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As requested here are all my pots that i lost >50bb this month so far. Gonna record a video of me playing later also, so that you guys could help me improving.
Thanks for any comments.
·1 Maybe should have not bet the riv for value.
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·2 Guess I lost the minimum here. Prolly fold riv?
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·3 Kinda meh. he was not passive at all
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·4 std i guess
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·5 std too i guess?
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·6 now this hand I butchered. normally i 3bet JJ pf but this time it didnt seem rigth against this guys utg open and i decided to just flat it. now when the flop comes i think my JJ still is in good shape usually and so i call and when vick flats behind me i put him on a draw, mainly a fd but he might also have a weak king or something imo. then the turn comes lex bets out so at this moment i put him on AK at least, flush didnt make much sense for him to have but i knew that vick probably has it so i was kinda lost what to do, i thought of raising but i wanted to hit my fh cheaply on the river and hoped that vick would just call behind i guess. then he minraised and i was almost 100% sure that he had the flush, so lex flats and i get ~ 0,16 pot odds or 6-1 which is basically break even for me. but the river bricks and i talk myself into calling because i thought there is still a slim chance that i might be good here but ofc it is not. well:/
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·7 I guess opening this utg is debatable, called his minraise and i hit my dream flop, from there on pretty std.
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·8 Meh pretty spewy I guess.
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·9 cant get away
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·10 def. very bad, im repping a very narrow range and won't get him to fold often. meh
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·11 i 3bet this pf a lot, but didnt feel like it this time. guess i could check behind turn but i thought there was some value in betting. meh when he minraises me like that im probably beaten 90% and should just fold? got away quite cheaply tho
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·12 stnd
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·13 nothing i can do there i guess
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·14 this guy was 3betting a TON.
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·15 meh.
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·16 stnd
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·17 stnd
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·18 really wanted to fold flop, but talked myself into raising this blabla he can do it with a worse overpair.. spewy i guess
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Sicks Macks United States. Aug 07 2009 11:33. Posts 3929 | | |
Post stats and reads. I'll answer these questions as if vs unknowns, but even a basic read makes these all very different answers.
Hand 1 is fine.
Hand 2 I fold pre if he's tight. Calling down is fine if you call pre.
Hand 3 is unlucky, played fine.
Hand 4 is an obv cooler
Hand 5 is fine
Hand 6 is rough, can't fold without a strong read though
Hand 7 is a situation where I actually prefer just flatting the flop (I know his bet is tilting, but he either has AK or AQ and has 3 outs and will fold if you raise, or he has what he has), you can play the hand pretty perfectly in position and he can't, no reason to put mad money in even though your equity is great.
Hand 8 you can squeeze smaller, and just check back this flop, he played his hand like 99-AA, this is his dream flop. Sometimes you miss a chance to bluff AK out of the pot, but generally speaking UTG openers who call squeezes oop are not c/f 944 flops.
Hand 9 you got it in good, obv standard
Hand 10 is really spewy. Nothing scary came out. I'd even check back turn against most NL25 players and just hope to bink.
Hand 11 you should fold turn, but I don't know how to either. Flatting pre is probably best against most players.
Hand 12 is standard.
Hand 13, fold 22 in the sb. If you don't then this is fine.
Hand 14, fine.
Hand 15 fine.
Hand 16 fine.
Hand 17 fold against passive, stack off against aggro players.
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SemPeR Canada. Aug 07 2009 11:53. Posts 2288 | | |
Only read hand 6, but I think it's a much simpler fold than it seems if we think about relative hand value versus "I has a set".
I feel kinda gross but don't lose any sleep over folding on the river. Maybe turn but odds are compelling. Clear call imo if you think you get stacks from the 150bb stack on river (which you usually do given his actions).
Thinking kinda goes back to a bunch of articles I read on MTT play...about how level 2 thinkers (us) give level 0 thinkers (them) too much/too little credit at time and make really bad plays that should be consistently easy. Applied to this situation, I really just like to think:
-Guy donked into two people and barreled pretty big on a draw-completing turncard.
-Other guy called and checkminraised (probably one of those tilting instacheckminraises too =.=).
If you assume both of their non-call actions were for value, your hand looks shitty, especially by the river (moreso b/c of action vs the ace changing anything but QT). Probably just repeating myself like a dumbass now, but you say you think almost 100% of the time you're beat here, so you don't have calling odds. Don't call.
