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Handnr: 1056777
Submitted by : Artanis[Xp]

PokerStars Hand #139760243935: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2015/08/23 0:41:09 CET [2015/08/22 18:41:09 ET]
Table Rotanev III 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Artanis11 ($247 in chips)
Seat 2: janbirger123 ($116 in chips)
janbirger123: posts small blind $1
Artanis11: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Artanis11 KhAc8sKd
janbirger123: raises $4 to $6
Artanis11: raises $12 to $18
janbirger123: raises $18 to $36
Artanis11: raises $72 to $108
janbirger123: raises $8 to $116 and is all-in
Artanis11: calls $8

Flop (Pot : $232.00)

   QdJh7s

Turn (Pot : $232.00)

   QdJh7sAd

River (Pot : $232.00)

   QdJh7sAd2c

Showdown
Artanis11: shows KhAc8sKd (a pair of Aces)
janbirger123: shows 7cQhQs5s (three of a kind, Queens)
janbirger123 collected $231.50 from pot

Summary
Total pot $232 | Rake $0.50
Board  QdJh7sAd2c
Seat 1: Artanis11 (big blind) showed KhAc8sKd and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: janbirger123 (button) (small blind) showed 7cQhQs5s and won ($231.50) with three of a kind, Queens


PokerStars Hand #139760366172: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2015/08/23 0:44:15 CET [2015/08/22 18:44:15 ET]
Table Rotanev III 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Artanis11 ($292.14 in chips)
Seat 2: janbirger123 ($187.34 in chips)
janbirger123: posts small blind $1
Artanis11: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Artanis11 3s5d5s4s
janbirger123: raises $2 to $4
Artanis11: calls $2

Flop (Pot : $240.00)

   8h2d5c
Artanis11: checks
janbirger123: bets $4
Artanis11: raises $11.26 to $15.26
janbirger123: calls $11.26

Turn (Pot : $270.52)

   8h2d5c4c
Artanis11: bets $27.37
janbirger123: calls $27.37

River (Pot : $325.26)

   8h2d5c4c4h
Artanis11: bets $66.78
janbirger123: calls $66.78

Showdown
Artanis11: shows 3s5d5s4s (a full house, Fives full of Fours)
janbirger123: mucks hand
Artanis11 collected $226.32 from pot

Summary
Total pot $226.82 | Rake $0.50
Board  8h2d5c4c4h
Seat 1: Artanis11 (big blind) showed 3s5d5s4s and won ($226.32) with a full house, Fives full of Fours
Seat 2: janbirger123 (button) (small blind) mucked As4d2sKd


PokerStars Hand #139760390526: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2015/08/23 0:44:53 CET [2015/08/22 18:44:53 ET]
Table Rotanev III 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Artanis11 ($387.05 in chips)
Seat 2: janbirger123 ($91.43 in chips)
janbirger123: posts small blind $1
Artanis11: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Artanis11 JsQsJc6s
janbirger123: raises $4 to $6
Artanis11: raises $12 to $18
janbirger123: calls $12

Flop (Pot : $276.00)

   9d7h2h
Artanis11: bets $35.50
janbirger123: raises $37.93 to $73.43 and is all-in
Artanis11: calls $37.93

Turn (Pot : $453.38)

   9d7h2h4h

River (Pot : $508.12)

   9d7h2h4hAs

Showdown
Artanis11: shows JsQsJc6s (a pair of Jacks)
janbirger123: shows AcJd8hTh (a flush, Ten high)
janbirger123 collected $182.36 from pot

Summary
Total pot $182.86 | Rake $0.50
Board  9d7h2h4hAs
Seat 1: Artanis11 (big blind) showed JsQsJc6s and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 2: janbirger123 (button) (small blind) showed AcJd8hTh and won ($182.36) with a flush, Ten high


