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RaiZ   France. Nov 09 2013 03:16. Posts 1503
Alright, here is the thing :

There is a casino near my town that opens 1 or 2 poker tables (mostly only one) at around 9 pm but sadly I can't get there in time because i'm busy so the table always happens to be full when I'm there.

But there's a blackj's table near it : 4 decks, stand on 17, double allowed, 3 to 2 odds when you hit a Blackj, there is no surrender and finally you cannot double on splitting aces, only one card hit after that. It's european's style so there is no peek.

Considering all of this, and that I learned the wizz.rd of odds' chart, what are my odds to win/lose against the house while I wait for a poker's seat, if you happen to know it ?
I don't plan to play BJ's professionally, I just want to kill time. But if I can win then so be it (I really doubt it though).

Edit : btw there's also another casino that gives 2 to 1 odds, but there is one open poker's table only on a specific day. Still not bad I guess ? But I fear i'll get banned in no time if I get to play there using that chart ?

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Shin-il : Yeah it was very very very good for me too. Rekrul : YOU MOTHER FUCKING FUCKING SON OF A BITCHLast edit: 09/11/2013 03:21

k4ir0s   Canada. Nov 09 2013 12:59. Posts 3476

I don't see how you can get banned from playing by the chart.

with the chart you're probably winning by a few %.

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly 

Spicy   United States. Nov 09 2013 13:46. Posts 1027

Playing by chart will not give you an advantage. Most places will allow you to play by the a hit chart because the house still wins. Given the rules you stated, house advantage is roughly 0.28% (no peek increases their adv to 0.39%) if you play optimal (house also has implied variance advantage meaning they have an effective infinite bankroll vs most players and the player will busto before they do). The only way to be +EV at blackjack is through card counting.

Reference http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/calculator/
and http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/strategy/calculator/

 Last edit: 09/11/2013 13:52

n1ck   Bulgaria. Nov 09 2013 17:50. Posts 308

what Spicy said

Also, card counting is not illegal per se, but the casino has the right to ban you from playing because it's a private property.

The cruelest dream, reality. 

RaiZ   France. Nov 09 2013 23:46. Posts 1503

I'm not sure I can do a card counting, because there's this electronic device that shuffles up cards. I'm not even sure how many decks is there, but I'd guess roughly 2 to 4.
Either way I saw that calculator, thanks for the links. This pretty much sums it up, I have no edge, but i'm glad to give it a hard time so that I can play a little longer while I wait for a seat.

Shin-il : Yeah it was very very very good for me too. Rekrul : YOU MOTHER FUCKING FUCKING SON OF A BITCH 

El_Tanque   United States. Nov 10 2013 03:24. Posts 360

Where I am from, most dealers gladly hand you a chart with highest percentage plays on it...


NMcNasty    United States. Nov 10 2013 13:54. Posts 2039


  On November 09 2013 02:16 RaiZ wrote:
Edit : btw there's also another casino that gives 2 to 1 odds, but there is one open poker's table only on a specific day. Still not bad I guess ? But I fear i'll get banned in no time if I get to play there using that chart ?



2 to 1 odds is beatable without card counting, but I would guess there's a catch.


RaiZ   France. Nov 16 2013 09:46. Posts 1503

I was wrong, It was insurance and not blackjack's odds It's 3 to 2 everywhere. Oh well, still good to kill time though

Shin-il : Yeah it was very very very good for me too. Rekrul : YOU MOTHER FUCKING FUCKING SON OF A BITCH 

RaiZ   France. Sep 14 2014 23:50. Posts 1503

So... I know, I've been back at it again. I just recently got into an argument with the dealer and the floor manager who are somewhat friends now that I've been a "regular". They aren't allowed to say the odds of the blackjack's game but we still into the discussion when we were alone.

Basically they say dealer's 2 is better for them than getting a 9 overall. My feeling was quite the opposite. I'm not the probabilities guy but I feel like I've better chance against a dealer's 2 than a dealer's 9. What's your thoughts about this matter ?

According to wizards of odds there's only when the player is dealt 10 that the chances are better with dealer's 9 than dealer's 2.

Shin-il : Yeah it was very very very good for me too. Rekrul : YOU MOTHER FUCKING FUCKING SON OF A BITCH 

 



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