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NewbSaibot United States. Feb 18 2010 18:50. Posts 4948 | | |
So I've migrated entirely to live poker with a small 5 BI bankroll to take a shot at the NL200 scene. So far so good. Up 1.5 BI's, still making necessary adjustments for live, how not to spew, calling wide w/implied odds, bet sizing, etc etc. I have a few curious hands, but no way to post them properly so Ill just try to run it down.
I've really ramped up the aggression the last few sessions, just punishing players looseness, at least after I see that first hand they take to showdown limping K5o UTG. As soon as I see that shit, it's on. Of course I'm getting to know the players too, so that helps. You can assume so much about someone based off one single hand they play.
So I've targeted this one fishcake who's +1 to my right. He hates me already, even called me stupid for jamming and making him fold his top pair when I had 2nd pair + OESD + FD. He's already commented how he's taking the seat to my left as soon as this other guy leaves. So I guess he's mildly positionally aware, but thats about it. I raise MP with KQs, and he snaps. Flop comes QT7r. Theres 90% chance he has something of course, as fish always do, even if it's a gutshot. I bet pot and he snaps. So now I know he's completely weak and drawing for a gutshot at best. Turn is 8 giving me a flush draw, I value bet pretty hard, a good 3/4 pot, and he snaps again. River is 9, missed my draw. So the board is now 789TQ, and I check. I mean, what choice do I have? Besides the fact I put him on a draw, he could also have luckboxed his way into a random 2 pair, and I mean fuck all I have is TP now. I check, he thinks for about 5-10 seconds, and then just grabs a wad of chips and slides them in the middle lol. Dealer has to count it, and it's about 60BB's worth. I muck and he shows me A5o. Well played sir.
I've run into this a few times lately. I've had a few players loud me out at the table as a "raising machine" and I can tell they just dont like my style of play. These guys are used to limping everything but QQ+. The scenario is usually a station fish snap calls me 2 streets, or snap raises me on the flop, and then bets the river like they have the nuts and trapped me the whole time, but the board is usually not good enough to warrant such a sick value bet, so it seems pretty clear they are looking for a fold rather than a call. I hero called once with a pair of 5's and scooped the pot vs a stone cold bluff, but so far I've been letting the other hands go out of fear. I dont really want to get into a variance fest, not with such a small starting bankroll at least, but maybe I should just start going with it. I mean, fish are so dumb I can easily see them betting pot with an obvious straight on the river, b/c in their minds they think "lol i has a straight! BET LARGE!"
Position is the key element to discouraging this, and perhaps even more aggressive betting to just make it too painful for them to try. As far as I'm concerned they're welcome to keep bluffing me, because it's not like im playing rags, and basically it's their funeral when I do ultimately catch them.
Other than that, the only other live leak I've yet to plug is just not pussying out with hands that for some reason I play like the nuts online. For example, this one loosey goosey 50 year old lady limps in UTG. She's a huge station, but mainly with just top pair and gutshot type hands. She'll stack off with bottom straight on the river when someone obviously has the high straight and woefully tell the table "I HAVE TO CALL! I HAVE A STRAIGHT!!"
Anyway, she limps UTG and gets 6 callers to me on the button, so I call with K4s. Flop KJ4r, nice. She leads and everyone folds, I repop her 4x. She snap calls, turn is a Queen. She checks, I bet and she snaps. River bricks and she checks. Board is now KJ4Q5. I opt to just check b/c I've seen the bitch slowplay all the way through the river, and KJ/KQ are in her range. She shows K9s and I win. If this hand were online I'd be betting all 3 streets.
I think part of my passivity live has simply come from a few mega bad beats and my experiences at NL2. I just get so paranoid sometimes that they have sucked out on me yet again, or that every time I raise AK and get 1 caller and the board comes 763, they always call and somehow always have a pair. Then I stop cbetting and etc etc etc. Every time I raise, 3bet, and play my draws fairly aggressively it tends to work out for the best, and these people just keep showing up with such trash it boggles the mind. The funny thing is, the more aggressive I play, the less I worry about suckouts. Dunno how that works, but I just get an instant feel for their hands once they start moaning and debating the call. You'd think people would try to conceal that shit but they cant. They are genuinely scared shitless with their crappy fuckin hands that I breathe a sigh of relief knowing I got these fools when I hit.
I had intended on playing every night this week, but my g/f starting bitching and you know what, I actually started to miss her too. We live together and I feel really bad leaving her alone. Sometimes she'll call a friend over or go to her sisters or something like that, but I still end up missing her. Guess I'm just a big sap, so I decided to spend the weekend with her instead lol. We'll see how long before I go into poker withdrawal. I'm already making deals with her that I'll go out when she goes to bed, since these games run until 6am in the morning. At the very least she's cool with me playing Monday-Thursday, so that should still give me some good exposure and opportunities to build my roll.
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since these are homegames make sure ur having fun with people, being jovial and not just acting like a dick. they aren't forced to let u play with them. just something I thought to mention from the tone of your writing here ^^
anyway, as always, good luck duderino |
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NewbSaibot United States. Feb 19 2010 16:41. Posts 4948 | | |
Oh yeah I'm totally chill at the table, my tone of writing is just how I *feel* inside when I think about these people. I dont act arrogant or do anything to piss someone off personally. None of these guys play on the internet. I've only heard them comment on online play once, and the general consensus was that online play is stupid, without explanation. Of course I come from the LP school with a few CR/DC vids under my belt, and they just arent used to that. The only time I got a little tilted was the first time someone bluffed me off JJ. I raise UTG and some guy snap 3bets large. I've only seen one hand where he 3bet and it was QQ, so I'm not thrilled about the prospect but I call OOP. Flop comes rags, I check, he immediately bets huge. I call, we both check turn, river comes a king, I check and he against insta-bets huge. I put him in AK and cursed out loud about how "they always get there" and muck. He shows me 57o face up like he's a badass, and I just said to him "wow, you know I always have a good hand" implying that him bluffing me is just suicidal. But that was the first large pot I got bluffed out of. Now I kinda come to expect it, and am ready to make some big calls, and some thinner value bets as well.
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NewbSaibot United States. Feb 19 2010 16:45. Posts 4948 | | |
One other thing I'm kinda happy about, is the hosts of these games have all taken me aside or called me personally after I cashout and just been very appreciative of me showing up. Not sure what to make of that, but they're just like "Hey thanks for coming out, I'm really glad you made it", and it all seems very heartfelt. Maybe they're just trying to keep a good game going, but they seem to like the fresh dynamic I bring to the table. One of them even asked me to rate his game and tell me what I think of his setup. He then later asked me about a hand I folded preflop, and whether I would have gone allin vs this guys shove considering how the flop turned out, almost as if he was asking for advice lol.
Oh well it's probably all in my head, but just feels good to know the hosts actually want me personally coming to their games. |
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