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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Mar 16 2010 19:07. Posts 15163

30K ands NL50 Challenge finished.

I played a few days without a tracker so the number will come to roughly 30K.

What Was it
Jan sale at Stars made me masstable. And lose money, where I played like 5% A game.

I decided that I will just fuck it all, rebuild from NL25 and play 30k hands at NL25 and NL50 before doing some other business.

I needed to prove to myself that I have the self control to play a steady 4 tabling poker with my A game at least 50% of the time.
And that I simply can win.

Results
As this challenge was not about money at all, but about my discipline, I will break down the results to categories

Number of tables
Score: 9/10

Yeah baby, I was in the zone!
I 4 tabled about 85% of the time, 12% 6tabled and only 3% 7+ tabled 2 days ago.

Tilt Control
Score:8/10

I played my A game some 70% of the time. A massive increase when compared to the past.
I played my still winning B game for some 22.5-25%
My C game accounted for only some 5-7.5%, and it of course cost me some 8 buy ins in total, including 2 today.

What are the rough categories?

A game:
Realise and take note of 90%+ pots that happen on all tables
Only make decisions for a reason with considering all alternatives at all times
Ideal table and seat selection - playing only the best tables.
Never spew

B Game
- Realise and note big pots that went to sd
- Make solid standard decisions
- Leave -ev tables
- Never spew

C game
- Note nothing
- Raise 30%+ hands regardless of oposition
- make spontaneus decisions that oppose my own mind and thinking processes
- Just spew away stacks for no reason, open more tables, quit way too late.

I largely avoided my C game by:

- 1 hour fixed period before coming from work and starting tables
- Taking mandatory brakes at the latest after 80 minutes
- Attempt to avoid playing when I am tired/have eaten too much/am too sleepy.

Whenever I breached the rules my C game occured in about 50% of cases. Sick.

Betting Patterns
8/10
This is what you interned kids call playing poker.

I thik I beat NL50 now.
What helped me a lot was playing 500 bb deep with one of the biggest fish I have ever seen.
The answer is simple: Call more, Limp more and generally see more flops.
There are only handful of people that play like me that widen their 3 betting range when a fish limps and reg isolates, or that isolate with large frequency. I found it more profitable to limp a lot of suited connectors or mediocre value hands behind fishy players, as my postflop edge is just massive and by raising preflop with weak hands I was just allowing them to play good preflop.
This will not apply for NL400+, where regs start to be very much aware of different rangesand will raise a huge amount of hands when you limp beind a fish or isolate small amounts with very wide ranges, but that just doesn't happen here.

I was also experimenting with overbetting with good sucess, and playing OOP with emphasis on donk betting, and thats an area I have to focus on.
I also have to study advanced math concepts, I just suck in that area.

And obviously I made hundreds of mistakes, but I go by the philosophy that its much better to play loose, try new things and learn by trial and error than by being a nit that never really evolves or adjusts.

Highstakes is my longterm goal, not grinding midstakes 40 hours per week.

Results
10/10

I ran extremely hot. Not in All in EV, not so much in setups, but very much in timing of my runs.When I played my B and C game, I almost always had periods of +EV, and the biggest serial suckouts and bad beats came when I was playing my A game.

When I am focused, cards have 0% impact on my game. There were sessions where I lost 8 flips in a row, but It didn't get to me at all. But when I am tired/tilted from work or whatever, I don't even have to get a bad beat and I start spewing. And I ran hot when that happened, reducing my tilt category a ton, and being a great help.

Graphs:
I stopped multitabling on February 5th, Purged my database and started the challenge.
Here is all hands/stats since then minus a couple K when I played without HEM on because of technical problems.

Whats next
- Get into NL50 HU here and there, move up after I make some 10-20 BI. If you want free money by playing me at those stakes pelas esend me a pm.
- 20K hands NL100 6max, shots at soft NL200 tables if my winrate will be above 2BB/100 at NL100
- Mass table NL50 in last few days of the month to keep my SN (I just love Stars too much not to at least try to keep it)

Skype
Sorry for being out of touch with you guys. There wasn't much to talk about when I was playing NL50 and just battling my own tilt and masstabling demons.

This will now change as I move up /move to HU and we should have stuff to discuss

If anyone wants to discuss hands or get some Sweat sessions going add lp-lemOn

0 votes

93% Sure!

Last edit: 16/03/2010 20:25

k4ir0s Canada. Mar 16 2010 19:41. Posts 3482

sexy graph

"Realise and take note of 90%+ pots that happen on all tables"

90% of all pots? or just the ones your in?

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly

Last edit: 16/03/2010 19:43

gororokgororok Netherlands. Mar 16 2010 19:47. Posts 3941

"Highstakes is my longterm goal, not grinding midstakes 40 hours per week."

Kind of not like myself to rub it in here, but after all this time playing poker and still grinding nl50I think I would adjust this goal if I were you. You are only gonna fail putting goals this high. Grinding midstakes (nl400-nl1k) is gonna take at least 2-3 times longer then reaching NL100 if you are a really good player. Not even talking about high stakes here, which is an entirely different game.

I think if you wanna set goals, set a goal for yourselfes to move up to nl100 and then stay there for at least 3 months, or move up if things go really good.

thumbz555 United States. Mar 16 2010 19:52. Posts 3281

15BB/100 over that sample is pretty disgusting

I click buttons.

LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Mar 16 2010 19:54. Posts 15163

On March 16 2010 18:41 k4ir0s wrote:
sexy graph

"Realise and take note of 90%+ pots that happen on all tables"

90% of all pots? or just the ones your in?

All pots, like...all of them.

93% Sure!

Last edit: 16/03/2010 20:19

LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Mar 16 2010 20:16. Posts 15163

On March 16 2010 18:47 gororokgororok wrote:
"Highstakes is my longterm goal, not grinding midstakes 40 hours per week."

Kind of not like myself to rub it in here, but after all this time playing poker and still grinding nl50I think I would adjust this goal if I were you. You are only gonna fail putting goals this high. Grinding midstakes (nl400-nl1k) is gonna take at least 2-3 times longer then reaching NL100 if you are a really good player. Not even talking about high stakes here, which is an entirely different game.

I think if you wanna set goals, set a goal for yourselfes to move up to nl100 and then stay there for at least 3 months, or move up if things go really good.

If midstakes were my goal I will never give poker a shot (Which I never have, I have been playing poker fulltime only for 7 weeks so far last june-july, when I was at NL25).
Why the hell would anyone with decent career options have a goal of playing poker for 40 hours per week for a lower salary than they can get at a regular job longterm?

I am talking long term as in 2-5 years of playing fulltime.

Beating NL100 and NL50 HU is just a target leading to my goal.

93% Sure!

Last edit: 16/03/2010 20:18

kbis Canada. Mar 16 2010 21:37. Posts 35

hey nice job man, ur journey kinda motivated me to try to do the same.