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nolan   Ireland. Nov 14 2012 14:50. Posts 6205
I think Political Correctness is pretty fascinating. There is a clear 'party line' if you will on what types of things are OK and which are not.

Anyways, being a bored retired poker player I stumbled upon a pretty interesting (to me anyways) e-battle between some people in Vancouver.

I don't want to present links just yet but the basic cliffnotes are that a university group in Vancouver attempted to open a 'Men's Center.' It arguably, is a response to the Women's Centers that already exist and the extensive "Women's Studies" courses taught there.

Anyways, I'm clearly a bit biased in this regard being a male and such, but it had in the past bothered me a bit that a lot of the groups/student unions at myown Alma Mater were certainly female-centric. I suppose bothered is perhaps not the best word, but it was noticeable that there was a general atmosphere of catering to the female student body ahead of the male one. It was common to walk past signs such as "MEN RAPE" and "MEN CAN STOP RAPE CULTURE" etc. I found these a bit troubling then as I do now.

Anyways, I'm typing a whole lot of blah blah to really just to ask something I'm curious and undecided on. That is, does the replacement test hold weight?

The placement test is simple, and I'll use an example from a random Women's Studies facebook page that was linked on Reddit.

'Woman, without her, man is nothing'

Clearly, a lot of woman would fist pump about a statement like this. Many men would as well. However, clearly if you switch the wording

'Man, without him, woman are nothing'

This would be a horrific thing to say worthy of much derision.

My real question though, is does this 'replace Subject X with Subject Y and now watch the reaction' hold weight as a form of argument?

I've always been aware of the whole women's studies/rape culture liberal stuff that's going on but to be fair I hadn't given it a ton of thought until recently. I also hadn't considered how much things such as Men's Centers may actually be neccesary, particularly in a place such as North America where many young men are involved in military actions and exposed to a lot of raw violence.

Anyways I know that wasn't very cohesive but I wanted to get some of this out there and maybe someone from LP digs it and can give me some interesting links or alternative viewpoints on this type of stuff, cause I'm admittedly ignorant to most of it.



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mnj   United States. Nov 14 2012 15:23. Posts 3848

there is no room for a white average male


2c0ntent   Egypt. Nov 14 2012 15:34. Posts 1387

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chris   United States. Nov 14 2012 15:56. Posts 5503

i agree with you nolan. there is a double standard.

if you watch TV in the USA, just about every commercial depicts a man as someone with absolutely zero common sense or ability and it takes a woman to straighten him out. action groups and clubs everywhere are able to bash men. if it was reversed, there would obviously be tons of drama.

Laws, like Title 9, enable women to compete in men's sports if there is not a women's team (if a high school has a men's team but not women's, they must have a women's or allow the women to compete with the me) , but men are still expressly forbidden from competing in women's sports or events. Best example of this is Golf.

There is just a level of hypocrisy in political correctness that everyone seems to just accept.

I am glad you pointed it out, because things like what you mentioned do bother me a bit.

Your blog has gotten better

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nolan   Ireland. Nov 14 2012 16:44. Posts 6205

hey 2content, that was a really nice perspective and quite what i was looking for.

thanks for that!

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Zep   United States. Nov 14 2012 17:08. Posts 2292

It's not a double standard. It's a combination of oppression, opportunity and economics. Most groups are not about oppressing the opposition but rather are fighting for rights/concepts that they've historically not had. Read books or even watch historical shows and see how they depict minorities/women 90 years ago. It's easy to forget how far we've come. It's easy to forget that if it was only up to religious/corporate America, we'd still be in the same fuck-hole while hearing how great they've made our lives.

On a related note, I've been disgusted by people such as papa john's CEO John Schnatter and Donald Trump. Donald trump has been treating Obama like a 21st century Jackie Robinson. John Schnatter has been treating ObamaCare like he's a victim of bad publicity in Upton Sinclair's, The Jungle. It's disgusting and they're on the wrong side of history.

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nolan   Ireland. Nov 14 2012 18:46. Posts 6205

I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say Zep.

What isn't a double standard?

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Nov 14 2012 22:01. Posts 5299

I find racism / sexism hilarious. It's basically a joke to me because i've never understood it. I've never understood what it's like to feel xenophobic.

i don't even know what it is.

Is it pointing out facts about a minority that was oppressed? Because whenever i do that people seem to think it's racist or sexist. Like once i pointed out to a Maori guy that 50% of the prison population is Maori, and he was like "that's racist". Anyway i thought to myself about how fucking retarded that was, 1) it's a fact. You can't argue with them. I make money from judgements all day. if i see a poker player who is chinese i'm gona sit and play with them lol.

I have what some people would be considered racist behavior, but i don't feel racist at all.

I use the word nigger on the internet like 5+ times a day, it's a funny word to me. Not sure why.

i guess i just find overly sensitive uneducated people truly pathetic to the point that it's comedy. I must seem like a mean person but whatever, that's me. I value facts and honesty so highly i don't care.




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2c0ntent   Egypt. Nov 15 2012 06:58. Posts 1387

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Baalim   Mexico. Nov 15 2012 17:19. Posts 34250

whats interesting about politicial correctness?

Everything about it is deeply retarded, nothing makes my blood boil more than watching stupid news casters say: "the F world". holy fucking shit, they treat you like a 6yo child, like you were unable to differentiate and recognize that context is what makes an insult not just the fucking pronunciation of a word.


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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 15 2012 18:26. Posts 8648


  On November 15 2012 16:19 Baalim wrote:
whats interesting about politicial correctness?

Everything about it is deeply retarded, nothing makes my blood boil more than watching stupid news casters say: "the F world". holy fucking shit, they treat you like a 6yo child, like you were unable to differentiate and recognize that context is what makes an insult not just the fucking pronunciation of a word.





pretty sure they do this for advertisers, FCC regulations, or [insert another reason]. so the next time they say "the F word" instead of "fuck", you can probably rest assured they aren't trying to make any implications about your intellect.

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Baalim   Mexico. Nov 15 2012 20:05. Posts 34250


  On November 15 2012 17:26 bigredhoss wrote:
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pretty sure they do this for advertisers, FCC regulations, or [insert another reason]. so the next time they say "the F word" instead of "fuck", you can probably rest assured they aren't trying to make any implications about your intellect.


Of course they are, its just not the news caster that do, its the government/FCC, they are the ones treating its people like children and it pisses me off that people dont get enraged when its government patronizes them

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