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Handnr: 1068161
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

PokerStars Zoom Hand #157092305465: Holdem No Limit ($0.08/$0.16) - 2016/08/10 11:08:18 CET [2016/08/10 5:08:18 ET]
Table Amundsen 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: CptAwsome505 ($14.90 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($16.24 in chips)
Seat 3: e1potrudo ($16.49 in chips)
Seat 4: sigizmundkrd ($16 in chips)
Seat 5: LlandieV3.0 ($39.40 in chips)
Seat 6: goodfet ($34.42 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $0.08
e1potrudo: posts big blind $0.16

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero KcKd
sigizmundkrd: folds
LlandieV3.0 has timed out
LlandieV3.0: folds
goodfet: raises $0.19 to $0.35
CptAwsome505: calls $0.35
Hero: raises $1.57 to $1.92
e1potrudo: folds
goodfet: folds
CptAwsome505: calls $1.57

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $4.35)

   6s6c6d
Hero: bets $1.11
CptAwsome505: calls $1.11

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $6.57)

   6s6c6dJd
Hero: bets $5.21
CptAwsome505: calls $5.21

River (Pot : $16.99)

   6s6c6dJd9c
Hero: bets $6.66
CptAwsome505: calls $6.66 and is all-in

Showdown
Hero: shows KcKd (a full house, Sixes full of Kings)
CptAwsome505: shows 6h9d (four of a kind, Sixes)
CptAwsome505 collected $28.95 from pot

Summary
Total pot $30.31 | Rake $1.36
Board  6s6c6dJd9c
Seat 1: CptAwsome505 (button) showed 6h9d and won ($28.95) with four of a kind, Sixes
Seat 2: Hero (small blind) showed KcKd and lost with a full house, Sixes full of Kings
Seat 3: e1potrudo (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: sigizmundkrd folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: LlandieV3.0 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: goodfet folded before Flop

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 10 2016 10:11. Posts 15143

Karma for trying to be cute I guess

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lebowski   Greece. Aug 10 2016 16:21. Posts 9204

When did you try to be cute in this hand?
Edit oh, you left 6.66 on purpose for river, nice

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 10/08/2016 16:23

PolarFox   United States. Aug 10 2016 18:49. Posts 103

there is no justice in this world


Nitewin   United States. Aug 10 2016 19:29. Posts 1531


  On August 10 2016 15:21 lebowski wrote:
When did you try to be cute in this hand?
Edit oh, you left 6.66 on purpose for river, nice



that's some quick math


traxamillion   United States. Aug 10 2016 21:27. Posts 10468

not even that cute, kinda standard. Could go slightly larger flop or slightly smaller turn but this is fine


cariadon   Estonia. Aug 11 2016 10:07. Posts 4015

lookes like something someone who has played for a week would do


Baalim   Mexico. Aug 11 2016 10:20. Posts 33968


  On August 10 2016 20:27 traxamillion wrote:
not even that cute, kinda standard. Could go slightly larger flop or slightly smaller turn but this is fine



no this isnt standard and the sizing is awful

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traxamillion   United States. Aug 11 2016 15:52. Posts 10468

so you go 2 on the flop and jam 10.5 11 into 8.5 on the turn? or even bigger on the flop? makes very little difference and this line gets value just fine

 Last edit: 11/08/2016 15:53

traxamillion   United States. Aug 11 2016 15:57. Posts 10468

at higher stakes you would see something like 1.5 - 3.5 - jam on this board nearly always

 Last edit: 11/08/2016 16:01

traxamillion   United States. Aug 11 2016 16:04. Posts 10468

baron himself probably goes with lemon's sizing. he likes 1/4 pot sometimes even less on tons of flops. especially ones like these


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Aug 11 2016 23:21. Posts 9626

I highly doubt baron does that a lot OOP


BlizzY   Slovakia. Aug 12 2016 09:40. Posts 805

I think he meant the turn sizing is awful. We have him utterly dominated and are forcing him to fold hands that should call smaller sizings


traxamillion   United States. Aug 12 2016 15:53. Posts 10468


  On August 12 2016 08:40 BlizzY wrote:
I think he meant the turn sizing is awful. We have him utterly dominated and are forcing him to fold hands that should call smaller sizings



that i dont disagree with.

