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Mariuslol Norway. Dec 25 2009 08:00. Posts 4742 | | |
Intro
- To become the best player we need to make the best educated guesses. Transform ourself into pseudo superusers.
- To do this we'll use
* Position
* Bet! Sizing
* Combinatorics
* Different lines
To help us define an opponent's range.
- What makes people better is that they can estimate an opponent's range more precisely.
Fundamentals
- The variables you should take into consideration before making a poker decision:
* Hand range: A set of holdings your opponents may have based on their positions and actions in a hand.
* Fold equity: Is the percentage of the time you win the pot without a showdown.
* Expected value (EV): Is the average win or loss on a specific hand.
- Naturally you should continue in hands where your equity is high and typically fold in situations where it is low.
- Equity should be first thing you think about before you decide to check, bet, or fold
Combinatorics
- Combinatorics = Combinations of hands
- In hold'em there are 1326 possible hand combinations:
* Because there's no difference among the six possible combinations of AA or the sixteen of 72o, the number of hand combinations can be reduced to 169
- How to find Combinations
Unpaired hands
Step 1: Find total number of cards
Step 2: Multiply available cards
Step 3: Add each product
Example: How many combinations of AK and AQ are there on A25 flop?
Solution: (3 Aces)(4 Kings) + (3 Aces)(4 Queens) = 12AK + 12AQ = 24 Combinations
Paired hands
Step 1: Find total number of cards
Step 2: Solve C(C-1) / 2
Step 3: Add each quotient
Example: How many combinations of 22 and 55 on an A25 flop?
Solution: 3x2/2 + 3x2/2 = 6
Common Low/Mid - Stakes Leaks
- Most obvious reasons why low to mid-stakes players are worse than high stakes players is that they can't read hands well.
* Less aggressive and don't fight as much for pots.
- As you become better you'll realize no one ever has anything and you should battle for more pots.
Limped pots
- Rarely do players in early position lead out.
* They check and when late position player bets, they fold and move on to other tables.
- 90% of low-stakes players do not fight for limped pots. They check-fold if they don't hit anything.
- Limped pots are the easiest in the world. No one fights for them, no one cares.
- Steal any pot which isn't coordinated or draw heavy. If you get a call and a high card falls on the turn, fire again. (People usually never limp with J,K,Q,A's
Image
- Players don't use image enough
* Especially nits
* Nits should semi bluff more often
* Also two and three barrel more (Since nits never bluff in big pots, when they do, it's hard to call them down.)
* Nits should also fold TT and JJ more often when facing aggression. (When you're a nit, everyone knows you're a nit.)
- Generally, the majority of players should treat JJ like 99 and give both same value.
* Most of the times when we get either of these hands in on the flop, we are either against sets, overpair or a draw that has atleast 40% equity.
Pot Patrole
- Next time you're in a hand and want to check back the turn with top pair, medium kicker or an overpair, BET!
- Good players peel a lot of flops, because they want to steal on later streets. But almost always they have 5-9 outs, therfor you should bet.
- Betting the turn also makes you a tougher player.
- A common thing among low to mid-stakes players is checking behind on the turn after betting the flop on an open ender or flush, because they want to see a free card.
* Like saying "I want to lose 38 out of 47 times"
- When you check behind on the turn after betting a draw heavy flop. Villain will know your range is weak, and can play well vs you.
* With a draw himslf, bet the river to move you off your hand.
* If he has a good pair, check call your bet.
- High stakes players like to bet enough on the turn so that they'll have the correct odds to call if they get check-raised all in.
* In addition, by betting, leaving small amount behind, it shows you're committed and discourages your opponent from making a play at you.
* If he does shove all in (doesn't happen often). You can call and hit your outs and tilt him.
Balancing
- The idea behind balancing is to make yourself a tougher player so people can't accurately put you on a hand.
- No point balancing when people choose to ignore it.
- In short, up to 3/6 against almost everyone, just play.
* Bet when you tihnk an opponent's range is weak (strong) and check (or fold) when you think it is strong.
- Start balancing 5/10 and higher.
Playing Out Of Position
- Poker is a game where you make money by avoiding difficult spots with marginal hands.
- Nevertheless, people still like to play hands out of position.
- The reason it sucks is because we don't have a lot of choices:
* It's hard to manage the size of the pot
* Infinitely more difficult to run a three-barrel bluff oop than in position because villain could be flatting with the nuts 3 streets.
*Harder to extract value
*Can't choose to see a free showdown on the river and we win fewer pots.
- Simple advice: Fold!!
