAMIRUSH: calls $6
jinsheng: calls $6
DEEKASH: calls $6
ImUrPapi: folds
utreg: folds
Fat Boy 44: calls $3
Daut44 said, "od"
tspkd is disconnected
Daut44: checks

Flop (Pot : $30)

   3s6c5s
Fat Boy 44: checks
Daut44: bets $24
TAMIRUSH: folds
jinsheng: calls $24
DEEKASH: calls $24
Fat Boy 44: raises $126 to $150
Daut44: calls $126
jinsheng: folds
DEEKASH: calls $126

Turn (Pot : $504)

   3s6c5sJd
Fat Boy 44: bets $447 and is all-in
Daut44: calls $444 and is all-in
DEEKASH: folds

River (Pot : $1398)

   3s6c5sJdJh

Showdown
Fat Boy 44: shows 4c2c (a straight, Deuce to Six)
Daut44: mucks hand
Fat Boy 44 collected $1389 from pot

Summary
Total pot $1392 | Rake $3
Board  3s6c5sJdJh
Seat 1: Daut44 (big blind) mucked 4s8s
Seat 2: fixedset folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: TAMIRUSH folded on the Flop
Seat 4: jinsheng folded on the Flop
Seat 5: DEEKASH folded on the Turn
Seat 7: ImUrPapi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: utreg (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Fat Boy 44 (small blind) showed 4c2c and won ($1389) with a straight, Deuce to Six

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Daut    United States. Jun 01 2006 08:46. Posts 8955

Submitted by : Daut

PokerStars Game #5118047575: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2006/06/01 - 10:36:38 (ET)
Table 'Mentor' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Daut44 ($600 in chips)
Seat 2: fixedset ($905.10 in chips)
Seat 3: TAMIRUSH ($757.25 in chips)
Seat 4: jinsheng ($1049.10 in chips)
Seat 5: DEEKASH ($451.50 in chips)
Seat 7: ImUrPapi ($606.55 in chips)
Seat 8: utreg ($591 in chips)
Seat 9: Fat Boy 44 ($603 in chips)
Fat Boy 44: posts small blind $3
Daut44: posts big blind $6

Holecards
Dealt to Daut44 4s8s
fixedset: folds
TAMIRUSH: calls $6
jinsheng: calls $6
DEEKASH: calls $6
ImUrPapi: folds
utreg: folds
Fat Boy 44: calls $3
Daut44 said, "od"
tspkd is disconnected
Daut44: checks

Flop (Pot : $30)

   3s6c5s
Fat Boy 44: checks
Daut44: bets $24
TAMIRUSH: folds
jinsheng: calls $24
DEEKASH: calls $24
Fat Boy 44: raises $126 to $150
Daut44: calls $126
jinsheng: folds
DEEKASH: calls $126

Turn (Pot : $504)

   3s6c5sJd
Fat Boy 44: bets $447 and is all-in
Daut44: calls $444 and is all-in
DEEKASH: folds

River (Pot : $1398)

   3s6c5sJdJh

Showdown
Fat Boy 44: shows 4c2c (a straight, Deuce to Six)
Daut44: mucks hand
Fat Boy 44 collected $1389 from pot

Summary
Total pot $1392 | Rake $3
Board  3s6c5sJdJh
Seat 1: Daut44 (big blind) mucked 4s8s
Seat 2: fixedset folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: TAMIRUSH folded on the Flop
Seat 4: jinsheng folded on the Flop
Seat 5: DEEKASH folded on the Turn
Seat 7: ImUrPapi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: utreg (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Fat Boy 44 (small blind) showed 4c2c and won ($1389) with a straight, Deuce to Six

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NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

Daut    United States. Jun 01 2006 08:40. Posts 8955

thought about this one for a long time

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

Daut    United States. Jun 01 2006 08:47. Posts 8955

i find this hand fairly interesting.
preflop/original flop play i think are standard.
calling/pushing vs his 126 raise are both options
calling/folding turn are both options

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

tomson    Poland. Jun 01 2006 08:51. Posts 1982

Considering the money in the pot I think this is a push on flop. You're almost even against a straight, 40-60 against a set and there's probably some fold equity against 333.

