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Submitted by : HeRoS)eNGagE

***** 888poker Hand History for Game 637700940 *****
$0.25/$0.50 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 18 05 2022 23:03:58
Table Davao 6 Max Real Money
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 1: Bullii $159.66
Seat 4: Cuechin $50.25
Seat 7: Hero $130.18
Cuechin posts small blind [$0.25]
Hero posts big blind [$0.50]

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [9hQh ]
Bullii raises [$1.25]
Cuechin folds
Hero raises [$5.50]
Bullii calls [$4.75]
** Dealing flop ** [4h,Jh3h ]
Hero bets [$7]
Bullii calls [$7]
** Dealing turn ** Qd ]
Hero bets [$14]
Bullii calls [$14]
** Dealing river ** 5c ]
Hero checks
Bullii bets [$132.66]

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HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. May 20 2022 03:44. Posts 10894

Pot is 50$ on the river

What hands should he be doing this ?

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lostaccount   Canada. May 20 2022 03:54. Posts 4916

i snap call its either flush or air n u beat some flush maybe he does it with a set

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lostaccount   Canada. May 20 2022 03:55. Posts 4916

but 300bb pretty sick river jam but i can not fold in 3 handed with 3rd nuts

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RiKD    United States. May 20 2022 05:01. Posts 7454

I don't know if I have answers but I have questions.

Can he have like Ah5x? Ah4x? He probably shouldn't have these hands.

I bet he has the 56hh and a lot of gappers. I think that is why I would bet flop and turn big. As played I feel like most at small stakes get a bit scared in big pots like this but probability wise maybe this guy doesn't?

That seems like a big overbet. There is 53 in there on the river and he is betting the ole 132.66.

He's going to play the AhTs like this?

He just might. He just might. AhTs, AhTc, AhTd.

Ah5h, Ah6h, Ah7h, Ah8h, Ah9h, AhTh, AhQh, some AhKh. But he might not play all these hands that way.

You gotta call 132.66 to win 185.66. You gotta be right 71% is that right? I forget how to do math.

There's gotta be other stuff he bluffs with?

But, we haven't considered Kh6h+ or if he plays it like this.

There's more hands in there too surely I am just running out of steam.

Thank you for posting this. Interesting hand for me.


lostaccount   Canada. May 20 2022 05:06. Posts 4916

he can have any axhh

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RiKD    United States. May 20 2022 06:07. Posts 7454

I am overly tired.

You block AhQh and Ah9h..... and most AhKh 4-bets. @100 bbs PiO 4bets 100%.


lostaccount   Canada. May 20 2022 06:31. Posts 4916

a2hh a5-8 at-ajh

akhh he mgiht 4b

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lostaccount   Canada. May 20 2022 06:32. Posts 4916

7 combo for sure akhh give it .5

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lostaccount   Canada. May 20 2022 06:32. Posts 4916

kxhh is possible i probbaly flat 3b w kxhh

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hiems   United States. May 20 2022 14:22. Posts 2919

Hard 2 know.

1 different approach you can take in a bluffcatch spot like this is the "mass data" approach where u datamine millions of hands to see what does this overbet mean when fish does it and when a reg does it.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]Last edit: 20/05/2022 14:23

hiems   United States. May 20 2022 14:33. Posts 2919


  On May 20 2022 04:01 RiKD wrote:
I don't know if I have answers but I have questions.

Can he have like Ah5x? Ah4x? He probably shouldn't have these hands.

I bet he has the 56hh and a lot of gappers. I think that is why I would bet flop and turn big. As played I feel like most at small stakes get a bit scared in big pots like this but probability wise maybe this guy doesn't?

That seems like a big overbet. There is 53 in there on the river and he is betting the ole 132.66.

He's going to play the AhTs like this?

He just might. He just might. AhTs, AhTc, AhTd.

Ah5h, Ah6h, Ah7h, Ah8h, Ah9h, AhTh, AhQh, some AhKh. But he might not play all these hands that way.

You gotta call 132.66 to win 185.66. You gotta be right 71% is that right? I forget how to do math.

There's gotta be other stuff he bluffs with?

But, we haven't considered Kh6h+ or if he plays it like this.

There's more hands in there too surely I am just running out of steam.

Thank you for posting this. Interesting hand for me.



Your understanding of pot odds and mdf is incorrect. Correcting stuff like this is more important than trying 2 act cool and say "pio does this or that".

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Liquid`Drone   Norway. May 20 2022 15:02. Posts 3050

you did forget how to do math rikd. it's calling ~100 to win ~260. Excluding rake, you never need more than 50% to warrant a call.

