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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Mar 18 2009 18:49. Posts 15163

So I am a NL5 'reg' now with 5K hands.
first 1K went horrible obviously, I mean who did not get a tilt when they moved up a limit?

After regrinding the loss back at 20table NL2'ing I came back. For whatever reason the decision was to take the limit seriously, 4 table make notes if anyone even farts on the tables and play some fricking smart poker adjusted to every single hand, player and situation.

I even made this sick read according to me( Where I almost always end up All-in or with very big pots with TPTK AK!)
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but according to you guys it was retarded to play it like this at this limit, I will lose money in the long term (While I will probably never be in the same situation with the same history with and notes on the villain rofl)

Anyway I believe you know better, so I simply chucked the 4tabling Y theory poker, and started practicing theory X hardcore.

12 Table ABC Poker, overprotecting and oversized value betting, assuming everyone is retarded, just making notes on villains only after playing in my hand and observing other plays only when I was bored or one of the regs raised and got called.

I also started betting many many hands BU (assuming I got the conditions of nobody nitty and nobody less then 65% Fold to C/Bet stats limping) and sometimes CO (dependend on BU player). I am new in this field, and I yet need to learn how to extract the huge potential value when I actually hit something like in this hand:

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And although this should make me less of a nit the looseness of the players and my conditions still pin me somewhere at 12/10 keke.

Anyways this is the progress so far, and two lucky 3's

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I am up to $200 but I feel the upswing can be a little artificial thanks to those idiots so I am staying at $5 BI's to avoid the usual Tilt after winning period.

My main priority now is to work on the small hand plays, avoid Tilt and grind it up to get to NL10 pretty soon to get closer to limits where I can try some complex reads and tells identifying shit.w

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93% Sure!

Last edit: 18/03/2009 18:56

MayZerG United Kingdom. Mar 18 2009 18:54. Posts 2123

Dont shove there with the KQ, it just pushes out all the marginal/bluff hands and only gets better to call. Which was a mistake i made ALOT at the micros.

Just going into check/call turn and river is pretty good.

I like to hold all the nuts - CrownRoyal

LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Mar 18 2009 18:59. Posts 15163

On March 18 2009 17:54 MayZerG wrote:
Dont shove there with the KQ, it just pushes out all the marginal/bluff hands and only gets better to call. Which was a mistake i made ALOT at the micros.

Just going into check/call turn and river is pretty good.

K on the board in raised pot and two spades? Do you know how many people call with draws and Kx there at NL2 and 5?

I mean I wouldn't do it against a reg, but this station was a clear candidate. I snap raise in 1ms against fishes and before they even start to think they call me with blood in the eyes from their massive top pair

93% Sure!

Last edit: 18/03/2009 19:06

Gadget United States. Mar 18 2009 19:30. Posts 295

20 BI is enough for nl10 i think. I started with 16 BI's.

LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Mar 18 2009 19:51. Posts 15163

On March 18 2009 18:30 Gadget wrote:
20 BI is enough for nl10 i think. I started with 16 BI's.

Not with my C/bet based style it isn't. And I got some tilt issues still, If I will go 20K hands without a tilt then I will go for it.

93% Sure!

drone666 Brasil. Mar 18 2009 21:39. Posts 1826

I'm too stupid to find this KQ hand or what ?

Dont listen to anything I say

NewbSaibot United States. Mar 18 2009 23:05. Posts 4947

I even made this sick read according to me( Where I almost always end up All-in or with very big pots with TPTK AK!)
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Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

PokerStars Game #26069210892: Holdem No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2009/03/17 16:53:10 ET
Table Deikoon V 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: whiterogue1 ($6.23 in chips)
Seat 3: momobaggio94 ($2.37 in chips)
Seat 4: ElBoko ($0.89 in chips)
Seat 5: Sharktime156 ($6.14 in chips)
Seat 6: rokkenroll ($7.66 in chips)
Seat 7: DoC.LemOn ($4.99 in chips)
Seat 8: nano88 ($2 in chips)
ElBoko: posts small blind $0.02
Sharktime156: posts big blind $0.05
Giantfoot: sits out

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to DoC.LemOn KhAc
rokkenroll: folds
DoC.LemOn: raises $0.15 to $0.20
nano88: folds
whiterogue1: folds
momobaggio94: folds
ElBoko: folds
Sharktime156: calls $0.15

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $0.42)

Ah3d6c
Sharktime156: checks
DoC.LemOn: bets $0.30
Sharktime156: calls $0.30

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $1.02)

Ah3d6c9d
Sharktime156: checks
DoC.LemOn: checks

River (Pot : $1.02)

Ah3d6c9dKs
Sharktime156: bets $0.25
nmcharlie has returned
DoC.LemOn: calls $0.25

Showdown
Sharktime156: shows 3c3h (three of a kind, Threes)
DoC.LemOn: mucks hand
Sharktime156 collected $1.47 from pot

Summary
Total pot $1.52 | Rake $0.05
Board Ah3d6c9dKs
Seat 2: whiterogue1 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: momobaggio94 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: ElBoko (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Sharktime156 (big blind) showed 3c3h and won ($1.47) with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 6: rokkenroll folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 7: DoC.LemOn mucked KhAc
Seat 8: nano88 folded before Flop (didnt bet)

but according to you guys it was retarded to play it like this at this limit, I will lose money in the long term (While I will probably never be in the same situation with the same history with and notes on the villain rofl)

Heres why you played that hand bad

Submitted by : NewbSaibot

PokerStars Game #26115223227: Holdem No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/03/18 22:43:38 ET
Table Kenos IV 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: totmacher333 ($15.15 in chips)
Seat 2: kike971 ($13.25 in chips)
Seat 3: pmc1969 ($14.60 in chips)
Seat 4: Icechips1 ($6.15 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($11.40 in chips)
Seat 6: thisaintquin ($10 in chips)
totmacher333: posts small blind $0.05
kike971: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
pmc1969: calls $0.10
Icechips1: raises $0.10 to $0.20
Hero: raises $0.55 to $0.75
thisaintquin: folds
totmacher333: folds
kike971: calls $0.65
pmc1969: folds
Icechips1: calls $0.55

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $2.40)


kike971: checks
Icechips1: checks
Hero: bets $2.30
kike971: calls $2.30
Icechips1: calls $2.30

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $9.30)


kike971: checks
Icechips1: checks
Hero: bets $8.35 and is all-in
kike971: calls $8.35
Icechips1: folds

River (Pot : $26.00)



Showdown
kike971: shows (a straight, Seven to Jack)
Hero: mucks hand
kike971 collected $24.75 from pot

Summary
Total pot $26 | Rake $1.25
Board
Seat 1: totmacher333 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: kike971 (big blind) showed and won ($24.75) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 3: pmc1969 folded before Flop
Seat 4: Icechips1 folded on the Turn
Seat 5: Hero mucked
Seat 6: thisaintquin (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)

See how bad these people are? You cant go around giving them credit for sets and shit when you know they are calling with garbage like this too. Making huge laydowns or slowing down with top 2 in a situation like that is going to be costing you money in the long run, because they are going to show up with everything else in between that you dominate.

bye now