I think I got that from Hans Vaihinger, though I can't find the quote. Apparently he got bad press for it, but I've always found it really appealing.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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chris   United States. Oct 22 2012 20:04. Posts 5506
there are really masons, but the masonic social order is not all dark and evil as in fiction. i know a few masons and its a social fraternity. from what i understand of the illuminati, it was started by some radical Austrian guy (I think he was Austrian) back in the late 1800s as a radical branch of the masons, but he was cut off and expelled by the masons.
I do not think anything materialized from that, except in pop culture and in story telling. it's always good to have some shadowy conspiracy laden bad guys ruling the world, or trying to.
there is a lot of symbolism in the United States, in regards to masons, but that goes without saying. the united states was founded by masons. It wasn't by masons, for masons, but those who led the charge, many of them were masons.
5 minute showers are my 8 minute abs. - Neilly
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eestwood   United Kingdom. Oct 23 2012 06:01. Posts 702
quality.
I agree on the marketing thing and ppl just wanting more money & power as the main motiv.
can we all ball
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RiKD   United States. Oct 23 2012 17:38. Posts 9385
Wow, I really should have previewed and edited that shit. It is what it is. I don't think I will be going back and editing but I am willing to discuss and/or clarify the subject or any of the muddled scribbles above further.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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Mortensen8   Chad. Oct 24 2012 14:21. Posts 1845
The thing about the group is that, if you remember a few years ago Obama and Hillary mysteriously disappeared and journalists were led into an airplane etc. you can find that vid on youtube pretty funny... but this all happened during bilderberg and just after Hillary announced she was stepping down.
You can also find tony blair stating he was there lol what a mong.
The point is that democracy is not real and just a circus I think people are even more hopelessly enslaved under democracy since they think they are free and their opinion matters.
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Mortensen8   Chad. Oct 24 2012 14:28. Posts 1845
Do you really believe these people give 3 business days for a BBQ? that is a lot of time to give up in these peoples world for something pointless.