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TwistedEcho    United Kingdom. Jan 26 2008 22:50. Posts 3539
So friday i was experimenting with playing more hands, getting into more multiway pots preflop and really raising my hand selection for destroying limpers. It was working ok until about 4k hands into the session when i started getting carried away and spewing - but i def think i can play a looser style and win more money, i guess i'd need to play even more hands to work out exactly how loose is optimal.

Sat i played two 3k hand sessions during the day, and was basically breakeven. I had some dumb 2p2er who i keep berating for a nit attempt to 'outplay' me, which involved us getting it in on a 245ss board, me with AJs and him with QTs. Then he raises button with A4c, i 3bet SB with AQd which is prob one of the worse hands im doing it with since hes a nit and doesnt steal enough. He calls with A4c (lol) and i checkraise allin on 942dd board and he snaps. So horrible since my range is 99/QQ+/flushdraws.

Its pretty funny how most of the regs notice aggressive players since they all use pokertracker, but they all suck at adjusting to it and generally end up making retarded plays. There is one reg who keeps trying to fuck with me, but since i recognise this just ends up with me getting my money in ahead like always and trapping him.

I decided 6k hands wasn't enough, so 16 tabling while i watched last 5 episodes of amazing race since i'd fallen behind. I was going to play 10k hands today, but i really don't care about playing 10k or 9k, both gives me a nice jump in the bet. Again i'm playing even more hands preflop and i'd expect my vpip to settle around 20 or so for FR.

Jan 25



Jan 26



Position stat screenshot for all hands (probably not quite accurate since im much looser now than i was before



So now i've played 71638 hands, and perfectly on target. Only way i could lose this bet is monster tilt and dropping below 3ptbb, but i doubt that will happen. Also its a good thing my friend is nice, otherwise he'd be sitting at my tables running his timebank down everyhand and trying to stack me to get me below 3ptbb!! (im sure ket would do that to me if it was vs him!)

Also someone requested i make a video. I don't think i can make one while 24 tabling on two monitors since it will either not work, or be tiny i assume? I dont know anything about video making, but i might download camtasia and try to do a 24 tabling session on my laptop for a bit. It would probably be without sound unless people really want sound...

Anyway if people have any ideas for video or tips (or a camtasia crack!) PM/comment below.

Thanks!

EDIT TO ADD BEST HAND OF THE CHALLENGE YET

(note: was on phone at the time so river check isn't standard by me, didn't notice i boated up, otherwise lead 100%)

Seat 1: Tienes Leche ($63.25 in chips)
Seat 2: Josecito29 ($56.50 in chips)
Seat 4: TwistedEcho ($259.55 in chips)
Seat 5: Eddie 941 ($78.35 in chips)
Seat 6: qscefb ($39.85 in chips)
Seat 7: MelbourneJoe ($87.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Nashorn ($101.80 in chips)
TwistedEcho: posts small blind $0.50
Eddie 941: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TwistedEcho [Kh Ad]
bigman961 joins the table at seat #8
qscefb: calls $1
MelbourneJoe: folds
Nashorn: folds
Tienes Leche: folds
Josecito29: folds
TwistedEcho: raises $4.50 to $5.50
Eddie 941: calls $4.50
qscefb: calls $4.50
*** FLOP *** [Td 5s 5c]
TwistedEcho: checks
Eddie 941: checks
qscefb: checks
*** TURN *** [Td 5s 5c] Kd
TwistedEcho: checks
Eddie 941: bets $5
qscefb: calls $5
TwistedEcho: calls $5
*** RIVER *** [Td 5s 5c Kd] 5d
TwistedEcho: checks
Eddie 941: checks
qscefb: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TwistedEcho: shows [Kh Ad] (a full house, Fives full of Kings)
Eddie 941: shows [5h As] (four of a kind, Fives)
qscefb: mucks hand
Eddie 941 collected $30 from pot

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ggplz   Sweden. Jan 26 2008 23:07. Posts 16784

keep playing, hero it up for the last few days
win 8k for 30k hands!!!
u can do it :D

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

TwistedEcho    United Kingdom. Jan 26 2008 23:17. Posts 3539


  On January 26 2008 22:07 ggplz wrote:
keep playing, hero it up for the last few days
win 8k for 30k hands!!!
u can do it :D



planning to play sunday warmup and mil tomorrow which will cut down a bit on hands played, but aiming to put in another 9k session on monday which will leave 12k hands for last 3 days.

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MiPwnYa    Brasil. Jan 26 2008 23:20. Posts 5230

you're gonna win the bet ez ;
when you display your PT stats you shouldn't say it's a graph because it's not but who cares
keep going


Zealeo   Canada. Jan 26 2008 23:22. Posts 441

this is in the bag, gj


TwistedEcho    United Kingdom. Jan 26 2008 23:29. Posts 3539


  On January 26 2008 22:20 MiPwnYa wrote:
you're gonna win the bet ez ;
when you display your PT stats you shouldn't say it's a graph because it's not but who cares
keep going



fixed! im a nit about stuff like that too I was actually going to post another random graph, but decided position stats would be slightly more interesting

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Timonga   United States. Jan 27 2008 00:13. Posts 1074

71K hands and 7K profit, you're a beast Twisted. Surprised you're not feeling burnt out yet.

