Roll destroyed again.

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sweet a cooler, no comment necessary.
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What is up here? opinion please.
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Seriously.

Blah, I'd love to be able to give advice and help people in return for the help I get here, but I am afraid to even comment on nl10 hands when its obvious that nothing from nl10 translates to nl25?

roll $496. <$500. Again. I have $162 in rakeback coming sometime.. bleh I don't know.

I've never won a dollar on FTP, I'm going to play some nl10(I can beat the rake and still make like 3BB/100 and this is just an experiment) and see if I can even win there. Maybe I have some inexplicable, severe subconcious block at ever playing well at FTP.

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#1 is bad... you are UTG raiser and got reraised.. then you got raised on flop ... ppl dont do that with JJ ..
wtf do you think he have + you are little deeper

#2 should be cooler.. but i dont like how you played this at all

hand 1 is really all about folding out hands that beat u and getting action from hands u beat. by doing what u did it looks liek the opposite imo. fr is pretty tight so keep that in mind if 1010 or jj ak is gonna want to play it that fast.


hand 2 is bet strong flop check/call turn/cfold o a river shove or big vbet. meh edited this coz i mixed up stack sizes and shit lol

hand 3 you dont beat any ace except ax on the flop or a 10, the fact that he flats ur raise ur equity vs any naked ace diminishes almost totally by the turn. just call flops with ur ace and let any non ace hand hang himself. im really not a big fan of bloating ace flops if i have a hand with good showdown value, imo its really good for bluffing a nit out of his weak ace but if i had a10 or aj id be extracting value from hands i beat rather than similar ace types.

without just commenting on hands, i don't think the jump from nl10 to 25 is as big as you are letting yourself believe. there's more regs of course, but still plenty of morons you can target...

nl25 is still retarded last time i checked. just play better, no need to be squeezing trash 3betting light and what not. just play solid thinking poker ull be fine, use good common sense instead imo, it really beats any vid out there if ur playing 25nl.

hand 1, dont stack off unless yellowvic is a fucking idiot

hand 2 looks good to me, you got really unlucky that you got one of the 6 bad turn cards (being an ace or a queen) which hits like 15% of the time so i think check/calling is better

Should I flat flop or just fold hand1 here?
Its so weird to 3bet and then c/r.. it doesn't make the least bit of sense to me. I guess I can see it being a monster only though.. "this board is low and he probably missed it so I will just check or raise if he bets" (and let me suckout if I check behind?) I guess it is a perfect play against someone who holds TT-KK (he had AA here)..

I don't get it? Forget trying to understand it and just know that 3bet -> c/r is probably AA/KK/set+ and respond accordingly?

Hand2, whamm I don't understand how I could possibly bet big on the flop and fold at any point afterwards.. I'd have like $8 behind in a huge pot..? Even with my small bet I figured it'd be awfully hard to fold to a shove of $13 in a $30 pot?


Thank ya peeps.

Reads on regulars are important at Nl25 FR at FTP in a way they aren't at nl10. I haven't played FR in a while, but I remember that Gerrard (hand 2) is a massive nit in 3bet pots. He's not calling your flop bet with JJ, AQ or AK, you can c/f any turn, let alone an Ace. Also, if you want to play overpairs like the nuts you need to move to 6-max.

I don't really play full ring, but in Hand 2 I think you should bet the flop bigger because you bet 7.5 into 16 which is less than half pot. If you bet the flop bigger then the hand will play itself and it's a cooler.

Yeah, I'm having the same problem as you. I can beat nl10 pretty easily, but every time I switch to NL25 I get destroyed, mainly by coolers. I think the problem is that the bet sizes are just so much bigger, so it's a little scary. One thing that seems to help is if I don't look at my results while I'm playing, because otherwise I get too concerned with small swings.

H4: what did you put him on JT? did the fact that you picked up an open ender contribute to you calling all in? i dont like calling the shove after he led from the blind and called your raise on the flop, honestly i think stacking off with tpgk is pretty gross here and the fact that he turned out to have a weirdo hand doesnt change that

On December 01 2008 13:51 Sicks Macks wrote: Reads on regulars are important at Nl25 FR at FTP in a way they aren't at nl10. I haven't played FR in a while, but I remember that Gerrard (hand 2) is a massive nit in 3bet pots. He's not calling your flop bet with JJ, AQ or AK, you can c/f any turn, let alone an Ace. Also, if you want to play overpairs like the nuts you need to move to 6-max.

I was just thinking about this (again) and its something I know but keep spazzing out with. Specifically the QQ hand vs yellowvic(1st hand I think). My first reaction was fold.. I don't know, I suppose its some kind of discipline problem I need to focus on.. I'm going to fold more..

About Gerrard, ya he's definitely a big nit, but I've seen him spazz out and shove JJ when he flopped an overpair and got c-bet into (lol just like I seem to do..sigh). This time with the Q on the flop I knew I was dead or splitting vs KK though..

On December 01 2008 14:15 TedHastings wrote: H4: what did you put him on JT? did the fact that you picked up an open ender contribute to you calling all in? i dont like calling the shove after he led from the blind and called your raise on the flop, honestly i think stacking off with tpgk is pretty gross here and the fact that he turned out to have a weirdo hand doesnt change that

Uhhhmm AT, QT, and bluffs argh, occasional worse ace.. I thought AQ, TT, 99 would raise flop. I only called because the OESD for backup if he showed me better. I didn't realize how bad of shape I was in vs ace rag, though..gah.

Ya it was a shitty board for my hand and that probably tilted me a bit

hand 1
call or fold....i might lean towards fold until i know how stupid he is cus so often they show AA/KK here...im certainly not stacking off like that till i know better

hand 2
id probably just shove flop cus its not that much more than a pot size bet and at least you can rep a missed AK

hand 3
kill skalansky

hand 4
if im raising flop its for value against a retard who i know is a retard, otherwise i call cus we have a hand and against unknown we do not know the strength of his hand yet as he donked kinda strong
that ten isnt really a great card for you

hand 2 you cant give odds for a peel in a 3betpot on this type of board coz its really polarized for his range and yours so giving any elbow room for him to give you a massive headache like this one

Hmm thanks guys. I pay attention even if I don't reply to you specifically btw ^^

I am too obsessive about raising up donk bets too I reckon..

lol roll $430

dude you might want to take a couple days off or something especially if you are talking yourself into calling hands when you know you shouldnt, relax for a while and let the rakeback come in because that will give you a psychological boost just to see your roll back over $500 then come back to poker refreshed and ready to play your A game

I like the way you think. I think I will just chill at nl10 instead though... >< hopefully I can still beat this limit