PokerStars Hand #139760525181: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2015/08/23 0:48:19 CET [2015/08/22 18:48:19 ET]
Table Rotanev III 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Artanis11 ($300.83 in chips)
Seat 2: janbirger123 ($172.65 in chips)
janbirger123: posts small blind $1
Artanis11: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Artanis11 QsAdKh4s
janbirger123: raises $4 to $6
Artanis11: raises $12 to $18
janbirger123: raises $24 to $42
Artanis11: calls $24

Flop (Pot : $360.00)

   Js6dTs
Artanis11: bets $83.50
janbirger123: raises $47.15 to $130.65 and is all-in
Artanis11: calls $47.15

Turn (Pot : $798.68)

   Js6dTs6h

River (Pot : $853.42)

   Js6dTs6h8h

Showdown
Artanis11: shows QsAdKh4s (a pair of Sixes)
janbirger123: shows As7c9sKc (a straight, Seven to Jack)
janbirger123 collected $344.80 from pot

Summary
Total pot $345.30 | Rake $0.50
Board  Js6dTs6h8h
Seat 1: Artanis11 (big blind) showed QsAdKh4s and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 2: janbirger123 (button) (small blind) showed As7c9sKc and won ($344.80) with a straight, Seven to Jack


PokerStars Hand #139760620262: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2015/08/23 0:50:46 CET [2015/08/22 18:50:46 ET]
Table Rotanev III 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Artanis11 ($203.64 in chips)
Seat 2: janbirger123 ($458.87 in chips)
Artanis11: posts small blind $1
janbirger123: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Artanis11 5h9cAc8s
Artanis11: raises $4 to $6
janbirger123: raises $12 to $18
Artanis11: calls $12

Flop (Pot : $396.00)

   5s8dAd
janbirger123: bets $20
Artanis11: raises $75.50 to $95.50
janbirger123: raises $75.50 to $171
Artanis11: raises $14.64 to $185.64 and is all-in
janbirger123: calls $14.64

Turn (Pot : $1,205.96)

   5s8dAdJd

River (Pot : $1,260.70)

   5s8dAdJdJh

Showdown
janbirger123: shows 6dAs7hKd (a flush, Ace high)
Artanis11: shows 5h9cAc8s (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
janbirger123 collected $406.78 from pot

Summary
Total pot $407.28 | Rake $0.50
Board  5s8dAdJdJh
Seat 1: Artanis11 (button) (small blind) showed 5h9cAc8s and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 2: janbirger123 (big blind) showed 6dAs7hKd and won ($406.78) with a flush, Ace high


PokerStars Hand #139760657236: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2015/08/23 0:51:44 CET [2015/08/22 18:51:44 ET]
Table Rotanev III 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Artanis11 ($211.71 in chips)
Seat 2: janbirger123 ($649.80 in chips)
Artanis11: posts small blind $1
janbirger123: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Artanis11 8hQcAhJh
Artanis11: raises $4 to $6
janbirger123: raises $12 to $18
Artanis11: raises $34 to $52
janbirger123: calls $34

Flop (Pot : $500.00)

   Kd8d2h
janbirger123: checks
Artanis11: bets $103.50
janbirger123: raises $103.50 to $207
Artanis11: calls $56.21 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($47.29) returned to janbirger123

Turn (Pot : $1,629.38)

   Kd8d2h2s

River (Pot : $1,684.12)

   Kd8d2h2s9h

Showdown
janbirger123: shows 2c4h4sKc (a full house, Deuces full of Kings)
Artanis11: shows 8hQcAhJh (two pair, Eights and Deuces)
janbirger123 collected $422.92 from pot

Summary
Total pot $423.42 | Rake $0.50
Board  Kd8d2h2s9h
Seat 1: Artanis11 (button) (small blind) showed 8hQcAhJh and lost with two pair, Eights and Deuces
Seat 2: janbirger123 (big blind) showed 2c4h4sKc and won ($422.92) with a full house, Deuces full of Kings


