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OjKa   United Kingdom. Jul 15 2010 07:14. Posts 210
Following a dream I had last night about playing poker online...and I lost quad kings because the two kings on the board changed at the end so I lost to aces.

Anyway I would appreciate any help you could give me. I just started playing again and a few days ago I was up then was down 1BI. I looked on PT after to see what hands I'd been going wrong with and it seemed I had been playing too many seemingly good hands too aggressively and most likely not really taking in position.
So the next day I tightened up and played a bit more "solid" and huzzah profit. However this is going wrong.
I know that it's just to do with it being poker but I understand that I have many leaks despite trying to tighten up so any advice here is greatly appreciated.



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I'm not entirely sure how to read this but I'll give it a go.
I think one of my leaks are the blinds. I'm really not sure how to play them.

Blinds and limping:
If I'm the small blind, I usually limp in with suited connectors or with T8/97 like that when there are other limpers. Is this a good idea? If there is a raised pot and a caller, should I be calling to see a flop with T9s/T8s etc?
I believe I should be 3betting from the SB with AK and obviously normal 3betting ranges. Should I include TT?
Let's say I 3b with AK and the guy calls. The flop is 67Q. Should I bet into them? If I do and they call and the board is 67Q2, what do I do? Do I check call or just barrel again? I'm not comfortable playing OOP.
As the Button I have started to try and steal the blinds a lot more. My range is any pocket pair to 98s and up. Should I raise with 56s, 34s? If I miss the flop, do I just cbet anyway and if they call and check again, do I barrel again? Is that mostly up to what the actual board looks like?

Defending:
I can see that my fold to steal is waaaay high. If the button raises to x3bb (15 cents usually) should I be calling and if so, what with?
If it's blind on blind and the SB raises into me, again to x3bb, should I just call and see a flop? I can see the advantage in that they have no idea what I'm calling with and I also have position.
If I'm the SB, should I be raising into the BB and if so, how open is my range? If they call, how do I play after?

Raising:
I have started to raise to x4 when utg with AA-TT/AK. With AQ I'm kind of mixed. Should I raise AQs and not AQ or just fold them both? With pocket pairs such as 22-66, should I be raising them as well from utg?
If I'm on the CO with KJ, do I call a raise from say utg/utg+1? I usually don't like to play KJ but I may call if it's suited. The reason of course is if I do hit the J I could be up against AJ and if I hit the K, could be vs AK/KQ.
At the CO once more, should I be confident in raising KJ/AT unsuited?
Where does ATs fit in the lines? Should I ever be raising that from outside the button?

Calling:
I call raises with AK/AQ/AJs and any pocket pair. If I have position with a pocket pair such as 55 and the board is something like 482, do I simply call a possible cbet or do I reraise if I believe they missed the flop with Ax? If I'm OOP on this same hand and again believe they have missed, do I bet into the and try to take the pot there, or do I check raise or check call?
What happens if I raise with 22-TT and someone 3bets me? Do I call and try to hit a set on the flop or just fold?

Table Selecting:
I'm aware of this but not entirely sure how to execute this right.
When I go to tables I usually go by the hands/flop percentage thing, usually with the highest average pot. Should I be going with the pot size instead? After around twenty hands you can usually tell what the players are at these stakes and a lot of the more solid players I know as they are still kicking it from the last time I saw them late last year. Are two players with VPs of over 25% good enough? On tight tables where players are something like 10-20/5-20pfr do I just leave and find another table, because that's generally what I do if they aren't giving me aciton

I know a lot of these will depend on the players, I usually 3 table which gives me time to look at every finished hand and make notes on what people are doing, however I was 4 tabling yesterday and I do like that it's more autopilot, it keeps me out of trouble from playing lesser hands but information on players may go missed.

Am I folding too much on the flop/turn/river?
If I have AK/AQ and the board is dry and my opponent raises, what do I do? Do I call and see if I hit? If I call flop and miss turn, is it worth calling again? Do I shoot AK/AQ all the way to the river?

I'm sure there is a lot more information of my leaks from that above image that I don't understand how to extract so any additional help on that would be cool.

Here's my graph so far for the few days of July that I have been playing:




Is this looking alright?

