it probably is a lot like the medical weed in Cali, so the FEDS can raid and close it but I don't think a lot else will come from it.
Nowadays dispensaries aren't raided by the FEDS, instead, the FEDS send a letter to the property owner saying they are in violation for harbouring illegal activity on their premises and force the property owner to evict the medical weed store = no bad press for the Feds and legal means of enforcement
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i guess federal law covers all states and its the supreme law, state law i dont know its value.. but if we have to start somewhere i guess this is the place, and that music video is a bunch of lies, i mean hemp is good for some products but its value in products like clothes food paper etc etc vs other products is just 0, hemp dries the land so hard its not even funny..
Wondering about the effects of this law, federal law seems to go above state law. I can't imagine feds caring much about possession of small quantities, but which will regular cops respect? Will they still bust you for weed possession?
federal law will not affect any personal consumers, but suppliers and distributors that don't abide by federal law, which is probably something to do with distribution of medical marijuana (basically, you don't have license to distribute/grow marijuana for medical purposes, you get DEA after you)
if anything, looks like federal law is there to protect some kind of monopoly/oligopoly that will be formed after all states/federal law are changed.
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to clarify a LITTLE bit on the complex state vs federal laws issue:
most local cops, troopers patrolling the roads etc, are hired by State sponsored police organizations, and are tasked with enforcing State law. their job doesn't call for enforcing federal law. at least, this is the working understanding that I have for how the country handles state vs federal law.
each state has its own murder laws, fraud laws, etc.
the federal government also has its own murder laws, etc they are use if there is a murder or whatever other crime in a non-state area. For instance, our capital city Washington D.C. ("district of columbia" is not part of any state, and activity there is regulated by federal law. Penalties for murder or shoplifting in one state can differ from another.
On November 12 2012 09:57 uiCk wrote:
if anything, looks like federal law is there to protect some kind of monopoly/oligopoly that will be formed after all states/federal law are changed.
obviously federal law wasn't put in place 30++ years ago for that reason but you definitely have a good point. there could definitely be a problem there in the future Q_Q
TheTrees United States. Nov 12 2012 12:47. Posts 1592
On November 12 2012 09:00 Liquid`Meat wrote:
Wondering about the effects of this law, federal law seems to go above state law. I can't imagine feds caring much about possession of small quantities, but which will regular cops respect? Will they still bust you for weed possession?
In a nutshell the supreme court decided that regulating narcotics should be a federal issue. If Congress wanted to they could put an end to the state's legalizing medical marijuana. It won't happen, though.
Basically the medical dispensaries just need to stay within federal law (i.e. make sure that their product doesn't cross state lines) and they'll be fine. It doesn't affect individual citizens.
On November 12 2012 09:00 Liquid`Meat wrote:
Wondering about the effects of this law, federal law seems to go above state law. I can't imagine feds caring much about possession of small quantities, but which will regular cops respect? Will they still bust you for weed possession?
In a nutshell the supreme court decided that regulating narcotics should be a federal issue. If Congress wanted to they could put an end to the state's legalizing medical marijuana. It won't happen, though.
Basically the medical dispensaries just need to stay within federal law (i.e. make sure that their product doesn't cross state lines) and they'll be fine. It doesn't affect individual citizens.
If you're talking about the Gonzalez Vs Raich case, you got it wrong imo. The SC stated that Congress had the last word weither the growth and possession of Marijuana should be made illegal regardless of state laws, meaning if a Representative introduces a bill in congress and gets a majority to ban Marijuana on the vote, then you're fucked. Morevover, The SC didn't ruled on the legal aspect of possessing and growing Marijuana but on the fact that feds had the right or not to destroy the plants in a state where the growth is allowed for medical use per se ... There are two options: either the status quo is maintained long enough and the legalization of Marijuana wins all the states until a bill is introduced at the House OR there will be a case in which the SC will have to rule on the regulations on Marijuana in states that had allowed it, in this last case, the chances that it stays legal is close to 0.
Odds are exactly 50%: it either happens or not
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curtinsea United States. Nov 12 2012 14:05. Posts 576
From a Washingtonian's perspective . . . .
In King County, of which Seattle is the County Seat, the prosecutor has dropped all pending misdemeanor weed cases, about 175 in total. Possession of an ounce or less will be legal under State Law effective December 6th. What this means is, if you get caught with that amount of weed on you, you will not get arrested (unless you have it in 8 individual bags, then that is another story) and the Po-Po will not take your stash.
As for legally selling it, that is a-whole-nother issue. It will take some time to work out licensing requirements, the State is talking two years. When that is sorted, you can apply for a license and if/when granted, you can sell weed over the counter.
However, the Feds can simply subpoena a list of licensees, and the come and bust them. We have had medical marijuana a couple of years now, and on November 15th last year, the DEA raided a dozen medical marijuana dispensaries.
The notion that the Feds will turn a blind eye is idealistic and naive
tomorrow, for sure
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curtinsea United States. Nov 12 2012 14:07. Posts 576
another note, if you get caught with that weed while behind the wheel, if the cop smells weed when you are behind the wheel, if you look stoned at all while behind the wheel, you will face arrest for driving while under the influence. The threshold for conviction is so low a blood content that you won't actually have to be stoned to test above the legal limit.
This is the biggest flaw in the initiative that just passed. Stoners will rue the day this measure was passed
Federal cops are not all around tho right? Meaning state police cant arrest u but feds can ? Americans have one fucked up system + they can enforce a blood test as someone is stopped w his car? The person should consent to it rly?
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TheTrees United States. Nov 12 2012 16:32. Posts 1592
On November 12 2012 09:00 Liquid`Meat wrote:
Wondering about the effects of this law, federal law seems to go above state law. I can't imagine feds caring much about possession of small quantities, but which will regular cops respect? Will they still bust you for weed possession?
In a nutshell the supreme court decided that regulating narcotics should be a federal issue. If Congress wanted to they could put an end to the state's legalizing medical marijuana. It won't happen, though.
Basically the medical dispensaries just need to stay within federal law (i.e. make sure that their product doesn't cross state lines) and they'll be fine. It doesn't affect individual citizens.
meaning if a Representative introduces a bill in congress and gets a majority to ban Marijuana on the vote, then you're fucked. .
Exactly what I said..."If Congres..."
Bottom line is that it won't happen, it's too big of a risk politically for either party.
Sweden. Nov 12 2012 03:26. Posts 4472
is not part of any state, and activity there is regulated by federal law. Penalties for murder or shoplifting in one state can differ from another.