PokerStars Hand #139760857002: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2015/08/23 0:57:16 CET [2015/08/22 18:57:16 ET]
Table Rotanev III 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Artanis11 ($200 in chips)
Seat 2: janbirger123 ($898.33 in chips)
Artanis11: posts small blind $1
janbirger123: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Artanis11 Ad9cKdAs
Artanis11: raises $4 to $6
janbirger123: raises $12 to $18
Artanis11: raises $36 to $54
janbirger123: calls $36

Flop (Pot : $608.00)

   5d7hQd
janbirger123: checks
Artanis11: bets $34.40
janbirger123: calls $34.40

Turn (Pot : $1,806.18)

   5d7hQd4d
janbirger123: checks
Artanis11: bets $111.60 and is all-in
janbirger123: calls $111.60

River (Pot : $2,084.12)

   5d7hQd4d7s

Showdown
janbirger123: shows 3dJs6h9h (a straight, Three to Seven)
Artanis11: shows Ad9cKdAs (a flush, Ace high)
Artanis11 collected $399.50 from pot

Summary
Total pot $400 | Rake $0.50
Board  5d7hQd4d7s
Seat 1: Artanis11 (button) (small blind) showed Ad9cKdAs and won ($399.50) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: janbirger123 (big blind) showed 3dJs6h9h and lost with a straight, Three to Seven


PokerStars Hand #139761002075: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2015/08/23 1:01:37 CET [2015/08/22 19:01:37 ET]
Table Rotanev III 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Artanis11 ($249.98 in chips)
Seat 2: janbirger123 ($842.85 in chips)
janbirger123: posts small blind $1
Artanis11: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Artanis11 AhTc8dTs
janbirger123: raises $4 to $6
Artanis11: raises $12 to $18
janbirger123: calls $12

Flop (Pot : $644.00)

   ThAcKh
Artanis11: bets $25.56
janbirger123: calls $25.56

Turn (Pot : $1,893.30)

   ThAcKh4d
Artanis11: bets $62.36
janbirger123: calls $62.36

River (Pot : $2,295.96)

   ThAcKh4d5s
Artanis11: bets $144.06 and is all-in
janbirger123: folds
Uncalled bet ($144.06) returned to Artanis11
Artanis11 collected $211.34 from pot
Artanis11: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot $211.84 | Rake $0.50
Board  ThAcKh4d5s
Seat 1: Artanis11 (big blind) collected ($211.34)
Seat 2: janbirger123 (button) (small blind) folded on the River


PokerStars Hand #139761193403: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2015/08/23 1:06:20 CET [2015/08/22 19:06:20 ET]
Table Rotanev III 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Artanis11 ($517.87 in chips)
Seat 2: janbirger123 ($569.96 in chips)
janbirger123: posts small blind $1
Artanis11: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Artanis11 KcTc3cJd
janbirger123: raises $4 to $6
Artanis11: calls $4

Flop (Pot : $656.00)

   9sQs5h
Artanis11: checks
janbirger123: bets $8
Artanis11: raises $27.50 to $35.50
janbirger123: calls $27.50

Turn (Pot : $1,976.30)

   9sQs5h8c
Artanis11: bets $82.50
janbirger123: calls $82.50

River (Pot : $2,543.96)

   9sQs5h8cKh
Artanis11: bets $133.65
janbirger123: calls $133.65

Showdown
Artanis11: shows KcTc3cJd (a straight, Nine to King)
janbirger123: mucks hand
Artanis11 collected $514.80 from pot

Summary
Total pot $515.30 | Rake $0.50
Board  9sQs5h8cKh
Seat 1: Artanis11 (big blind) showed KcTc3cJd and won ($514.80) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 2: janbirger123 (button) (small blind) mucked 2hKd8sJs


PokerStars Hand #139761245427: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2015/08/23 1:07:38 CET [2015/08/22 19:07:38 ET]
Table Rotanev III 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Artanis11 ($732.52 in chips)
Seat 2: janbirger123 ($353.81 in chips)
Artanis11: posts small blind $1
janbirger123: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Artanis11 TsQdAs9h
Artanis11: raises $4 to $6
janbirger123: raises $12 to $18
Artanis11: calls $12

