10 nl need some help too

PokerStars Game #8910520337: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2007/03/15 - 05:57:51 (ET)
Table 'Albireo IV' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: sizzlapoker ($28.55 in chips)
Seat 2: Assloch23 ($6.70 in chips)
Seat 3: Hoelle99 ($23.85 in chips)
Seat 4: DerFahnder99 ($10.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Sidereal Sea ($9.45 in chips)
Seat 6: Witness99 ($7.20 in chips)
DerFahnder99: posts small blind $0.05
Sidereal Sea: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards
Dealt to sizzlapoker
Witness99: calls $0.10
sizzlapoker: calls $0.10
Assloch23: folds
Hoelle99: calls $0.10
DerFahnder99: folds
Sidereal Sea: raises $0.40 to $0.50
Witness99: folds
sizzlapoker: calls $0.40
Hoelle99: calls $0.40

Flop (Pot : $1.65)

   
Sidereal Sea: bets $0.80
sizzlapoker: raises $1.80 to $2.60
Hoelle99: folds
Sidereal Sea: raises $6.35 to $8.95 and is all-in
sizzlapoker: calls $6.35

Turn (Pot : $19.55)

   

River (Pot : $19.55)

   
sizzlapoker said, "lucker"
sizzlapoker said, "=("

Showdown
Sidereal Sea: shows (a full house, Tens full of Kings)
sizzlapoker: mucks hand
Sidereal Sea collected $18.60 from pot

Summary
Total pot $19.55 | Rake $0.95
Board  
Seat 1: sizzlapoker mucked
Seat 2: Assloch23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Hoelle99 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: DerFahnder99 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Sidereal Sea (big blind) showed and won ($18.60) with a full house, Tens full of Kings
Seat 6: Witness99 folded before Flop

1 votes

Edit: Calling 4xBB with J8?

u could see my other comment at the hh
but wtf if u only call to which cards u will play fr sdtakes?!
this a draw heavy board and u dont want to give em a freecard if u play this hand(i critized it in the hh)then u play it rly +ev never clal and nefver call it coz u could fold to a perfect turn...u r the fav on the flop shithappens mkay!
dont give up playy play play

i called 4 bb to win 100 bb

How to avoid this terrible beat: Fold preflop, you are in horrible position with a next-to horrible hand, there's no reason to play it IMO.

Yeah, I know that it sucks losing that kind of hand but really, it seems like you play too many hands out of position, just from looking at this hand..

I'm not trying to say that it doesn't suck to get outdrawn all the time, I'm just saying I don't think you should play that hand out of position - and definitely not vs a raise.

FOLD PF
RAISE FLOP HARDER - around $4.2
CALL SHOVE ALL DAY EZ

Stop being results orientated, the ten came, bad beat.. it isnt ALWAYS going to come and NO it isnt worth just waiting to see another card because u make it slightly less -ev for his kings in that he can spike a king. You have a strong hand, get it in.

well like mentioned before this is an easy preflop fold or atleast if you think he is a weak player try to 3 bet here but i would advise you to not do it on these stakes and you should know it is never ever a mistake to put your money in as a favourite. poker is just a game of variance but ull see on the long run the money will come ur way. well and about your theory you just mentioned the pros but forgot about the cons. first thing is this board is very draw heavy so dont give your opponent the odds to draw to his hand. and even if he has no drawing hand there are sooo many cards in the deck that could scare a hand like QQ+ AJ KJ ... away from getting stacked here so just play this hand fast and strong

Don't limp preflop. Raise or fold always except when you're on the button and it's a family pot and you have a hand that plays good multiway (low PP.. suited connector.. suited gapper.. you name it).

After this guy raised it's probably best to fold. You don't call 4bb to win 100bb because he doesn't put his stack in all the time, and he has your hand dominated. What are you gonna do when the flop comes J32? Check/fold? So basically the only time when you're gonna play this hand postflop is when you hit 2 pair or better? -EV play right there.

As for your suggestion to play it slow on the flop to find a fold on a scarecard, it's retarded. When you flop 2 pair it's important that you play it very fast because it's vulnerable and you want your money in when you're ahead. Sure you'll lose sometimes (25% in this example), but when you play this hand the exact same way a 100 times (postflop that is) you'll win 75 of the times and lose it 25 times.

Just fold preflop, calling with a hand like this is a spew.

yeah, fold pf
and a call on the flop would be a very bad play on this board because it's very drawheavy.
listen to Twisted advice

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/158611
Read comments here too btw : >

sizzla i have seen you open limp A3o, stop open limping too, dont open limp ever

ur defiantely playing too many hands, just nit up a bit they really wont notice.

raise more hands in position CO/button and tighten up mass OOP. no idea why ur calling a raise with J8 just pitch pitch pitch.