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The only one I really think I could of done differently is the bolded part in hand 1, the rest are just whines/please kill me/ I think I'm going to go play in traffic hands. Though lemme know if you spot a mis-play in those.
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Stacks $400 effective
Limper fish UTG+1, I limp T8s from MP, 4 limpers behind me including button + big blind
Flop T84r
I lead for 10 into 18, 2 fold
Button who is an european online midstakes player (though didn't seem very aggressive) raises me to $30, big blind folds so its HU
I 3bet to $95, he calls
Turn 6r, pot is ~$200 we have $200 behind
I can't remember anything about how he was acting except maybe that he said "Hmm, 65 more?" and called after a short bit of time.
Do you give up here? Is 3betting the flop bad?
Obviously pokerstove says that I'm a favorite if he can have any set (I never expect him to have an overpair or TT) and any 2pair, but do people/nits aka regs fold all worse 2pair (And possibly the rare T8) to my 3bet?
Board: Tc 8h 4s
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 64.180% 54.29% 09.89% 101583 18504.00 { T8s, T8o }
Hand 1: 35.820% 25.93% 09.89% 48519 18504.00 { TT, 88, 44, T8s, T4s, 84s, T8o, T4o, 84o }
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Stacks are $450 at 1/3. All I know about villain is that he's an online midstakes FR reg on cakepoker. Been playing with him for a bit and he hasn't been splashing around in pots or anything, just looks like a pretty standard tight reg-guy
I limp 77 from UTG+1. He raises MP over me + a limper to $16 (standard). Big blind calls, I call, limper calls.
Flop 79Qss pot $65
I lead $40, guy folds, Cake reg raises to $120. BB fold. I raise to $300.
Cake reg shoves for the $130 or whatever more, I call.
I hung out with this guy and his crew away from the tables and they said its pretty much a cooler, though the cake reg said that he might of folded all draws vs my 3bet due to "deepness". WHAT THE FUCK>??????? Myth also said to never fold. My question is if my lead/3bet is good, since it seems to turn my hand face up.
So when he raises my lead, is his range now..
Board: 7s 9h Qs
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 18.182% 18.18% 00.00% 4320 0.00 { 77 }
Hand 1: 81.818% 81.82% 00.00% 19440 0.00 { QQ, 99, JsTs, Ts8s }
If you add KK, AA I am only 60/40 and I'm pretty sure he's gonna flat call or fold KK, AA
Board: 7s 9h Qs
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.197% 60.20% 00.00% 35757 0.00 { 77 }
Hand 1: 39.803% 39.80% 00.00% 23643 0.00 { QQ+, 99, JsTs, Ts8s }
3) Stacks are effectively upto $400 I raise QJss UTG+1 on a pretty good table, though I get an unexpected 7 callers.
I say to the dealer, "Ok that's good, now could I just flop the nuts please?"
He says "We'll see"
Flop AKThh
Pot is $80, do you lead here? How much do you bet?
I lead for $50 and everyone instantly folded, then the last person to fold, a fish, showed me an Ace that they mucked??????
HE MUCKED A FUCKING ACE????????
Fold bottom set vs raises??
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ShadowDrgn United States. May 23 2009 03:46. Posts 1156 | | |
| | On May 23 2009 02:30 Night2o1 wrote:
I say to the dealer, "Ok that's good, now could I just flop the nuts please?"
He says "We'll see"
Flop AKThh
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In other news, I feel like a useless turd so I'm going to save myself some money and not play poker today. I'm taking my 4th day off for the month!
| | On May 23 2009 02:46 ShadowDrgn wrote:
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On May 23 2009 02:30 Night2o1 wrote:
I say to the dealer, "Ok that's good, now could I just flop the nuts please?"
He says "We'll see"
Flop AKThh
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Rigged.
-EV table talk?