Flop (Pot : $692.00)

   7dAhJc
janbirger123: checks
Artanis11: bets $25.56
janbirger123: calls $25.56

Turn (Pot : $2,063.42)

   7dAhJc8s
janbirger123: checks
Artanis11: bets $62.36
janbirger123: calls $62.36

River (Pot : $2,755.80)

   7dAhJc8sJd
janbirger123: checks
Artanis11: bets $114.12
janbirger123: calls $114.12

Showdown
Artanis11: shows TsQdAs9h (a straight, Seven to Jack)
janbirger123: shows 4sJh2h8c (a full house, Jacks full of Eights)
janbirger123 collected $439.58 from pot

Summary
Total pot $440.08 | Rake $0.50
Board  7dAhJc8sJd
Seat 1: Artanis11 (button) (small blind) showed TsQdAs9h and lost with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 2: janbirger123 (big blind) showed 4sJh2h8c and won ($439.58) with a full house, Jacks full of Eights


PokerStars Hand #139761421986: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2015/08/23 1:12:08 CET [2015/08/22 19:12:08 ET]
Table Rotanev III 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Artanis11 ($593.42 in chips)
Seat 2: janbirger123 ($486.91 in chips)
Artanis11: posts small blind $1
janbirger123: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Artanis11 AsTsJcTh
Artanis11: raises $4 to $6
janbirger123: raises $12 to $18
Artanis11: raises $36 to $54
janbirger123: calls $36

Flop (Pot : $800.00)

   9d7c3s
janbirger123: checks
Artanis11: bets $77.40
janbirger123: calls $77.40

Turn (Pot : $2,326.22)

   9d7c3sKd
janbirger123: checks
Artanis11: checks

River (Pot : $3,018.60)

   9d7c3sKd3d
janbirger123: bets $98
Artanis11: calls $98

Showdown
janbirger123: shows 7s8h3c5d (a full house, Threes full of Sevens)
Artanis11: mucks hand
janbirger123 collected $458.30 from pot

Summary
Total pot $458.80 | Rake $0.50
Board  9d7c3sKd3d
Seat 1: Artanis11 (button) (small blind) mucked AsTsJcTh
Seat 2: janbirger123 (big blind) showed 7s8h3c5d and won ($458.30) with a full house, Threes full of Sevens


PokerStars Hand #139761558384: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2015/08/23 1:15:40 CET [2015/08/22 19:15:40 ET]
Table Rotanev III 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Artanis11 ($386.46 in chips)
Seat 2: janbirger123 ($689.87 in chips)
Artanis11: posts small blind $1
janbirger123: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Artanis11 3sQs9s4d
Artanis11: raises $4 to $6
janbirger123: raises $12 to $18
Artanis11: calls $12

Flop (Pot : $836.00)

   3cTd9h
janbirger123: bets $18
Artanis11: calls $18

Turn (Pot : $2,398.22)

   3cTd9h9d
janbirger123: checks
Artanis11: bets $51.48
janbirger123: calls $51.48

River (Pot : $3,193.56)

   3cTd9h9dJs
janbirger123: checks
Artanis11: bets $125.61
janbirger123: calls $125.61

Showdown
Artanis11: shows 3sQs9s4d (a full house, Nines full of Threes)
janbirger123: mucks hand
Artanis11 collected $425.68 from pot

Summary
Total pot $426.18 | Rake $0.50
Board  3cTd9h9dJs
Seat 1: Artanis11 (button) (small blind) showed 3sQs9s4d and won ($425.68) with a full house, Nines full of Threes
Seat 2: janbirger123 (big blind) mucked Ts8c8sQc


