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Handnr: 1082465
Submitted by : Stroggoz

PokerStars Zoom Hand #189645609334: Holdem No Limit ($2.50/$5.00) - 2018/08/08 0:18:58 ET
Table Lambda Velorum 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hookz ($545.66 in chips)
Seat 2: gushuang888 ($432.24 in chips)
Seat 3: Stroggos_nz ($1612.44 in chips)
Seat 4: MatrixFire ($1413.21 in chips)
gushuang888: posts small blind $2.50
Stroggos_nz: posts big blind $5

Holecards
Dealt to Stroggos_nz 6d3d
MatrixFire: folds
Hookz: raises $6 to $11
gushuang888: folds
Stroggos_nz: calls $6

Flop (Pot : $24.50)

   3sKsTh
Stroggos_nz: checks
Hookz: bets $12.80
Stroggos_nz: raises $42.20 to $55
Hookz: calls $42.20

Turn (Pot : $134.50)

   3sKsThQs
Stroggos_nz: checks
Hookz: checks

River (Pot : $134.50)

   3sKsThQs8h
Stroggos_nz: bets $39.90
Hookz: raises $120.10 to $160
Stroggos_nz: folds
Uncalled bet ($120.10) returned to Hookz
Hookz collected $212.80 from pot
Hookz: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot $214.30 | Rake $1.50
Board  3sKsThQs8h
Seat 1: Hookz (button) collected ($212.80)
Seat 2: gushuang888 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Stroggos_nz (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 4: MatrixFire folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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ManYac   Poland. Aug 08 2018 11:06. Posts 152

Why are u betting river ? What do U want to fold with this sizing ?

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 Last edit: 08/08/2018 11:06

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Aug 08 2018 11:37. Posts 4402

folding a pair would be nice

supposed to have greenstar not bracelet 

SleepyHead   . Aug 08 2018 16:16. Posts 876

Lol

Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal 

longple    Sweden. Aug 10 2018 09:27. Posts 4466

like it

ive been takeing these lines in all sorts of combinations after one street is checked

did a quick filter just to see all the pots where ive bet river less then 30% and threw in WTSD%

getting 49% folds if my filters are legit (probably not)

In my playing experience it feels like it is a very nice line and bet, it goes thru a ton, and I get tankfolds a decent amount too.

 Last edit: 10/08/2018 09:30

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Aug 11 2018 05:58. Posts 4402

yeah I like my line although i think my x/r on flop may have been a mistake. only thing is most of the decent regs will be checking back strong on turn here, perhaps with small flushes somewhat often.

Your filters seem wrong to me.

why did you filter river bet raise = false? If you take out the times we br the river, we are taking out the times we got raised on the river after betting, since br is when we 3bet river it implies we got raised after betting. In other words their fold % goes up when you filter this.

In any case, pio folds 27% to my 1/3 size bet...and it still likes my 1/3 size bet. So even if the correct filtering is 40% fold it seems my play is printing.

supposed to have greenstar not braceletLast edit: 11/08/2018 06:06

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Aug 11 2018 06:04. Posts 4402

hmm, pio basically agrees with my play here. except i made a couple small mistakes. 43sdd x/r flop, but 63s does not x/r flop. okay, small mistake. but i got the sizing right. The actual bigger mistake i made was that i'm supposed to barrel off 1/3 size with 90% of my range on turn, and including 63s at near 100% frequency. however, if it goes x/x, then betting 1/3 on river with 63s is the highest ev option, beating out checking by an ev of 1BB in chips.

supposed to have greenstar not bracelet 

longple    Sweden. Aug 11 2018 16:27. Posts 4466


  On August 11 2018 04:58 Stroggoz wrote:
yeah I like my line although i think my x/r on flop may have been a mistake. only thing is most of the decent regs will be checking back strong on turn here, perhaps with small flushes somewhat often.

Your filters seem wrong to me.

why did you filter river bet raise = false? If you take out the times we br the river, we are taking out the times we got raised on the river after betting, since br is when we 3bet river it implies we got raised after betting. In other words their fold % goes up when you filter this.

In any case, pio folds 27% to my 1/3 size bet...and it still likes my 1/3 size bet. So even if the correct filtering is 40% fold it seems my play is printing.



I think I brainfarted a bit thinking that I didnt wanted to include the times that they raise my small lead and I fold to fuck with the showdown. Obviously we want that in there ^^ the showdown is not the best measurement hehe. Just couldnt find a fold vs my riverbet stat in there from my perspective. Ignore my printscreen!

I still think people fold alot to it tho + dont raise enough/dont know how to respond to it really its such a uncharted situation. would be nice to actually look at correct filters, Im a filterfish

 Last edit: 11/08/2018 16:28

lebowski   Greece. Aug 12 2018 11:13. Posts 9097


  On August 11 2018 05:04 Stroggoz wrote:
hmm, pio basically agrees with my play here. except i made a couple small mistakes. 43sdd x/r flop, but 63s does not x/r flop. okay, small mistake. but i got the sizing right. The actual bigger mistake i made was that i'm supposed to barrel off 1/3 size with 90% of my range on turn, and including 63s at near 100% frequency. however, if it goes x/x, then betting 1/3 on river with 63s is the highest ev option, beating out checking by an ev of 1BB in chips.


how is 63s any different from 43s?
what does PIO do with 43hh?

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Aug 12 2018 15:44. Posts 4402

63s has more equity than 43s. 43hh, mix strategy x/r and call.

supposed to have greenstar not bracelet 

 

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