Showdown Value
- On a T28r board we should be more inclined to showdown with AK than A5 because AK dominates more hands if it improves.
* It also has twice as many outs against top pair.
- We should bet A5 because this causes A6+ type hands to fold and we rarely improve.
Leveling
- Players try to out level themselves too much
* If he's a nit, he's got the nuts, 2nd nuts or in rare cases 3rd nuts.
Backdoor Draws
- Players don't value backdoor draws enough
* Often we'd rather have a backdoor flush draw by the turn than a one pair hand.
* The main reason is the equity we have against villain's calling range on the turn.
* Can continue putting pressure if we miss river.
* Also balances your overall game. Players will think you are a crazy aggro maniac when you are just playing your equity.
Equity Equity
- Example: 55 on a 9TT board, your equity is horrible
* KJ on a 9TT our equity is decent, and rarely drawing dead.
- We often see players C-Betting 569 with AT or KJ. You do have overcards, but will need to fire 3 barrels because whatever handscall the flop aren't going to fold the turn very often.
Not All Fishes Are Alike
- Against the overly aggressive fish, you can start to call more with marginal hands or wait for the nuts
- The loose passive are bad at extracting value and genrally play passive.
* When this type of fish bets, fold.
* Since they call a lot, make thin value bets.
* Don't bluff them.
- Against those who never fold preflop, figure out what amount they are willing to put in with rags. (5x,6x,7x,8x etc.) until they fold
* And raise the highest you can with your premium hands
- Be more inclined to bluff the passive fish who are willing to fold when scarecards appear
* Increase your river bluffing freq. vs them.
- Against fish who like to show bluffs, and is doing it again, he will do it over and over. (Don't out level yourself thinking "he showed a few bluffs a few hands ago, to get payed off on this on). They don't think like that.
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Sick post, thanks  |
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rednalluk Sweden. Dec 25 2009 08:20. Posts 626 | | | |
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EzPzLmnSqz United States. Dec 25 2009 09:12. Posts 549 | | |
Quick question, for low stakes.
No information on the guy,
Comes in for a raise of 3bb and i raise 3x , then he raises pot size
i shove and he flips over KK vs my KA
Could i fold there, or should i flat call and see a flop?
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morph1 Sierra Leone. Dec 25 2009 09:30. Posts 2352 | | |
nice
good 50-60% from here is "Let there be range" |
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Mariuslol Norway. Dec 25 2009 09:30. Posts 4742 | | |
Standard, with no reads. If you know the guy is a nit with 3bet % of 2% I'd fold, but like you said, no reads on villain. Shoving AK on these stakes like that is profitable in the long run, 3rd best hand in poker, and good equity vs everything except AA, you still have 30% to flop an Ace, + you shoved, so if he didn't have KK, or some other chance, there's the chance of him folding, and he might flip any pairs lower than KK and you could dominate any Ace. |
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exalted United States. Dec 25 2009 09:34. Posts 2918 | | |
lol yeah, somebody's reading "LTBRange..." |
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CruiseR Poland. Dec 25 2009 10:34. Posts 682 | | |
| | On December 25 2009 08:34 exalted wrote:
lol yeah, somebody's reading "LTBRange..." |
yeah just wanted to say the same, these are almost exact quotes from let there be range ;o |
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env0y_nl Netherlands. Dec 25 2009 11:15. Posts 244 | | |
now this is a good post, thx =) |
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EzPzLmnSqz United States. Dec 25 2009 11:22. Posts 549 | | |
| | On December 25 2009 08:30 Mariuslol wrote:
Standard, with no reads. If you know the guy is a nit with 3bet % of 2% I'd fold, but like you said, no reads on villain. Shoving AK on these stakes like that is profitable in the long run, 3rd best hand in poker, and good equity vs everything except AA, you still have 30% to flop an Ace, + you shoved, so if he didn't have KK, or some other chance, there's the chance of him folding, and he might flip any pairs lower than KK and you could dominate any Ace. |
alright, thanks. was just wondering if it was profitable |
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kbis Canada. Dec 25 2009 12:30. Posts 35 | | | |
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RaiZ France. Dec 28 2009 23:09. Posts 1503 | | |
It's funny, i don't want to brag or something (in fact i'm currently on a long breakeven swingy stretch) but most of it is so true... Because i've experienced it before he posted this thread.
Just listen to him if you want boost your redline with missed, marginals hands because there's so much dead money to steal.
What i need to do is to fold a little more often on the obvious bets yet i'm still calling cauz i want to know if i was right or not. Sure it costs me money but hey confidence and experience is what matters the most right ?
Solid thread keep working ^_^
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