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k2o4 United States. Dec 12 2007 20:45. Posts 4803

So went down to 5 tables. Much better so far. Had a winning session going earlier till I got sucked out on twice for big pots and then donked a stack pushing AQs preflop.

I realized why I was losing so much - I wasn't playing poker, I was just trying to be a poker bot and nutpeddle. Wasn't analyzing a damn thing, wasn't making reads, wasn't paying very good attention to peoples tendencies. Too hard to do that with so many tables. It was good to multi table like that for a bit to get my overall hand-speed back, as well as to quickly pound the basics back into my head. But now it's time to really PLAY poker, not just make the standard move over and over again.

This amazing idea of "PAYING ATTENTION TO THE TABLE" led me to make this great read and call. Almost laid down on the river, but he'd been acting a maniac for a while and I figured chances were high that I was good. Here's that hand:

Submitted by : k2o4

PokerStars Game #13823488077: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/12/12 - 21:28:20 (ET)
Table 'Koranna III' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Taxi A7 ($84.05 in chips)
Seat 2: k2o4 ($50 in chips)
Seat 3: shifty803 ($49.35 in chips)
Seat 4: dwlhunter ($56.60 in chips)
Seat 5: nomanirvana ($50 in chips)
Seat 6: ValueKill ($146.15 in chips)
dwlhunter: posts small blind $0.25
nomanirvana: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to k2o4
ValueKill: folds
Taxi A7: raises $0.50 to $1
k2o4 : calls $1
shifty803: folds
dwlhunter: folds
nomanirvana: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $2.75)


Taxi A7: bets $2.50
k2o4 : calls $2.50

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $7.75)


Taxi A7: bets $10
k2o4 : raises $10 to $20
Taxi A7: calls $10

River (Pot : $47.75)


Taxi A7: bets $27.50
k2o4 : calls $26.50 and is all-in

Showdown
Taxi A7: shows (high card Ace)
k2o4 : shows (a pair of Sevens)
k2o4 collected $97.75 from pot

Summary
Total pot $100.75 | Rake $3
Board
Seat 1: Taxi A7 showed and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: k2o4 showed and won ($97.75) with a pair of Sevens
Seat 3: shifty803 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: dwlhunter (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: nomanirvana (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: ValueKill folded before Flop (didn't bet)

A few more hands:

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/335277 - was pretty sure I could stack him if I hit on the river and I was right =)

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/335279 - the BB always folded to steals and I figured that I'd just get 2 folds if I bet but could possibly make something happen on the flop or entice the BB to try and take it away since he was aggressive and I very very rarely open-limp the button. He took the bait.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/335282 - I knew he was weak but wasn't sure how weak. should I have had the balls to raise on the turn or river?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/335283 - This was a pretty nice read... noticed that he didn't continuation bet very much but he check-raised a lot... got me thinking that he was the type to Cbet his missed hands and slowplay the ones that hit. His big flop bet on that board was very suspicious to me and I thought I probably had the best hand. Remembered that minraise article and decided to use it here =)

I told myself that I wouldn't look at my cashier until tomorrow night after playing all day... was getting too upset about being down. Hopefully not looking at my exact BR will help to avoid that sinking feeling that comes when you know you're losing. I'll just check how I'm doing in PT and try to focus on playing well instead of making money.

That's all for now. Here's the graph and PT for today (so far... might play more):

EDIT: Just got the updated pokerEV and it looks like it isn't all on me being a poor player! More graphs for me today...

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Last edit: 12/12/2007 21:49

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Korea (South). Dec 12 2007 20:52. Posts 6817

Good call on the river, but why did you raise turn? I think you are, generally, better off just letting him monkey bluff all his chips to you.

Hm.. Off-suite socks..

k2o4 United States. Dec 12 2007 21:04. Posts 4803

yeah you're probably right. At the time my thinking was "his turn overbet means he's weak, I'll raise him here and probably take it down and at least charge any overcards he has to draw." Plus it also puts us into a spot to stack off where calling wouldn't. Though he may have pushed the river no matter what, not sure. Just not enough experience in these spots... I'm usually folding too quickly even when my gut wants me to stay in.

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NerO United States. Dec 12 2007 22:21. Posts 2402

On December 12 2007 19:45 k2o4 wrote:I realized why I was losing so much - I wasn't playing poker, I was just trying to be a poker bot and nutpeddle. Wasn't analyzing a damn thing, wasn't making reads, wasn't paying very good attention to peoples tendencies.

lol u just figured this out brett?? OMG ITS BEEN LIKE A YEAR sinceyou started playing lololol i <3 u

NerO United States. Dec 12 2007 22:22. Posts 2402

jw wut do you do if he shoves over the top allin on you at your min. reraise on the turn?

NerO United States. Dec 12 2007 22:28. Posts 2402

the graphs confuse me :o

k2o4 United States. Dec 12 2007 23:21. Posts 4803

On December 12 2007 21:22 NerO wrote:
jw wut do you do if he shoves over the top allin on you at your min. reraise on the turn?

I'd probably call there too. I think that'd be easier to call than the river one. The thing that I really didn't like about the river was that the ace came and I thought he might be on a suited ace or some sort of ace.

and I swear, it's so easy to forget the lessons learned in poker. If I take more than 2-3 days away from the game I come back feeling like I have to start all over again. Simple shit like what you quoted in your first post seems to disappear on me if I have too much time away from the game.

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NerO United States. Dec 13 2007 13:18. Posts 2402

On December 12 2007 22:21 k2o4 wrote:

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On December 12 2007 21:22 NerO wrote:
jw wut do you do if he shoves over the top allin on you at your min. reraise on the turn?

and I swear, it's so easy to forget the lessons learned in poker. If I take more than 2-3 days away from the game I come back feeling like I have to start all over again. Simple shit like what you quoted in your first post seems to disappear on me if I have too much time away from the game.

brett you had the same problem in starcraft