I see that your VPIP/PFR is 17/13, so you're almost raising/reraising every hand that you play. I have a 15/6 ratio, and maybe that's one of the reasons why I have a 2ptbb/100 at nl25 fullring. I think I'm gonna start raising and reraising every pocket pair and AJ+ , especially in late position, and see what happens.

I think an 8-12 table video with sound would be cool to watch. A 24 table with no sound would be fine too.

At any rate, good job man.


TwistedEcho    United Kingdom. Jan 27 2008 00:25. Posts 3539


  On January 26 2008 23:13 Timonga wrote:
71K hands and 7K profit, you're a beast Twisted. Surprised you're not feeling burnt out yet.

I see that your VPIP/PFR is 17/13, so you're almost raising/reraising every hand that you play. I have a 15/6 ratio, and maybe that's one of the reasons why I have a 2ptbb/100 at nl25 fullring. I think I'm gonna start raising and reraising every pocket pair and AJ+ , especially in late position, and see what happens.

I think an 8-12 table video with sound would be cool to watch. A 24 table with no sound would be fine too.

At any rate, good job man.



Hm its hard to explain, i'm actually pretty passive preflop if someone raises. I don't 3bet much and am much happier to just call preflop. Hands like TT/JJ i don't play very strong at all, and often just fold as overpairs if i get double barrelled by randoms, just cause everyone is so tight.

I do abuse the fuck out of limpers though. UTG 45/14 limps, and i have T8o on button, hes getting raised. MP 22/8 limps and someone limps behind, i bump it up with K8h etc. I'm starting to get really loose when i raise the limpers, since even if they call they just checkfold almost all the flops - and even if they do call you can just shutdown unless you get a great turn card to double barrel bluff - and occasionally you'll backdoor into straights/flushes/trips/2p and win a nice pot

I'm certainly not going crazy in raised pots though, i probably don't even 3bet enough - thats not the way to go imo, but if no one else has shown aggression (like limpers) then you can go nuts and just keep raping them. Also best to pay attention to their stacksizes, since ive popped it up a few times when the first limper has like 15bb and got commited with some random trash hand - but if they have like 20bb+ its fine since they limp fold way too much. The fewer tables you play the more attention you can pay to things like this, and really punish the weaker players.

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Timonga   United States. Jan 27 2008 06:58. Posts 1074


  On January 26 2008 23:25 TwistedEcho wrote:

Hm its hard to explain, i'm actually pretty passive preflop if someone raises. I don't 3bet much and am much happier to just call preflop. Hands like TT/JJ i don't play very strong at all, and often just fold as overpairs if i get double barrelled by randoms, just cause everyone is so tight.

I do abuse the fuck out of limpers though. UTG 45/14 limps, and i have T8o on button, hes getting raised. MP 22/8 limps and someone limps behind, i bump it up with K8h etc. I'm starting to get really loose when i raise the limpers, since even if they call they just checkfold almost all the flops - and even if they do call you can just shutdown unless you get a great turn card to double barrel bluff - and occasionally you'll backdoor into straights/flushes/trips/2p and win a nice pot

I'm certainly not going crazy in raised pots though, i probably don't even 3bet enough - thats not the way to go imo, but if no one else has shown aggression (like limpers) then you can go nuts and just keep raping them. Also best to pay attention to their stacksizes, since ive popped it up a few times when the first limper has like 15bb and got commited with some random trash hand - but if they have like 20bb+ its fine since they limp fold way too much. The fewer tables you play the more attention you can pay to things like this, and really punish the weaker players.



Hey thanks Twisted, I just saved your post. Good stuff.

On the AK hand, why didn't you do a c-bet on the flop or lead the turn? Also, let's assume you do a c-bet on the flop and the villain just calls your c-bet. The turn is a K, you then lead the turn now that you have TPTK and he reraises you. Assuming you don't know the villain well, are you stacking off here with TPTK? Or are you putting villain on a 5, maybe even K10, and folding? Thanks.


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jan 27 2008 11:12. Posts 8915

Yeah I dont think 24 table vid is such a good idea, 12 table would be cool though.


TwistedEcho    United Kingdom. Jan 27 2008 14:09. Posts 3539


  On January 27 2008 05:58 Timonga wrote:
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Hey thanks Twisted, I just saved your post. Good stuff.

On the AK hand, why didn't you do a c-bet on the flop or lead the turn? Also, let's assume you do a c-bet on the flop and the villain just calls your c-bet. The turn is a K, you then lead the turn now that you have TPTK and he reraises you. Assuming you don't know the villain well, are you stacking off here with TPTK? Or are you putting villain on a 5, maybe even K10, and folding? Thanks.




I bet the flop sometimes, i check sometimes. I think they had fairly tight looking stats at the time, so their range is more likely pairs/big cards and its unlikely a cbet is gettin them both to fold. I could double barrel but people dont like folding 88 on a T55 board.

The turn i lead sometimes, check to trap sometimes. If im ahead they really dont have many outs to suckout. Plus i was on the phone not paying attention. I would have lead almost all rivers if i was paying attention.

If i'd cbet, id def bet/fold the turn. At 100nl pretty much no one is floating or making moves, so when they raise the turn they have 5x/KT or maybe TT, but in their eyes TT >>>>>>. 5x so they are more likely to coldcall TT to trap again, but raise with 5x. So i'd just fold AK when they raise that turn

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