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k2o4   United States. Jan 27 2009 12:29. Posts 4803
My uncle knows I like to game so for xmas he hooked me up with 3 new games: Fall Out 3, Gears of War 1, and Left 4 Dead. So far GOW has by far taken the cake as the best new game. It's the only new game I've REALLY liked and played through till the end since COD4 Modern warfare. I can't wait till GOW2 comes out for windows vista.

After I finished that I tried L4D and was hugely disappointed. Maybe it's more fun online with 3 friends but overall it felt like a childish shooter that was insanely repetitive with no story line. Yeah, it's cool the first time the horde comes after you or you battle a witch and so on, but after that it's all the same thing over and over again - just run through the streets or a building and kill a shit load of zombies who aren't that hard to fight and even if they do start to whoop you somehow you don't die.

I guess I'm trying to say that I played L4D 2 times and don't forsee playing it again, ever.

So I moved on to Fall Out 3. I was excited since it had all these "best in show" awards quoted on the box. The thing is that I really hate RPG's cause I like to be in control during the action, and I like my skill in that point to count. I don't like when a battle suddenly becomes a turn based thing where we each choose a spell and then cast or some shit. I don't like it when it's all about your level or items. I like it when you can still stand up to tougher guys if you have enough skill, and if you level up and get good items the tough guys are just easier to beat.

The only RPG I like is Zelda, cause while you build up items and skills and hearts to make urself stronger and so on, you still can choose to do a FPS type of thing when shooting and you have full control of the sword fighting. Zelda is head and shoulders above everything else though.

Anyway, I started FO3 and it definitely had an interesting story line. A bit too overkill on the character creation (you can pick down to the type of chin you want) and I kinda rushed through assigning my SPECIAL points, but it started off well. Once I got out of the vault I was excited because I LOVE huge landscapes and freedom to do whatever the hell you want. So they've nailed it on that so far. And I do like the way they've set up lock picking and hacking - it's not just click a button to pick the lock, but very interactive and I like that.

But the one fail is the shooting. I love me a good FPS and I was hoping that FO3 was gonna mix that in, but right now it seems mediocre. Maybe when I get better guns or when I get higher skills it won't be so annoying, but right now the gun fights are really weak. First, everyone takes a million bullets to die. Second, in comparison to GOW everyone seems so stupid. No use of cover or strategy to get you, they just kinda run through the open, stand right in front of you and keep shooting. And third, the aimer sux and even when you have it right on them it misses all the damn time. They seem to want me to use this VATS system which is like their version of old school RPG turn based shit, where everything freezes and the I click on which body part I want to shoot and it tells me what % chance I have of hitting, then I say go and it starts a cinematic where I shoot, the other guy shoots back, I shoot again and so on till all the shots I queued up are done, then it goes back to first person. As far as RPG turn based shit goes it's not horribly painful, but I want to be able to hide behind cover and aim and fucking hit, and make up for lack of "leveling" with natural skill.

I think that if they combined GOW with FO3 then I'd be in heaven. Use the system for getting into cover and the same or better AI for the enemies, their version of 3rd person (GOW 3rd person looks tight, FO3 3rd person is off to the side at some weird angle and the character looks very weird), and their version of aiming. Then let FO3 handle the rest and we'd have a sexy ass shooter + a huge world to explore and develop a character in. That would pwn.

Anyway that's my rant about games.

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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Jan 27 2009 12:30. Posts 6374

havent read it but f3 sux really hard

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Python817   Canada. Jan 27 2009 12:38. Posts 2733

gears of war 2 is pretty sick I have it for xbox 360


ShaunR   United States. Jan 27 2009 12:49. Posts 604

Left 4 dead was created and designed to be an online multiplayer versus game. The offline / singleplayer mode is just an afterthought which probably doesnt even belong in the game.

Basically it's sort of zombie versus survivors counterstrike - and it's actually quite fun, at least for a while.

Definitely agree that it's terrible if you just play it for the single player mode.


k2o4   United States. Jan 27 2009 12:58. Posts 4803

Yeah I couldn't get my steam account to find any fucking games so I never played the counterstrike zombie fight, though that sounds slightly entertaining.

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Roto   United States. Jan 27 2009 13:05. Posts 264

I didn't like L4D at all when I first started playing it, but after giving it some time the Versus mode is absolutely awesome, and the teamwork it requires on both sides is ridiculous.

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SIG1   United States. Jan 27 2009 13:15. Posts 651

i jus got l4d. how does the zombie side work? do u jus control 1 zombie or is it like microing a bunch of lings.


Kilay   Netherlands. Jan 27 2009 13:20. Posts 1960

Use a sneak build on Fallout 3 and all the enemies you will ever meet from around when you hit lvl 12 or so are good game. I even get 1-shot kills on Super Mutant Masters (about the strongest fuckers in the game) 9/10 times. I still have to finish the last mission of the storyline but I want to finish all the side missions first because I think I won't play it again for quite some time after finishing the story line.


k2o4   United States. Jan 27 2009 13:42. Posts 4803

wait - a sneak build meaning put all my points to sneak every time I get a chance to assign them?

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terrybunny19240   United States. Jan 27 2009 14:16. Posts 13829

fall out 3 is awesome

it probably isn't as developed FPS wise as GOW or whatever, but there is plenty of need to take cover and aim and shit.

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ShaunR   United States. Jan 27 2009 16:31. Posts 604


  On January 27 2009 12:15 Seobombisgay wrote:
i jus got l4d. how does the zombie side work? do u jus control 1 zombie or is it like microing a bunch of lings.



You spawn as a boomer, hunter, or smoker. When you die, you respawn in about 25 seconds. With 4 players the game arranges it so it's typically 2 hunters, 1 smoker, 1 boomer. Oh and often times once per map one of you gets to play as the tank - which is pretty awesome.

For each map in the campaign each team plays once as survivors, and once as infected. The further you get as survivors, the more points you get.


k2o4   United States. Jan 27 2009 17:39. Posts 4803

ok now I gotta get online and do some L4D and see if it is better that way. I hope so cause I don't want it to be a waste.

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