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Maybe, but I say shit all the time including flop the nuts please and then I bet w/o having the nuts cuz like I figure that balances my 'flop the nuts please' range |
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limping is weak
limp/calling and then suddenly going crazy on the flop is obviously a big hand. i hardly ever limp so i can't help you here. |
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[vital]Myth  United States. May 23 2009 04:26. Posts 12159 | | |
3betting flop in hand 1 is pretty terrible. calling and leading the turn is a lot better (particularly this kind of turn), but even that is probably not optimal. you'll see people, even competent regs, raise/fold KT or AT here which is awful so don't 3bet the flop. basically, if he has a worse hand then it's either a draw with fairly low equity or it's a hand that thinks it's best if you flat-call, and since the draws are so unlikely in comparison, flatting is by far the better choice. flat turn and then check/call mode.
check/shove and bet/3bet are both good in hand 2, and i lean toward bet/3bet so that the flop can't get checked around when the orig raiser has JJ-, AK, or some other crap that missed. total cooler 100% and i think you played it perfectly by leading and then getting it in, though i would have just shoved straight away rather than 3betting to $300 or w/e. i also strongly disagree that he's going to flatcall with AA/KK and i also think he might raise with naked JT sometimes, as well as AQ and KQ sometimes. prob around 10% of his range is gonna seem spazzy, being something like random crap AK, naked JTdd or something, etc. any competent online reg is prone to spazzing, never forget that.
yes definitely bet your QJ 100% of the time because ROFL @ the geek folding an ace but usually people will check down A-rag but also call 3 streets with it, which is pretty lol but true nonetheless. def bet this flop hundo percent, just a cooler that everyone folded |
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[vital]Myth United States. May 23 2009 04:28. Posts 12159 | | |
| | On May 23 2009 03:07 gororokgororok wrote:
limping is weak
limp/calling and then suddenly going crazy on the flop is obviously a big hand. i hardly ever limp so i can't help you here. |
limping is good, don't listen to whoever this geek is. and limp/calling then going crazy is not "obviously" a big hand either
the context of a live 1/3 game vs whatever games "gororokgororok" typically plays is "obviously" very different |
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. May 23 2009 06:18. Posts 14026 | | |
something to help you enjoy your day off a little bit more...
(nsfw, not that it applies for you)
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1 flat flop
2 c/r imo
3 Bet is gooD |
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Yaffie United Kingdom. May 23 2009 06:33. Posts 672 | | |
| | On May 23 2009 05:18 byrnesam wrote:
something to help you enjoy your day off a little bit more...
(nsfw, not that it applies for you)
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the one on the left is naturally more beautiful, but there's something about the one on the right that drives me wild! |
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| | On May 23 2009 03:26 [vital]Myth wrote:
3betting flop in hand 1 is pretty terrible. calling and leading the turn is a lot better (particularly this kind of turn), but even that is probably not optimal. you'll see people, even competent regs, raise/fold KT or AT here which is awful so don't 3bet the flop. basically, if he has a worse hand then it's either a draw with fairly low equity or it's a hand that thinks it's best if you flat-call, and since the draws are so unlikely in comparison, flatting is by far the better choice. flat turn and then check/call mode.
check/shove and bet/3bet are both good in hand 2, and i lean toward bet/3bet so that the flop can't get checked around when the orig raiser has JJ-, AK, or some other crap that missed. total cooler 100% and i think you played it perfectly by leading and then getting it in, though i would have just shoved straight away rather than 3betting to $300 or w/e. i also strongly disagree that he's going to flatcall with AA/KK and i also think he might raise with naked JT sometimes, as well as AQ and KQ sometimes. prob around 10% of his range is gonna seem spazzy, being something like random crap AK, naked JTdd or something, etc. any competent online reg is prone to spazzing, never forget that.
yes definitely bet your QJ 100% of the time because ROFL @ the geek folding an ace but usually people will check down A-rag but also call 3 streets with it, which is pretty lol but true nonetheless. def bet this flop hundo percent, just a cooler that everyone folded |
thanks a lot bro
I'll keep the stuff in hand 1 in mind especially.
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it is different in live games, gororok  lol myth being so mean
ty there byrnesam~
ty rest |
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