how can he call that with the pf action... sigh

How can he not? I dont really like your line, doesnt make much sense

ouch

lol, I'd snap call KK here all day

I think you should bet flop 100% here

On December 21 2007 04:10 SakiSaki wrote: How can he not? I dont really like your line, doesnt make much sense

i play a straight or a fullhouse the same.


I am not betting a monster when he checks the flop

yeah you are right, you're pf action really smells like low suited connectors. 34 was the range, but i think with overpair on this board would be +EV to call with so many missed draws.

On December 21 2007 04:11 SakiSaki wrote: I think you should bet flop 100% here

what for... he either missed and he is CF or he is CR.

and yea obv my pf play screams PP or SC and both probably hit that flop hard.

you dont protect with AA on this board this deep? Sounds like you give villian way to much power over the potsize

If you are willing to go broke I think shoving over a c/r on the flop is way better than your line

On December 21 2007 04:13 SakiSaki wrote: you dont protect with AA on this board this deep? Sounds like you give villian way to much power over the potsize

AA??? whjat the fuck are you talking about he is the 3 bettor pf after i flat called a previous raise.

read the hand again plz -.-

Fine, if you never flatcall with AA here pf then why dont you protect/build pot with a set/2pair?

I mean if you want to stack an overpair desperately looking for control over the potsize you definitely need to bet flop.

On December 21 2007 04:17 SakiSaki wrote: Fine, if you never flatcall with AA here pf then why dont you protect/build pot with a set/2pair?

read the hand AGAIN.

On December 21 2007 04:17 SakiSaki wrote: why dont you protect/build pot with a set/2pair?

some fish opened and i flat called and the deepstacked squeezed, original raiser folds and i call.... i have no idea wtf you are talkin about AA.


Yeah i can C-bet and shove over, stack sizes are good to do that but i probably have 0 FE if he CR that flop... its still an OK play. but also it is to see a turn

On December 21 2007 04:05 Baal wrote: how can he call that with the pf action... sigh

Because people play missed draws like this sometimes?

On December 21 2007 04:19 SakiSaki wrote: Show nested quote + On December 21 2007 04:17 SakiSaki wrote: why dont you protect/build pot with a set/2pair?

i dont bet with a straight or a set because he checks flop... its 70% CF 30% CR

yes but after you chose to take the passive line I think you should give up because your line is going to be really strange. You cant have the cake and eat it too

im sorry baal but i think you fail here

those stats are pretty irrelevant given this situation.

On December 21 2007 04:23 SakiSaki wrote: yes but after you chose to take the passive line I think you should give up because your line is going to be really strange. You cant have the cake and eat it too

my line is consistent with fullhouse and straight, i have one 90% of the time

maybe to you they are but most likely not to him. I mean look at the hand again, it looks sooo much like a missed draw

lol baalaments

This line is not consistent with how 90% of all players would play full house/straight here so without significant history I think this is spewy.

:< thx for the imput saki