fish calls around 70% pre doesnt 3b
the turn
his call range is probably something like this

Board: Qh8c2h4s
Equity Win Tie
MP2 44.09% 42.97% 1.12% { Ad8d }
MP3 55.91% 54.79% 1.12% { QQ-22, AQs, A8s, KQs, K8s, Q2s+, J8s, T8s, 98s, AQo, A8o, KQo, K8o, Q5o+, J8o, T8o, 98o, 86o+, AhKh, AhJh, KhJh, AhTh, KhTh, JhTh, Ah9h, Kh9h, Jh9h, Th9h, Ah7h, Kh7h, Jh7h, Th7h, 9h7h, 8h7h, Ah6h, Kh6h, Jh6h, Th6h, 9h6h, 8h6h, 7h6h, Ah5h, Kh5h, Jh5h, Th5h, 9h5h, 8h5h, 7h5h, 6h5h, Ah4h, Kh4h, Jh4h, Th4h, 9h4h, 8h4h, 7h4h, 6h4h, 5h4h, Ah3h, Kh3h, Jh3h, Th3h, 9h3h, 8h3h, 7h3h, 6h3h, 5h3h, 4h3h, Ah2h, Kh2h, Jh2h, Th2h, 9h2h, 8h2h, 7h2h, 6h2h, 5h2h, 4h2h, 3h2h }


I mean It's technically not a value bet on the turn so should I be check calling here? The hand looked too strong vs a drooler
I do fold out a ton of 6 out hands tho

Stop overthinking.

Hand played correctly, move on, insta forget about it. No other way to play it, stop bitching.

hmmm rather check flap 3 way ?

On April 04 2014 15:39 GoldRush wrote: Stop overthinking. Hand played correctly, move on, insta forget about it. No other way to play it, stop bitching.

so it's correct to bet when ur behind a calling range when you fold out hands with equity?

cause a midstakes crusher coach yesterday said otherwise in a flop spot

I doubt you're behind his calling range. Hand is standard, fish had a top pair -happens

On April 04 2014 17:09 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Show nested quote + On April 04 2014 15:39 GoldRush wrote: Stop overthinking. Hand played correctly, move on, insta forget about it. No other way to play it, stop bitching. so it's correct to bet when ur behind a calling range when you fold out hands with equity?

if you check you have no idea what he bets or checks. well maybe you do, but its usually hard to say with fish. may check all flush draws meaning you give free cards to hands you dont want to and its likely c/f is close to correct.
when you bet you know he likely calls everything you currently beat that may not bet themselves and you can control sizing. bet seems better.

On April 04 2014 20:34 Spitfiree wrote: I doubt you're behind his calling range. Hand is standard, fish had a top pair -happens

I am in terms of equity that range I've shown is pretty generous 3way vs 4x iso

On April 04 2014 21:31 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On April 04 2014 17:09 LemOn[5thF] wrote:   On April 04 2014 15:39 GoldRush wrote: Stop overthinking. Hand played correctly, move on, insta forget about it. No other way to play it, stop bitching. so it's correct to bet when ur behind a calling range when you fold out hands with equity? if you check you have no idea what he bets or checks. well maybe you do, but its usually hard to say with fish. may check all flush draws meaning you give free cards to hands you dont want to and its likely c/f is close to correct. when you bet you know he likely calls everything you currently beat that may not bet themselves and you can control sizing. bet seems better.

That's a good point, I don't rly know when I check he bets 60% pot it's a gay spot.
And the bet's slam dunk +ev guaranteed even tho it's not a value bet when he won't punish my face up sizing and let's me manipulate the pot size.

So guess the more I know how he'll play his ranges on the turn the more I should be inclined to check here?
same goes for all my hands for that matter besides really crappy pairs right?