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gawdawaful   Canada. May 20 2022 16:14. Posts 9002

I had a response but guess it didn't go through. I think as played we just close our eyes and call.
But as far as flop sizing goes, I believe this is a WA/WB type spot on the flop where villain has significantly more suited hands in his range than offsuit. So given that, 1/3rd psb on the flop is prob better. Turn then becomes something like 90-125% psb imo

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RiKD    United States. May 21 2022 03:41. Posts 7454

So, we need to have the best hand 38.5%?

What else is he bluffing besides the AhTx? There are only 3 combos of that versus many combos of AhXh, KhXh. And, maybe it does not have to be said I don't see any worse hands value betting this spot. Th9h is a crazy shove on river. If he can have some of the worse KhXh maybe he can also have 3 combos of Ah8x. We have to find more bluffs if this is going to be a call. (I'm not saying this isn't possible). Maybe he has KhTx or JxTh. But, we need more bluff combos or else it's a fold.


gawdawaful   Canada. May 21 2022 07:34. Posts 9002

I mean this is pretty damn near the top of our range. Just because we cant theoretically find enough bluffs in villains range based on how we perceive a hand should be played, does not equate to villain not having enough bluffs in this spot, or villain doesnt do this with enough value hands that we beat. Like who knows what hes thinking?

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RiKD    United States. May 21 2022 07:45. Posts 7454

I'm just devil's advocate here.

There is definitely the issue of Qh9h being at the VERY top of our range and what that means. Remember I forgot how to calculate pot odds. I had to look up what mdf means. I'm just trying to learn.

Another question is do we shove river here instead of chk with Kh5h?


hiems   United States. May 21 2022 09:46. Posts 2919

Lol cmon if u guys want to actually try to piece through the hand op needs to provide info at least if he is reg or fish or whatever. Y ru guys trying to piece together wtf is going on with 0 info given on villain thats pretty huge in this hand.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]Last edit: 21/05/2022 09:49

lostaccount   Canada. May 21 2022 11:00. Posts 4916


  On May 21 2022 06:45 RiKD wrote:
I'm just devil's advocate here.

There is definitely the issue of Qh9h being at the VERY top of our range and what that means. Remember I forgot how to calculate pot odds. I had to look up what mdf means. I'm just trying to learn.

Another question is do we shove river here instead of chk with Kh5h?



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gawdawaful   Canada. May 22 2022 14:06. Posts 9002


  On May 21 2022 08:46 hiems wrote:
Lol cmon if u guys want to actually try to piece through the hand op needs to provide info at least if he is reg or fish or whatever. Y ru guys trying to piece together wtf is going on with 0 info given on villain thats pretty huge in this hand.




Pretty sure GTO means playing your hand/your range of hands without knowing if the other player is reg, fish, loose, aggro, or a cat. Not saying you shouldn't deviate/exploit from there as per your reads but the starting point is theory based

Im only good at poker when I run good 

hiems   United States. May 22 2022 18:32. Posts 2919


  On May 22 2022 13:06 gawdawaful wrote:
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Pretty sure GTO means playing your hand/your range of hands without knowing if the other player is reg, fish, loose, aggro, or a cat. Not saying you shouldn't deviate/exploit from there as per your reads but the starting point is theory based


Ya thats gto.

Agre that can be a starting point but idk there are spots where gto isn't great. This spot might be one of them cause I don't think alot of ppl are balanced here. River spots u can easily data mine so if u are a person that isn't lazy (like me) I feel like this is a better approach here and should go along side by side with gto here with the caveat that this isn't a high free spot but just in theory thats probably a better approach.

The way this hand played tho agree our hand is insanely strong.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]Last edit: 22/05/2022 18:43

gawdawaful   Canada. May 22 2022 23:10. Posts 9002

I mean you could be right in that this is a spot where people underbluff at these stakes. I dont play a lot of cash so I'm not sure

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RiKD    United States. May 23 2022 00:35. Posts 7454

I will admit that hiems is right as far as no reads. It's possible he shows up with the 5d6d or Td9d or even the KdTd. He may also never bluff this spot.


Oddeye   Canada. May 23 2022 15:32. Posts 5060

You have no read there so I would say he can bluff sometimes there. I would call, what does GTO says?

Sad thing is that I learned that people actually do underbluff alot and I made alot of wrong calls. I would pretty much not fold in a 3b pot tho(I think there are slightly more bluff), if it's a setup I think they get my monies.

Result?


hiems   United States. May 23 2022 16:41. Posts 2919


  On May 22 2022 23:35 RiKD wrote:
I will admit that hiems is right as far as no reads. It's possible he shows up with the 5d6d or Td9d or even the KdTd. He may also never bluff this spot.