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hand 1 bet flop, turn, river
hand 2 fold pf, as played be more agressive but maybe you can find a fold if he reraises on the turn or something, now you are calling off being behind and not getting value if you are ahead (so better to fold pf) or play more agressive, if your beat you will find out and if not youll get value.
hand 3 fine
hand 4 4 bet?
hand 5 fine
hand 6 flop fold, it doesnt feel right pf to 3bet so you call but on the floop you think you are good and when 1 fires into two and other calls after you call and 1 behind you call? maybe? on the turn..try to get to showdown while getting as much money as possible from holdings you still beat.
hand 7 perfect, def open utg, strong suited ace yummie
hand 8 its 5 handed but i think its a light 3bet vs utg open, much rather 3bet JJ  , also 1 is shortstack and you have to call his possible shove. its suited ace plays well mtw. i would flat pf. but its ok. flop is fine.
hand 9 why c/r??? just bet out like you do with bluffs as well
hand 10 stop on turn. i see no scarecard
hand 11 fine
hand 12 good
hand 13 .. from here all hands are good or even well played. no mistakes. you just get coolered, untill the last hand.
hand 17 you bet he raises you. now i never ever want to fold your hand anymore. but i want to get it in vs his weakest range possible. reraise here again folds out his air/weak draws, gutshots, smaller overpairs maybe? so that sux. so call his 3bet on the flop. and give him the chance to be agressive on the turn again before you shove it in his face. i think in that way you will win a little bit more money longterm.
GL!
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actually hand 6 i think you can fold when vickfou raises on the turn after bet/call given that he has a large stack behind. |
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thanks a lot for the answers guys!
ill do this more often from now on, i want to get a better player, im also recording a video of me playing 4 tables now and will upload later. |
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Thijs1 Netherlands. Aug 07 2009 13:20. Posts 1299 | | |
without stats giving advice on some hands is tricky because someone might be a nit or a moron but here goes.
first off all dont take this offense but you have a fold button i think u play a little to fancy for these stakes, like going allin with overpairs and calling to liberal pf.
Hand 1 i think u can bet the river, i like the turn check, and betting river like half pot to induce crazy calls because i think big bets will only be called by AA or AK ( Against standard person ) agains a donkey or loose caller its a bet bet bet. BTW i like a bigger cbet or do u always cbet 4/7 i prefer always 5/7
Hand 2 fold pf. U get into ugly situations like this were u get valuetowned like crazy by KK AQ AA and you dont get any value out of other hands, maybe a QJ but ill doubt anyone is 3 barreling that hand
Hand 3 call once make a note for next time
Hand 4 ok
Hand 5 ok ( i always call these but when u do you have to get in on these kind of flops even with pair flush maybe flushdraw overs, dont forget these are marginal spots because u can run bad for like a month with these things , so think like i got my money in ok lets move on)
hand 6 fold flop no need to call 3way ( and i think the river is a clear fold the way he played it ) So as u can see youre only hoping for 1 card on the turn , so fold flop
hand 7 ok just like hand 5 cant win them all
hand 8 realy hate the rr because hes utg (i dont play 6 six so might be little of ) but then he also hasnt got a full bi so once u cbet ur commited, dont like it
hand 9 ok
hand 10 dont mind the double barrel but then again the board doesnt change that much ( depends on stats if i double barrel these spots, is he tight, is he likely to checkraise etc so i would say against nits ill check otherwise i bet ) but then on river its a check always no scare cards came only 45 missed no flushdraws, i dont think u will get a fold that often on the river,
hand 11 WARNING BELLS FOR THE CHECK/ MINRAISE FOR THE TURN so ill fold turn
hands are ok
hand 15 Always be aware that the minraise pf, he is kinda short so i think its ok but very marginal, I think you will see a lot of better hands in these spots. . I think how he played it kinda sucked u in hard time but what do u do if he bets flop and u got another person behind.
Hand 17 Do u have a tracker running during poker. Do u do this based on stats or I got ak he is short allin. With no tracker or read i think u need to fold pf. I hate a call pf to his 3bet, he gets it in with all his pair on low flops, he can hit his monkey hand when you still have AK high, is he going to pay of when you hit? I think its to tricky to play AK by calling vs a shortie in these stakes
good luck on the tables turn it around in august
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Thijs1 Netherlands. Aug 07 2009 13:23. Posts 1299 | | |
oops forget hand 18
its to spew, without a read i think i call his raise the flop and fold any non Q turn if he continues |
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Laurentius Netherlands. Aug 07 2009 14:35. Posts 114 | | |
Agreed with Sick Macks the first 7 hands, didnt see the rest yet.
Some extra comments: hand1) if you are valuebetting that river and you think his range is very polarised to like pairs between 7s and Queens, i would bet 14 for value instead of 8. Obv he donkplays/slowplays sometimes and you lose more, but otherwise you can gain a lot more value betting larger.
2) is really readdependent, but you can certainly fold the river against some villains, otherwise fine.
7) really like SMacks line, i think the same go's for hand 5. He's betting weak to keep you in, he obv has a strong hand a lot and isnt folding, and he wont almost ever fold if scarecards hit in a 3bet pot with a monsterhand. And if he has air he just folds to your raise, or you pick up the pot at the turn if he just c/folds. You can play perfectly against a polarised range by flatting. Obv if you think/read is that he plays KQ/AK/weaker draws like this and wont fold to your flopraise, or might slowdown and c/f when scarecards hit , getting it in is more then fine.
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