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Handnr: 1056450
Submitted by : lebowski

PokerStars Zoom Hand #139193840372: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2015/08/10 9:28:34 ET
Table Triangulum 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($110.06 in chips)
Seat 2: Englocked ($256.08 in chips)
Seat 3: mrADrEeNaLiN ($143.34 in chips)
Seat 4: LyingLorenzo ($120.50 in chips)
Seat 5: AlphaDonK2k9 ($113.78 in chips)
Seat 6: OrePirate ($199.15 in chips)
Englocked: posts small blind $0.50
mrADrEeNaLiN: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to Hero Qc8d
LyingLorenzo: folds
AlphaDonK2k9: folds
OrePirate: folds
Hero: raises $1 to $2
Englocked: folds
mrADrEeNaLiN: calls $1

Flop (Pot : $4.50)

   9s3d2d
mrADrEeNaLiN: checks
Hero: bets $2.75
mrADrEeNaLiN: calls $2.75

Turn (Pot : $10.00)

   9s3d2dQs
mrADrEeNaLiN: checks
Hero: bets $6.11
mrADrEeNaLiN: raises $12.89 to $19
Hero: calls $12.89

River (Pot : $48.00)

   9s3d2dQs6s
mrADrEeNaLiN: bets $35
Hero:

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lebowski   Greece. Aug 10 2015 14:37. Posts 9205

is it suicidal to want to jam here?
could calling be good enough?

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fira   United States. Aug 10 2015 15:22. Posts 6345

hmm i'm not sure, initially i thought it would be good to bluffjam hands with spades in them, but i'm not sure what kind of flushes villain has, if any at all... like if he had A3s why wouldnt he just call turn, raise seems silly.
so maybe this hand is a good hand to jam since the next best thing to block is the 2pair type hands with Q in them, although it would be good to block a 2 or 3 since it blocks 22 and 33.
i think it depends on how u think villain is playing his range on turn, how many flushes he has (if any), and then go from there... if u think he has flushes then it's better to bluff with 1 spade hands, if not this might be good.

i dont think calling will good often, cos i don't see what kind of bluffs he could have... but that's also a judgement call on his range, whether he could have random air like 65h, A7o, K2c etc


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Aug 10 2015 16:32. Posts 9634


  On August 10 2015 13:37 lebowski wrote:
is it suicidal to want to jam here?
could calling be good enough?


w this hand ye, at least block some shit, the only JT he has is spades and it wont fold and thats pretty much the only thing u block
just fold and be happy about it i guess


lebowski   Greece. Aug 10 2015 19:22. Posts 9205

^I'm not sure I understand what you're saying about me blocking J10

but yeah I guess me having a diamond sucks, I block no sets and it's not deep enough
It's just that this river card is so amazing if you want to make someone fold -_-

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Aug 10 2015 20:11. Posts 9634

He mostly has spades as played not diamonds ( if we re talking about suited part of his range), diamonds would never raise the turn .. if not never at least not that often
River card is far from amazing he has tons of backdoor flushes that just hit

 Last edit: 10/08/2015 20:11

lebowski   Greece. Aug 10 2015 20:28. Posts 9205

I don't see why would he raise spades on the turn and risk getting thrown off his well hidden equity. Whereas it makes sense he would raise with diamonds because he has worst implied odds if he just calls turn
I really think the bdoor flush favors me more than him, also all 45s are in my range and it's not deep enough so that I wouldn't shove (not expecting him to have lots of spades)

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Nitewin   United States. Aug 11 2015 02:20. Posts 1539

What do you put him on? 22, 33, 99 beat you. You beat draws. Good luck getting NL100 players to fold a set here. I would just call. Although jamming might get a hero call from a hand like A9 or TT.


traxamillion   United States. Aug 11 2015 02:26. Posts 10468

I could see villain doing this with A4ss


traxamillion   United States. Aug 11 2015 02:28. Posts 10468

Did u fold? jam? Result


Nitewin   United States. Aug 11 2015 03:25. Posts 1539

yeah backdoor spades with a gutter makes sense too.


YoMeR   United States. Aug 11 2015 07:17. Posts 12435

without some kinda read jamming here seems like complete suicide.

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handbanana21   United States. Aug 11 2015 07:20. Posts 3037

na just call. Queen is pretty high up in our range.


traxamillion   United States. Aug 11 2015 08:03. Posts 10468


  On August 11 2015 06:20 handbanana21 wrote:
na just call. Queen is pretty high up in our range.



Agree


Baalim   Mexico. Aug 11 2015 11:25. Posts 34246

your hand is one of the worst hands to bluff, you dont have any blockers to most of his nutty hands, like 9x 3x 2x 4d,5d Ts Js Ks As, you block his 1 pair hands that folds to shove, you have a diamond.

So no, this is a fold and maybe a turn fold if you dont feel like it would be a snap super EV+ call on blanks

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lebowski   Greece. Aug 11 2015 12:47. Posts 9205

thanks everyone, while playing I did the impulsive and in hindsight semi-retarded move and jammed, he tank folded, probably hollywooding some sort of air
oh well
XD

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TimDawg    United States. Aug 11 2015 15:42. Posts 10197

I just think most players take this line with some sort of spade combo from my experience, so I would call turn and feel pretty good about folding this specific river but I would be calling most rivers for sure

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

Jamie217   Canada. Aug 11 2015 17:46. Posts 4351


  On August 11 2015 14:42 TimDawg wrote:
I just think most players take this line with some sort of spade combo from my experience, so I would call turn and feel pretty good about folding this specific river but I would be calling most rivers for sure


dogmeat   Czech Republic. Aug 11 2015 21:12. Posts 6374

fold pre, gg

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MARSHALL28   United States. Aug 12 2015 05:56. Posts 1897

first of all, your flop bet is unnecessarily big.

second, jamming river, as previously stated would be ridiculous.

river is between call and fold ..

reasons to call ... he reps narrow value range, only 99, 22, 33, q9, backdoor spades.

reasons to fold ... we block diamonds, we don't block spades, most villains at 100nl id perceive as nits incapable of bluffing here.

i dont really know what to do. flip a coin i guess. i lean fold. if we had 8s id lean call.


MARSHALL28   United States. Aug 12 2015 16:35. Posts 1897

 Last edit: 12/08/2015 16:36

 

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