Lol @ "I will admit"

U need ppl to hold ur hand like a baby to even get on ignition...u don't even know pot odds lol y do u think u r some poker champ

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]Last edit: 23/05/2022 17:46

RiKD    United States. May 25 2022 00:08. Posts 7454

I am not convinced it was a good idea to put money on Ignition.

I know pot odds I just made a mistake.

I don't think I am some poker champ. I am grinding 10 NL.


lostaccount   Canada. May 25 2022 01:23. Posts 4916

It’s not a good idea to think u gonna make 25-35$ an hour in poker anymore.
If you want to win push ups then it’s a good idea. Rikd go play a 20-30$ tournament once in awhile for some fun but to grind cash game is a bad idea. Poker is dead man

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lostaccount   Canada. May 25 2022 01:24. Posts 4916

Like I said if u want a better life, u can do so many other things to be happier

peace is our desire catch 22 peace sign x 2, my soulmates i admire. love with thrill is fire, God ur powers higher make our dreams we may acquire 

gawdawaful   Canada. May 25 2022 05:35. Posts 9002


  On May 23 2022 15:41 hiems wrote:
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Lol @ "I will admit"

U need ppl to hold ur hand like a baby to even get on ignition...u don't even know pot odds lol y do u think u r some poker champ


This is what I mean about you, by whatever my choice of verbiage was. Take that how you will


  On May 24 2022 23:08 RiKD wrote:
I am not convinced it was a good idea to put money on Ignition.

I know pot odds I just made a mistake.

I don't think I am some poker champ. I am grinding 10 NL.



Hey at least you didn't move to Pennsylvania to come to the same conclusion right?


  On May 25 2022 00:23 lostaccount wrote:
It’s not a good idea to think u gonna make 25-35$ an hour in poker anymore.
If you want to win push ups then it’s a good idea. Rikd go play a 20-30$ tournament once in awhile for some fun but to grind cash game is a bad idea. Poker is dead man



Also, $25-$35/hr isn't the same as $25-$35 a hour 10-15 years ago now too...

Im only good at poker when I run good 

hiems   United States. May 25 2022 13:02. Posts 2919


  On May 25 2022 04:35 gawdawaful wrote:
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This is what I mean about you, by whatever my choice of verbiage was. Take that how you will


  On May 24 2022 23:08 RiKD wrote:
I am not convinced it was a good idea to put money on Ignition.

I know pot odds I just made a mistake.

I don't think I am some poker champ. I am grinding 10 NL.



Hey at least you didn't move to Pennsylvania to come to the same conclusion right?


  On May 25 2022 00:23 lostaccount wrote:
It’s not a good idea to think u gonna make 25-35$ an hour in poker anymore.
If you want to win push ups then it’s a good idea. Rikd go play a 20-30$ tournament once in awhile for some fun but to grind cash game is a bad idea. Poker is dead man



Also, $25-$35/hr isn't the same as $25-$35 a hour 10-15 years ago now too...



Me and rikd have a history kind of like skeletor vs he-man. While u r probably aware of some of it its hard to be immersed in this saga as the ppl in it.

Rikd and his cronie "the dumb loco" has long thrown shade at my poker so yea when rikd comes in here not knowing pot odds and leading with "i will admit hiems" i thought i would add some heat 2 my response and that makes sense to me whether it's fair or not

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

hiems   United States. May 25 2022 13:04. Posts 2919

LoCo!!! Locolo!!

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lostaccount   Canada. May 25 2022 13:59. Posts 4916

Fair enough but to be also fair u throw shades for no reasons too

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hiems   United States. May 25 2022 18:01. Posts 2919


  On May 25 2022 12:59 lostaccount wrote:
Fair enough but to be also fair u throw shades for no reasons too



WHEN

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

lostaccount   Canada. May 25 2022 18:27. Posts 4916

to me. disrespect me

when you have a photographic memory i dont forget but I forgive

peace is our desire catch 22 peace sign x 2, my soulmates i admire. love with thrill is fire, God ur powers higher make our dreams we may acquireLast edit: 25/05/2022 18:55

hiems   United States. May 26 2022 14:23. Posts 2919


  On May 25 2022 17:27 lostaccount wrote:
to me. disrespect me

when you have a photographic memory i dont forget but I forgive



U r a very forgiving man.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

RiKD    United States. May 26 2022 18:13. Posts 7454


  On May 25 2022 00:23 lostaccount wrote:
It’s not a good idea to think u gonna make 25-35$ an hour in poker anymore.
If you want to win push ups then it’s a good idea. Rikd go play a 20-30$ tournament once in awhile for some fun but to grind cash game is a bad idea. Poker is dead man



No, I like the cash games. More fun for me.