Was just cruising HSNL and came across this hand which is somewhat relevant as far as flop sizing goes

Originally Posted by Testi View Post
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $25/$50 - 4 players
Rail Hand History Converter

IReadB00ks (UTG): $4009.29 (80 bb)
LLinusLLove (BU): $5000 (100 bb)
Tochminator (SB): $5198 (104 bb)
mustang239 (BB): $2308.02 (46 bb)

Pre Flop: ($75)
1 fold, LLinusLLove (BU) raises to $126, Tochminator (SB) 3-bets to $450, 1 fold, LLinusLLove (BU) calls $324

Flop: ($950) 6 2 6 (2 players) 6d 6s 2h
Tochminator (SB) bets $309.04, LLinusLLove (BU) raises to $854.52, Tochminator (SB) calls $545.48

Turn: ($2659.04) 5 (2 players) 5h
Tochminator (SB) checks, LLinusLLove (BU) bets $823.68, Tochminator (SB) raises to $1647.36, LLinusLLove (BU) calls $823.68

River: ($5953.76) 8 (2 players) 8c
Tochminator (SB) bets $2246.12 (all-in), LLinusLLove (BU) calls $2048.12 (all-in)

Total pot: $10050 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
Tochminator (SB) shows 7 A (a pair of Sixes)
(Equity - pre: 64%, flop: 74%, turn: 70%, river: 0%)

LLinusLLove (BU) shows 4 8 (two pair, Eights and Sixes)
(Equity - pre: 36%, flop: 26%, turn: 30%, river: 100%)

LLinusLLove (BU) wins $10048

 Last edit: 12/08/2016 15:54

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 12 2016 16:00. Posts 15143

Hahaha good old Deepz
Anyways not sure what's the talk here dude's a huge fish it doesnt rly matter what you do as long as you get it in

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traxamillion   United States. Aug 12 2016 16:26. Posts 10468

PokerStars, 8-Game - $50/$100 - 2 players
Rail Hand History Converter

joiso (BU): $29252.45 (293 bb)
w00ki3z. (BB): $18860.50 (189 bb)

Pre Flop: ($150) 7s Qc 7c
joiso (BU) raises to $300, w00ki3z. (BB) 3-bets to $1200, joiso (BU) calls $900

Flop: ($2400) 7 Q 7 (2 players) 6d
w00ki3z. (BB) bets $719.25, joiso (BU) calls $719.25

Turn: ($3838.50) 6 (2 players) Qh
w00ki3z. (BB) bets $2877, joiso (BU) calls $2877

River: ($9592.50) Q (2 players)
w00ki3z. (BB) checks, joiso (BU) bets $24456.20 (all-in), w00ki3z. (BB) calls $14064.25 (all-in)

Total pot: $37721 (Rake: $2.50)

Showdown:
joiso (BU) shows 5 Q (a full house, Queens full of Sevens)
w00ki3z. (BB) shows 7 K (a full house, Sevens full of Queens)
joiso (BU) wins $37718.50

Sub 1/3rd otf pretty standard on many of these boards even oop


traxamillion   United States. Aug 12 2016 16:27. Posts 10468

i had to reformat my laptop and lost a big DB of redbaron hands otherwise i could show u a bunch of 1/4th - 1/5th cbets as well


drone666   Brasil. Aug 13 2016 15:11. Posts 1801

lol traximilion you made 5 posts trying to explain how the flop size is correct but everyone is obv talking about turn size, should be smaller

Dont listen to anything I say 

Baalim   Mexico. Aug 13 2016 21:46. Posts 33968


  On August 13 2016 14:11 drone666 wrote:
lol traximilion you made 5 posts trying to explain how the flop size is correct but everyone is obv talking about turn size, should be smaller



this

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traxamillion   United States. Aug 13 2016 22:14. Posts 10468

Well off top i said turn should be smaller. I didnt think it was standard just reasonable but slightly off and not cute. in this hand pre is obv standard and river is only size it can be based on flop turn bets. So only things up for debate were possibly flop and turn. Baal slammed the sizing as awful without specifying a street (which if the problem lies in one specific street people usually indicate it) so i just assumed he was being critical of flop as well. Oops


traxamillion   United States. Aug 13 2016 22:19. Posts 10468

And since i thought flop was alright i focused on that, i thought turn was bad and agreed so didnt bring that up. Caradion and spitfire indicated they had a problem with flop even if baal and everyone else didnt so that elicited some of my response also


TianYuan    Korea (South). Aug 14 2016 02:11. Posts 6810


  On August 12 2016 15:00 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Hahaha good old Deepz
Anyways not sure what's the talk here dude's a huge fish it doesnt rly matter what you do as long as you get it in


I think sizing is at least as important when it's a fish.... You have a lot of his range dead to 2 outs with stacks shallow enough that you can bet much less and comfortably jam river, so why make it this huge on turn?

Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 18 2016 16:26. Posts 15143

To have 6.66 left on the river duh :D

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Santafairy   Korea (South). Aug 18 2016 19:32. Posts 2054

sizing doesn't matter

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

 

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