Peace of mind cant be bought. 

Daut    United States. Jun 01 2006 08:53. Posts 8955

plus possibly cleaning my flush outs against dee

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

pooper-scooper   United States. Jun 01 2006 09:05. Posts 1127

your equity is much higher on the flop, so I say push there.

Not sure about calling that turn.

PS congrats on playing 600 nl, very nice!

Edit: deleted all the rest of my posts cause I'm a moron.

Good... Bad... Im the guy with the Gun.Last edit: 01/06/2006 12:08

pooper-scooper   United States. Jun 01 2006 09:09. Posts 1127

Good... Bad... Im the guy with the Gun.Last edit: 01/06/2006 12:10

Daut    United States. Jun 01 2006 09:10. Posts 8955

i figured 32:13 v set
32:12 + 3 to tie against 24
32:11 vs 47

was slightly -ev v set/47, was +EV v 24

so i called for image considerations cause the -ev v a set was miniscule

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, DautLast edit: 01/06/2006 09:12

pooper-scooper   United States. Jun 01 2006 09:51. Posts 1127

Good... Bad... Im the guy with the Gun.Last edit: 01/06/2006 12:11

Daut    United States. Jun 01 2006 10:11. Posts 8955

15 outs normally
2 of them pair the board
13 outs

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

Daut    United States. Jun 01 2006 10:14. Posts 8955

so its 31:13 pardon me
29:12, 3 to tie
33:11

44 total cards cause im accounting for his 2

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, DautLast edit: 01/06/2006 10:15

pooper-scooper   United States. Jun 01 2006 10:45. Posts 1127

My bad.

Good... Bad... Im the guy with the Gun.Last edit: 01/06/2006 12:14

WiseAdvice   Canada. Jun 01 2006 11:32. Posts 881

thats an expensive turn call imo

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The72o   Zimbabwe. Jun 01 2006 12:37. Posts 6112

yeah, what about turn?

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Rhaegar    Bulgaria. Jun 01 2006 14:23. Posts 2586

If by calling you will commit yourself to calling the turn, then folding flop seems best.

One very suspicious player 

DaEm0niCuS   United States. Jun 01 2006 14:50. Posts 3292

just fold turn I guess. specially with that 3rd guy on the flop he could easily have 2 of ur outs.

If you wana do something for image wouldnt pushing a draw be better then fishing for one?


Nazgul    Netherlands. Jun 01 2006 15:03. Posts 7080

you flat call flop so you can fold turn, because you are convinced he has a monster

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

Rhaegar    Bulgaria. Jun 01 2006 15:04. Posts 2586

Yeah, on the turn you risk an overcall by a higher flush draw, which is damn ugly. Just fold.
You should also try to avoid break even bets, they're you're only increasing your variance. Since you can't win by them, you shouldn't really bother.

One very suspicious player 

Patriot.dlk   Sweden. Jun 01 2006 16:24. Posts 51

Fold turn


Daut    United States. Jun 01 2006 16:29. Posts 8955


  On June 01 2006 14:03 Nazgul wrote:
you flat call flop so you can fold turn, because you are convinced he has a monster



true, but the other caller on the flop gave me a better price on the turn.

yeah i guess folding turn is correct

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

cariadon   Estonia. Jun 01 2006 17:23. Posts 4019

Good discussion. Learned a lot.


Casper...   Canada. Jun 01 2006 18:52. Posts 2804

i don't think it makes much of a difference how this hand is played, although jamming flop is really ugly against what's giving us action on this flop, and we have no way of determining FE (if any).

and the turn is a call imo. barely.

FEAD FEAN WDLTH 

 

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