Defeated... For Now

gl man, I feel the same moving up to NL50, keep taking shots, but trying too hard and losing. I'm going to go for 40 buy-ins and I think the bigger bankroll will really help me feel comfortable

Hey man looks like you lost less than 5 buyins at $200NL. I dont think its a big deal, though I know exactly how you feel about moving up. I'm the same as you are only at $50NL. I'm super confident there, putting people on hands and the coolers really dont get to me. I tried a little bit of $100NL and tilted for some reason, blew a buy-in and just said 'thats it ur not ready'.

I dont think there is a big difference from $50NL to $100NL other than the amount of money, so I suspect it could be the same for you. I think moving down for now is good for you, and take a shot later on. Eventually, you'll wind up taking a shot and hit a 5k hand heater and be up like 5-6 buyins. Then you'll feel better because you're now gambling with profits from the level you're taking a shot at.

Anyhow, gl with it man I think you'll start beating $200NL soon.

that's not enough hands to know if you're a winner or a loser

Pfft still way too small of a hand sample. 6k hands is like one medium length session, and -4bi is standard!

You guys are right, small sample, and small loss. However, from what he's described he is'nt ready psychologically to move up, unless he takes another shot and runs well for the first 10k hands. I think this is normal though.

it's not the small hand sample, it's my horrendous play... I'm sure I could be winning @ NL200 right now if I subtracted about 10 gigantic idiotic mistakes that I've made over the last few days... and I can't seem to get myself to stop making them. Plus the overall feeling of being totally lost doesn't help either, lol.

maybe your effected by the money and you don't realize it

if you think you can beat the limit still, try starting your session by playing a couple tables of 100nl, and once you feel like you are playing well, start opening up 200nl tables.

you're not even running bad, like 1.5 buyins under expected

k204, if you want to sweat some sessions with me sometime id be happy to do it. Either me watching you or you watching me.

my msn is billysnider@hotmail.com aim is bsnidez

On January 26 2008 00:19 asdf2000 wrote: maybe your effected by the money and you don't realize it if you think you can beat the limit still, try starting your session by playing a couple tables of 100nl, and once you feel like you are playing well, start opening up 200nl tables.

I just played 1,000 hands of NL100 and did great. Comparing it to my NL200 time I think there are 2 big things affecting me:

1) The money. I'm just not comfortable right now with the limit. I need a bigger cushion or to get my head to chill out. It's really affecting the way I play, cause I am playing scared.

2) 3betting. At NL100 people 3bet light, but not very often, and it's pretty rare to have to 4bet light. And usually you 4bet light one time and they back off of you. Nearly every 3bet pot that goes to the flop you can easily take with a 2/3 continuation bet. Overall, 3betting @ NL100 is easy and I do it better than most. In NL200 3betting is much more common, and not having some strategy to combat light 3betting leaves you in a tough spot. Also, 3bet pots play much differently on the flop. People are trickier and willing to stay in with weaker holdings.


So basically I need to stop being scared + learn how to play the 3betting game. I think next time I do NL200 I will take it on the way you just suggested by playing NL100 first =) I did that the first few times I played NL200 and it went much better that way.


Snider, I'd love to sweat you a bunch and then also maybe have you watch me once or twice. It would be a huge help! Big thanks for the offer!

On January 26 2008 00:20 FoolsPlay wrote: you're not even running bad, like 1.5 buyins under expected

I know, that's pretty sad. I'm losing and I'm not running bad, hehe. More arguments for why I suck.

keep grindin brett i'll be there with u soon

, ur turn will come soon son. lol

don't be so hard on yourself. you had to trip somewhere and I'd say you were long overdue for this update on reality lol. Don't mean anything bad by it though. Keep at it...