RiKD    United States. May 26 2022 18:19. Posts 7454


  On May 25 2022 00:24 lostaccount wrote:
Like I said if u want a better life, u can do so many other things to be happier



Poker is immersive and there is something on the line. As much as I enjoyed Limbo and Inside it's kind of trial and die but there isn't anything really on the line unless I am going for a no death speed run. I am going to die in poker (make -ev plays). The crazy thing is at the table I won't even really know unless I do work away from the table which I also find fun. Going into the lab and finding optimal plays at each decision. No limit is fun because the betting is capped only by the limitations of your stack at the table. It's a fascinating game and I am someone who enjoys games.


RiKD    United States. May 26 2022 18:22. Posts 7454


  On May 25 2022 04:35 gawdawaful wrote:
Show nested quote +



This is what I mean about you, by whatever my choice of verbiage was. Take that how you will


  On May 24 2022 23:08 RiKD wrote:
I am not convinced it was a good idea to put money on Ignition.

I know pot odds I just made a mistake.

I don't think I am some poker champ. I am grinding 10 NL.



Hey at least you didn't move to Pennsylvania to come to the same conclusion right?


  On May 25 2022 00:23 lostaccount wrote:
It’s not a good idea to think u gonna make 25-35$ an hour in poker anymore.
If you want to win push ups then it’s a good idea. Rikd go play a 20-30$ tournament once in awhile for some fun but to grind cash game is a bad idea. Poker is dead man



Also, $25-$35/hr isn't the same as $25-$35 a hour 10-15 years ago now too...



I would be more excited about poker if I lived in PA and had access to PokerStars. Ignition has a lot of issues.


RiKD    United States. May 26 2022 18:40. Posts 7454


  On May 25 2022 12:02 hiems wrote:
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Me and rikd have a history kind of like skeletor vs he-man. While u r probably aware of some of it its hard to be immersed in this saga as the ppl in it.

Rikd and his cronie "the dumb loco" has long thrown shade at my poker so yea when rikd comes in here not knowing pot odds and leading with "i will admit hiems" i thought i would add some heat 2 my response and that makes sense to me whether it's fair or not



Not that it is that difficult for me to admit if you are right I thought I would add that in there to be a little spicy I guess.

I never watched Heman. You are He-man or Skeletor?

Now, that I have put some money online and have been playing some hands I realize how easy it is to catch a poker bug. I don't know if it is the best for you or me to be toiling away playing all these hands piecing them in whenever we can. But, I also wouldn't necessarily classify it as toiling. Just playing when I feel like it is pretty fun. That is something I missed when I was very anti-poker. I am not happy with Ignition but if I were on PokerStars I have a feeling that I would have a better feeling playing. There is also the fact that we will lose probably at least 40% of the time. That is not as fun but if I manage it correctly I'm not really sad about most losing days.

When you make a poker blog you open yourself up to different ideas. I don't think my opinion has changed that much. There are obviously better things we could be doing? But, sometimes there is not much I'd realistically rather be doing than playing poker and I can understand that. My opinion still is that it's very difficult to be a 5ptbb/100 winner at say 200 NL Zoom or 500 NL Zoom with enough hands and that will put you in that $70k - $140k range which is pretty good. I don't want to say it is a pipe dream because with the advent of solvers a lot of hard work away from the tables can reap large rewards but if everyone is proficient at this with the high rake only the poker site wins. It is impossible to study every spot. Mathematically, I don't know what win-rates are possible these days. I know Sauce had a 50k hand sample at 10 BB/100 at 500 NL Zoom in 2021 which I'm not sure if that is different than 10ptbb/100. I am not Sauce though. He was always much better than me at poker.


hiems   United States. May 26 2022 19:28. Posts 2919

i guess im skeletor cause u r the obv white guy lol.

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lostaccount   Canada. May 26 2022 19:35. Posts 4916


  On May 26 2022 17:22 RiKD wrote:
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I would be more excited about poker if I lived in PA and had access to PokerStars. Ignition has a lot of issues.



yea but then u would have to pay rent food etc ur cost of living would be much higher and would u make enough to cover that?

peace is our desire catch 22 peace sign x 2, my soulmates i admire. love with thrill is fire, God ur powers higher make our dreams we may acquire 

lostaccount   Canada. May 26 2022 19:37. Posts 4916


  On May 26 2022 18:28 hiems wrote:
i guess im skeletor cause u r the obv white guy lol.



haha we all are skeleton inside though, all skeleton are white right? this i am not 100% sure cuz hey i have never seen all skeletons

peace is our desire catch 22 peace sign x 2, my soulmates i admire. love with thrill is fire, God ur powers higher make our dreams we may acquireLast edit: 26/05/2022 19:38

RiKD    United States. May 26 2022 22:33. Posts 7454


  On May 26 2022 18:35 lostaccount wrote:
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yea but then u would have to pay rent food etc ur cost of living would be much higher and would u make enough to cover that?