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JSquids   United States. Jul 15 2010 09:01. Posts 1142

8K isnt a large sample at all.
80K isnt really a large sample either... but its better...

your attempt to steal is very very low. which makes me think your never willing to open the CO or btn to steal or squeeze a few limpers ect.
ummm from wat i see i think it has to do with your unwillingness to participate in a hand unless you have something.... your red line is horrible.

for anyone that tells you "this is micro stakes, ur red line is supposed to be going down" is wrong.... all threw the micros i have had a breakevenish red line, if not positive at some points... the reason for this is simple. people play extreamly face up. i would mind myself betting $1 into a $5 flop and taking it down as if i bet pot. min raising peoples cbets on the flop....ect.


you need to start focusing on how to abuse the players at your table and stop worrying so much about the cards in your hand.
example....remmeber, your money comes from the players at the table, not the cards in your hand.

this guy calls wayyy to much...start pot betting ur good hands
this guy is sooo ofucking weak...i just 1/4th pot every street and its like auto fold by river
this guy is a fucking lunatic...im ganna check call all 3 streets and let him go nuts with airball
this guy is so aggressive preflop, fires 1 bet then gives up to a 1/2 pot bet on the turn so il play him IP.

ect ect ect

AKA StarsNStripes@azeroth 

NewbSaibot   United States. Jul 15 2010 09:40. Posts 4943


  Is this looking alright?



No your redline is fucked. Drop tables and focus on better postflop play. You shouldnt be just cbet folding every board, which im guessing is whats responsible for these types of redlines.

bye now 

anheway   . Jul 15 2010 09:53. Posts 338

sample size yo


maszerant   Poland. Jul 15 2010 11:42. Posts 126

here's my 2 cents:

8k hands is nothing so don't overthink things for now and don't focus on your results over such a small sample.

It is certainly possible to be a winner at the micros with a redline going steadily down, however the angle on yours might be making it difficult for you. And like JSquids said, it's not supposed to be going down just coz it's the micros.

I'm not much of a stats expert but playing 17/7 is way too weak I think. I certainly have no research to back that up or anything, but even with solid postflop play I doubt people playing like that can be more than marginal winners. All I know is when I see those stats at the tables it just screams "breakeven/losing player".
For a start you could aim for something more like either 17/15 or even 14/12 or so f you're uncomfortable raising that much at first, you can always try to gradually open it up with time later. What's important is if you're attempting a nitty tag style the gap between VPIP and PFR shouldn't be as big as in your sample.
Also your aggression factor looks really low. I'm not an expert on aggression frequency % so no comments here, but having an AF of 1.8 seems pretty weak. Keep in mind though it might just be the sample size, and also, many people think the AF stat is irrelevant and aggression frequency % should be used solely instead.

Lastly and perhaps most importantly, in your post you're asking a lot of very general questions for which there are no definitive answers. You are wrong in your approach. Nobody can tell you if you should barrel or check/whatever your AK if your cbet gets called etc, because the answer to all of those questions would always be: it depends. Poker is about decision making, and you should try to use as much information as possible when faced with every single decision. Stuff like stack sizes, opponent's stats/image, your stats/image in his eyes, dynamic, timing, ranges (omg...) - you need to always take into account things like these, and I'm sure many, many other details too, I'm a long time micro stakes noob myself so I must be missing a lot still hehe.
But I'd say learning how the available information is relevant and how to better use it to find the best course of action comes with time and experience, at least I know I've gotten better at it after a while. Or maybe somebody could just teach you all that, not sure.



wow this is the first time in forever I'm making a post like that on lp, I hope the poker gods will give me good karma lol


JSquids   United States. Jul 15 2010 12:50. Posts 1142

lol i used to beat 10nl playing like 30/22 and up. loosin up ALOT.

thats def my best advice

AKA StarsNStripes@azeroth 

K40Cheddar   United States. Jul 15 2010 14:02. Posts 2202


  On July 15 2010 11:50 JSquids wrote:
lol i used to beat 10nl playing like 30/22 and up. loosin up ALOT.

thats def my best advice



+1

At NL 10 there are a lot of sick nits. I changed my full ring stats from 13/9 to 19/15 and made a lot more profit being aggressive. As long as you don't donk away huge pots and play smart postflop with the different hands you get, you should make up slightly more in nonshowdown which will increase your profit. You will also generate a more aggressive image so when you do hit a big hand more people won't think you have it and you'll get paid off. Be careful though, don't go around raising unconnected offsuit hands. Just open your range a little to mid/high suited connectors on the button/cutoff. This is where you will make most of your money.

GG 

OjKa   United Kingdom. Jul 15 2010 17:27. Posts 210

Thanks for all the advice everyone, I've been playing a bit the passed hour or two and I feel a lot more confident. I've been stealing and picking up pots with ease really. I'm two tabling at the moment, I haven't gotten myself into any bother so far and I feel pretty good.
Opening up more from the CO and BT without fear and am generally thinking more about what is going on in the hand and about the players.


 



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