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Handnr: 21844
Submitted by : mad1337nes

PokerStars Game #4570598891: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2006/04/09 - 09:21:58 (ET)
Table 'Freda' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: chrisT18 ($9.80 in chips)
Seat 2: TEXRNDER ($11.80 in chips)
Seat 4: syuen101 ($10.35 in chips)
Seat 5: chrisleto ($19 in chips)
Seat 6: MincK ($4.15 in chips)
chrisleto: posts small blind $0.05
MincK: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards
Dealt to chrisT18 Qd8d
chrisT18: calls $0.10
TEXRNDER: calls $0.10
syuen101: folds
chrisleto: calls $0.05
MincK: checks

Flop (Pot : $0.4)

   Jd9c2c
chrisleto: checks
MincK: checks
chrisT18: checks
chappy 22 has returned
TEXRNDER: bets $0.10
chrisleto: folds
MincK: calls $0.10
chrisT18: calls $0.10

Turn (Pot : $0.7)

   Jd9c2c3d
MincK: checks
chrisT18: checks
TEXRNDER: bets $0.20
MincK: folds
chrisT18: calls $0.20

River (Pot : $1.1)

   Jd9c2c3d5d
chrisT18: checks
TEXRNDER: bets $0.50
chrisT18: raises $1.50 to $2
TEXRNDER: raises $1.50 to $3.50
chrisT18: raises $5.50 to $9
TEXRNDER: calls $5.50

Showdown
chrisT18: shows Qd8d (a flush, Queen high)
TEXRNDER: mucks hand
chrisT18 collected $18.15 from pot

Summary
Total pot $19.10 | Rake $0.95
Board  Jd9c2c3d5d
Seat 1: chrisT18 showed Qd8d and won ($18.15) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 2: TEXRNDER mucked 2h2d
Seat 4: syuen101 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: chrisleto (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: MincK (big blind) folded on the Turn

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mad1337nes   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:27. Posts 2414

here you go noman.

practically no odds again, and look what happens

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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Apr 09 2006 07:48. Posts 14026

just because you won doesnt make it good play.


nomanirvana   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:53. Posts 2523

You had alot better odds here and he had a hand that really pays good thing the board didnt pair though.


mad1337nes   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:54. Posts 2414

.40 : $18.15


good play no matter how you look at it


nomanirvana   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:57. Posts 2523

this is different than the J10 hand though, a set pays off flushes way more than pairs


mad1337nes   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:57. Posts 2414


  On April 09 2006 06:53 nomanirvana wrote:
You had alot better odds here and he had a hand that really pays good thing the board didnt pair though.


thank you captain obvious


mad1337nes   United States. Apr 09 2006 07:59. Posts 2414


  On April 09 2006 06:57 nomanirvana wrote:
this is different than the J10 hand though, a set pays off flushes way more than pairs



2 pair pays off to runner runner with my maniac img.


and this hand still uses the "runner runner 4th flush draw theory"


Karma    Australia. Apr 09 2006 08:05. Posts 3538


  On April 09 2006 06:48 byrnesam wrote:
just because you won doesnt make it good play.

WRONG.
RESULTS = PROOF.

fish mentality 

Mig    United States. Apr 09 2006 08:19. Posts 1597

Mad for the love of god stop trying to convince yourself that this was a good play. This play is just really really terrible. Especially the river check.

 Last edit: 09/04/2006 08:20

mad1337nes   United States. Apr 09 2006 08:26. Posts 2414

I never said it was a good or correct play... I just posted to show how I (usually) stack micro fish, giving ideas for others so not everyone just sits there and lets PT control their every action.

Then the tight passive pussy, hateing bitches tried to act all high and mighty and act like its the worst play ever seen, ever.

Admit it, its not as bad as some darkexpert shit


Mig    United States. Apr 09 2006 08:30. Posts 1597


  On April 09 2006 07:26 mad1337nes wrote:
I never said it was a good or correct play... I just posted to show how I (usually) stack micro fish, giving ideas for others so not everyone just sits there and lets PT control their every action.

Then the tight passive pussy, hateing bitches tried to act all high and mighty and act like its the worst play ever seen, ever.

Admit it, its not as bad as some darkexpert shit



No your play is terrible. Do you realize you attempted to check raise the river, do you not understand how awful this is? If he has like kj, qj there is a good chance he just checks behind and suddenly you made nothing after chasing a gutshot and runner flush draw. And if he is strong and has something like a set you are going to get it in without the river check raise. And this isant even the only thing wrong with your hand. This play is terrible it reminds me exactly of how dark plays.

 Last edit: 09/04/2006 08:51

ShardPhoenix   Australia. Apr 09 2006 08:36. Posts 10

The worst part is calling UTG with Q8s.

edit: the check raise on the river is ok if you know the guy is really aggressive and will try to take it down with a weakish hand, otherwise just bet normally. In this case the flush might be too scary even for an aggressive player though, since you were obviously drawing at something.

 Last edit: 09/04/2006 08:39

Mig    United States. Apr 09 2006 08:46. Posts 1597

He is checkraising an unraised pot where the guy has bet min and then .20 there is no way check raise river can be right here.


ShardPhoenix   Australia. Apr 09 2006 08:59. Posts 10

Min bets can mean a big hand at $10 nl because people are too afraid of betting too much and having the opponent fold. Still I agree it's not the best play.

 Last edit: 09/04/2006 09:00

PanoRaMa   United States. Apr 09 2006 11:21. Posts 1655


  On April 09 2006 07:59 ShardPhoenix wrote:
Min bets can mean a big hand at $10 nl because people are too afraid of betting too much and having the opponent fold. Still I agree it's not the best play.



in that case you really wouldn't need to check-raise if villain is going to push his stack anyway with that big hand right?

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