I could write a lot to reply here but the simplest way to look at it is that let's say I crush 10 NL I am still probably only looking at $1,000/month.

I would want a better computer. Best deal would be $1,000. It's possible to get something sick if you know where to look and when.

$5,000 moving costs likely.

6 months living expenses ideal.

It is not a reality.

The reality is that even if I grind up successfully. At some time there will be a point where I am likely losing until I put in enough time in the solver lab. There is a lot I don't know about solvers. There is a lot I don't know about computers. Maybe 50 NL it is worth it to buy a new computer and Pio basic. Maybe that is 25 NL. Maybe that is 100 NL. I don't really know.

If I could make $40,000/yr with out having to super grind hands I would consider it. I'm not sure if that is possible for me. Another thing is what if it's only possible for 1 year? I don't know.


lostaccount   Canada. May 26 2022 22:51. Posts 4916

exactly rikd, ur current situation is better than 80% of the world. we all want better lives but sometimes we just have to be grateful for what we have.

peace is our desire catch 22 peace sign x 2, my soulmates i admire. love with thrill is fire, God ur powers higher make our dreams we may acquire 

KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. May 27 2022 04:43. Posts 1685

I logged in for the first time in I don't know how many years to comment here. I dont play hold'em so much any more but I can't imagine without the solidest of reads that this hand could ever ever be a fold. Surely people can shove for thinner value or be bluffing or spazzing out especially the way the hands played, we've 3 bet bet 2 streets and now checked river and he's jammed like I think we just have to snap call and like I guess we've played it well... now call? (If we're not gonna bet bet check I think I would like to size bigger two streets so we can comfortably jam river).

poker is soooo much easier when you flop setsLast edit: 27/05/2022 04:44

HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. May 27 2022 13:35. Posts 10894

I did snap call, he did exactly like i wanted, but after the hand i started to wonder about his play, his range, etc . wanted to have opinions about what his range should be.


Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 04 2022 01:57. Posts 1616

45 comments? wtf?

overthink much?

snap call, underrepped, u threw the rope, snap and move on, probably win without looking.


hiems   United States. Jun 04 2022 08:05. Posts 2919


  On June 04 2022 00:57 Ryan Neilly wrote:
45 comments? wtf?

overthink much?

snap call, underrepped, u threw the rope, snap and move on, probably win without looking.



Fair enough.

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lostaccount   Canada. Jun 04 2022 09:56. Posts 4916

half of the comments wasnt even about the hands

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ggplz   Sweden. Jun 09 2022 17:05. Posts 16773

wow, so many comments, u are popular Engage.. definitely looks like a re-raise

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lostaccount   Canada. Jun 10 2022 04:16. Posts 4916

Yea ppl like to engage engage

peace is our desire catch 22 peace sign x 2, my soulmates i admire. love with thrill is fire, God ur powers higher make our dreams we may acquireLast edit: 10/06/2022 04:16

KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Jun 20 2022 15:49. Posts 1685

Results?

Don't get me wrong I know what you mean some opponents in some spots can only really have better here if they are absolutely never bluffing for whatever reason and some people you can say wouldn't value shove so big with a lower flush etc. So like if some live old nit who is just super careful and is winning a lot and never really bluffs anyway but definitely not if he is 'up for the day' (would just vbet smaller with lower flushes but then again these kind of guys would probably raise smaller flushes on flop or turn.. I think) then yea you think can correctly fold something like this but you have to absolutely know. Don't know if it's possible online it's too easy to shove and too hard to know players well enough and their current state of mind my opinion

But nowhere near enough information in my opinion to make that read and even if it's still so hard. I don't play holdem much at all just my thoughts.

I like how you played the hand though for sure prob value bets almost all hands he calls with and then for sure can turn a bunch of stuff into bluffs. Maybe some people just never spaz now or don't bluff enough but feels like with this action we are beat very rarely coming to the river, so just too little information to fold.

if he bets a different size on the river are we calling or shoving? I think we should definitely shove over a smallish bet but not so sure about the bigger sizes

poker is soooo much easier when you flop setsLast edit: 20/06/2022 16:07

 

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