PokerStars Hand #139761792385: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2015/08/23 1:21:58 CET [2015/08/22 19:21:58 ET]
Table Rotanev III 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Artanis11 ($687.23 in chips)
Seat 2: janbirger123 ($383.10 in chips)
Artanis11: posts small blind $1
janbirger123: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Artanis11 JhQcQdTd
Artanis11: raises $4 to $6
janbirger123: raises $12 to $18
Artanis11: raises $36 to $54
janbirger123: calls $36

Flop (Pot : $944.00)

   TsJd5h
janbirger123: checks
Artanis11: bets $77.40
janbirger123: calls $77.40

Turn (Pot : $2,661.02)

   TsJd5h4h
janbirger123: checks
Artanis11: bets $262.30
janbirger123: calls $251.70 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($10.60) returned to Artanis11

River (Pot : $3,959.76)

   TsJd5h4h4s

Showdown
janbirger123: shows 9hQh5s9d (two pair, Nines and Fours)
Artanis11: shows JhQcQdTd (two pair, Queens and Fours)
Artanis11 collected $765.70 from pot

Summary
Total pot $766.20 | Rake $0.50
Board  TsJd5h4h4s
Seat 1: Artanis11 (button) (small blind) showed JhQcQdTd and won ($765.70) with two pair, Queens and Fours
Seat 2: janbirger123 (big blind) showed 9hQh5s9d and lost with two pair, Nines and Fours

70% 3bet opponent. It was a wild ride. Quite sure I made quite some spews but jesus .

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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Aug 23 2015 10:26. Posts 4697

In the end, after all that, I won $110.

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traxamillion   United States. Aug 23 2015 10:58. Posts 10468

That 1010 call I really thought you were about to catch a bluff from a missed sd or counterfeited 2 pair (well he had 2pair before riv just the wrong 2)


traxamillion   United States. Aug 23 2015 11:22. Posts 10468

Nice to win that last hand!

JcJsQs6s hand seems close, if ur getting this in it be at the bottom of the range. It's better if you expect him to jam 100% of overpairs pre bit still probably rather get in decent 9xxx than bare JJ here for example. c/fold sucks cause you don't want to spew equity when you check to him and he jams ace high or 2xxx and his stack is small as shit. c/c blows too since all the turns suck so I see how you are left with this. I think this situation say a little bit about 3betting this hand pre at this stack depth though ; you have to get in so many boards might want something that flops a little harder/nuttier oop.

I also check back the 8hQcJhAh. Spr a little too big to just gii here I think; i'd check back and just give up bad turns and go to town on the 10h etc.


lucky331   . Aug 23 2015 11:39. Posts 1124


  On August 23 2015 09:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
In the end, after all that, I won $110.



The other guy must be thinking.. "After all that, I lost only $110."

Makes him feel like a winner.


Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Aug 23 2015 11:46. Posts 4697


  On August 23 2015 10:22 traxamillion wrote:
Nice to win that last hand!

JcJsQs6s hand seems close, if ur getting this in it be at the bottom of the range. It's better if you expect him to jam 100% of overpairs pre bit still probably rather get in decent 9xxx than bare JJ here for example. c/fold sucks cause you don't want to spew equity when you check to him and he jams ace high or 2xxx and his stack is small as shit. c/c blows too since all the turns suck so I see how you are left with this. I think this situation say a little bit about 3betting this hand pre at this stack depth though ; you have to get in so many boards might want something that flops a little harder/nuttier oop.

I also check back the 8hQcJhAh. Spr a little too big to just gii here I think; i'd check back and just give up bad turns and go to town on the 10h etc.


I don't think the JJQ6 hand is close; when there's no A or K or extremely coordinated board we have to get it in with a SPR of 2. The equity we gain from him folding is just too great and he's never going to have a higher PP since he would've 4bet pre.

As for the AQJ8, hmm, I'm really not sure. I can see a case being made for either. I actually think the biggest mistake I made this session was the ATTJ call since he really wasn't all that bluffy, and when he did bluff he usually made it small sizings.


Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Aug 23 2015 11:55. Posts 4697

Actually went to calc the JJQ6 thing, and it's closer than I thought. We're 42.5% vs 90%!AA-KK9,7,T8,68,hh) (117/181k combos). Presuming the other ~60k fold (giving myself a bit of leeway for some missed combos) means we win $36 33% of the time by shoving and 42.5% of $182=$77.35->keep an average of $77.35 when we get it in 66% of the time. I kinda need to fix that to make it more legible but the end conclusion is that it's an easy ship.


Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Aug 23 2015 12:05. Posts 4697

AQJ8 hand is 39.5% vs a 70%!AAQQ-JJ,K!33-77,8!33-77,K2,K8,82,dd) range, which is 91/147k possible combos for his 70%!AA 3bet/no 5bet range. Since we get folds >33% of the time vs that as well as him occasionally 4betting AKQ-type hands it's also an easy ship.


TianYuan    Korea (South). Aug 23 2015 12:35. Posts 6810

Only hand I don't think I like is the A578, seems like it'd play better as a call/see turn, unless he stacks off incredibly light on the flop but doesn't barrel or something. Just seems nicer for our range + turn cards will change equities a lot.

But then again he does 3bet like K244ss D:


  On August 23 2015 10:39 lucky331 wrote:
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The other guy must be thinking.. "After all that, I lost only $110."

Makes him feel like a winner.

You're forgetting the rake which ate the remaining whatever $ (depending on what his starting stack was, seems like it might have been 160?)

Hm.. Off-suite socks..Last edit: 23/08/2015 12:36

drone666   Brasil. Aug 23 2015 16:41. Posts 1801

dude probably lost over 400$ due the rake

Dont listen to anything I say 

Ryan Neilly   United States. Aug 23 2015 18:34. Posts 1578

artanis well played happy u got it back nice hands in general keep postin


traxamillion   United States. Aug 23 2015 18:47. Posts 10468


  On August 23 2015 10:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Actually went to calc the JJQ6 thing, and it's closer than I thought. We're 42.5% vs 90%!AA-KK9,7,T8,68,hh) (117/181k combos). Presuming the other ~60k fold (giving myself a bit of leeway for some missed combos) means we win $36 33% of the time by shoving and 42.5% of $182=$77.35->keep an average of $77.35 when we get it in 66% of the time. I kinda need to fix that to make it more legible but the end conclusion is that it's an easy ship.



I know it's a ship on flop it's just not a lovely spot, u usually have to get it in bad. You are double suited so sure 3bet i'd just rather that 6 be a little more connected or above the Q.


lebowski   Greece. Aug 23 2015 19:49. Posts 9204

I see you're back to flipping

jk interesting match vs maniac dude

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Aug 24 2015 00:23. Posts 4697


  On August 23 2015 11:35 TianYuan wrote:
Only hand I don't think I like is the A578, seems like it'd play better as a call/see turn, unless he stacks off incredibly light on the flop but doesn't barrel or something. Just seems nicer for our range + turn cards will change equities a lot.

But then again he does 3bet like K244ss D:

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You're forgetting the rake which ate the remaining whatever $ (depending on what his starting stack was, seems like it might have been 160?)


Hm, well, I don't think he barrels that much on later streets. What I kind of expected was him to stack off pretty much any Ax that hit something so I'm not sure which turns are good for me and which aren't (any high card can make him a better 2p, any low card can give him a straight), it felt like the safe play was to just get it in on the turn when we're always going to have good equity at least. Basically, I don't think our turn decisions are clear and he cbets too much which leads me to believe felting on flop is probably the best move.

Yeah, I think he bought in for $162.

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TianYuan    Korea (South). Aug 24 2015 11:10. Posts 6810

Tbh it's probably just my 6max mindset where I raise these flops so rarely and people have stronger ranges... I actually overdo it a bit I think.

Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

traxamillion   United States. Aug 24 2015 21:57. Posts 10468

Raising that A85 is fine


 

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