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k2o4 United States. Jan 15 2008 16:33. Posts 4803 | | |
I actually won some money in a session through hands where I played well instead of sucking out on people! OMG IT'S A MIRACLE!
I also sat down into a serious card rush and think I played pretty well. Weird session though cause despite winning I was still pretty confused most of the time. I've started playing 2-3 tables cause I've been tilting and spewing while running bad and I realized that I had completely stopped analyzing hands and situations with any sort of depth, and wasn't even putting people on hands.
Till this session I'd lost about 5 buyins over the last 5 days due to tilt, bad play, cold cards and many suckouts. Pretty much any good hand I did make (which was rare) didn't get paid off, and if someone did stick around they sucked out on me. The weirdest part though is that the thing that kept me afloat and allowed me to avoid a 10-15 buyin downswing was that I kept sucking out on people. I think about 85% of my big pots over the last 5 days I won by sucking out bigtime. That's pretty depressing and very strange to me.
Anyway, thanks to my insanely bad play the last 5 days I've started posting a million hands up, and making a lot of posts on the forums asking for help. Unfortunately these are my first hands posted in the Medium Stakes forums and the combination of so many hands and so many bad plays has created an Anti-k2o4 movement amongst some of the posters there. I apparently suck very badly and am wasting peoples time. Ouch.
But life goes on. Somehow I will find a way to live without their approval!
Good news is that playing so few tables has gotten me back into THINKING rather than spewing, which is awesome. Still have some Q's though and since I've already posted a million hands in the forumz today I figure I'll just post em here in my blog where the haters will have no reason to hate on em. Like always, help is much appreciated. All of these hands have the results cause I'm not in the mood to repost em - I posted em using the TL handposter tool while I was playing.
1) Like I said, I sat into a hot run of cards. I hit KK as the first hand on one table and like the 3rd hand on a second table. I followed the exact same line on both tables with 2 different results. I think I played them ideally but I'm curious if there's any situations where slowing down on turn with a smaller bet or a check is a good move. Here are the 2 hands:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/361970
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/362057
2) I'm pretty sure this is a clear fold as played. I am curious if this is ever a flat call though... I often raise leads into if I have a hand or if I have a draw, or if I think it's a weak lead trying to push me off when I have air. So with an OESD + 1 over I felt like a raise was right here. I'm guessing everyone will call this standard, but I wonder if it ever makes sense to flat in this spot.
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/361976
3) One of my early hands vs this guy. I later learned a bit about his bet sizes which would have made this easier, but at the time I was confused to no end. Assuming you had just sat with this guy, how would you respond facing this line?
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/361990
4) I think I messed up here by betting the turn. Any weaker hand is definitely folding and I'm probably only getting a call here from like AJ, 79, a set or a flush. Checking allows 9T and 78 to draw and possibly pay me a bit more when they miss, and allows junk jacks to pay off a small river bet. I dunno, my standard is to keep betting but I wonder if I just folded out all hands that I beat with that bet.
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/362016
5) Here I really think I made a mistake with the turn bet. I figure I need to check and give him the chance to make a flush, and if he has a set he'll get it in on the river with me anyway. Plus, I tend to check weak there.
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/362028
6) This one is funny cause if he's telling the truth I just got him to fold the same hand as me. On the flop I go "HELL YES" and feel like I'd love to get it all in right there. But I decided to flat his raise and go for the CRAI on the turn... but that K does suck cause it boats it up and my only hope is the str8flu. Mmm, probably bad to CrAI there, but if he was telling the truth it probably worked out for me.
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/362035
Thanks all for any help. Still learning here and know I have a long way to go. But I feel a lot of improvement so I'm happy despite being stuck between $5,000 and $5,500 for the last week.
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Silver_nz New Zealand. Jan 15 2008 17:12. Posts 5647 | | |
"But life goes on. Somehow I will find a way to live without their approval!" lol, this is an awesome line, good attitude xD
1. I think given the way you play just betting strong gives them the best chance to make mistakes eh?. depends on type of opponent.. if they like to float and rebluff to get out of line, of if they get out of line by just stationing where they shouldn't
2. hmm, In my experience strong leads from good players are often sets. but in anycase i don't think you should raise the flop unless you want to get it in... raise folding just gives away too much money.
3 I would be wanting to play a small pot with such a weak hand out of position, so I wold just check-call down unless he bet too big.
4. depends on player.. i think its a good value bet vs a station.
5. I hate doing it but really might be a good time to weakbet 1/3 pot. just to get more value from all his range
6. if he folds straights there... then wow. I think it was well played
how did you manage to get stuck $5000 though? 50 buy-ins wtf? x_x |
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whamm! Albania. Jan 15 2008 17:53. Posts 11625 | | |
i think he wants 30bi for 200nl. gj keep it up man. |
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k2o4 United States. Jan 15 2008 17:54. Posts 4803 | | |
| | On January 15 2008 16:12 Silver)Z( wrote:
"But life goes on. Somehow I will find a way to live without their approval!" lol, this is an awesome line, good attitude xD
1. I think given the way you play just betting strong gives them the best chance to make mistakes eh?. depends on type of opponent.. if they like to float and rebluff to get out of line, of if they get out of line by just stationing where they shouldn't
2. hmm, In my experience strong leads from good players are often sets. but in anycase i don't think you should raise the flop unless you want to get it in... raise folding just gives away too much money.
3 I would be wanting to play a small pot with such a weak hand out of position, so I wold just check-call down unless he bet too big.
4. depends on player.. i think its a good value bet vs a station.
5. I hate doing it but really might be a good time to weakbet 1/3 pot. just to get more value from all his range
6. if he folds straights there... then wow. I think it was well played
how did you manage to get stuck $5000 though? 50 buy-ins wtf? x_x |
either you misread or I made a major mistake in what I wrote. I was just up / down 5 buyins as far as I know (lowest I saw myself I was down 5 buyins but I stopped checking my BR for like 2 days to avoid the pain).
Thanks for the hand advice =) |
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Silver_nz New Zealand. Jan 15 2008 18:09. Posts 5647 | | |
the last line of your blog post says you are stuck $5000 for the last week right? |
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k2o4 United States. Jan 15 2008 19:27. Posts 4803 | | |
| | On January 15 2008 17:09 Silver)Z( wrote:
the last line of your blog post says you are stuck $5000 for the last week right? |
stuck in between 5,000 and 5,500 as the size of my total BR. Shouldn't have used the word "stuck" cause it has special meaning in the poker world =)
My BR has been in betweetn 5 thousand dollars and 5 thousand 5 hundred dollars, fluctuating up and down =) |
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