It's Bovada "zone poker" which is their version of "zoom poker". This is all NL50 and it only runs maybe three times per week so I cant get much volume in. I deposited $100 to get my feet wet with the intention of depositing more to play higher stakes, but said fuck it I might as well see if I can run up my $100 a little. My bankroll is actually $646 but some hands havent been importing. Bovada lets you download everyones holecards 24 hours later so there was lots of valuable information to gather about how your average fish plays. In a nutshell, it's just very very weak. I dont really know how to describe it, just stupid random play. They'll minraise UTG with like A3s, or min3bet you with 22 from the BB, limp QQ and check/call 3 streets, overjam 88 after limping from EP, open ship a AJ5 flop with KJo, etc. I'm sorta able to piece together their likely thought process after analyzing the hand, but they're all just so very very bad there's almost no point.
I sorta developed my own "system" that basically involved playing the button as much as humanly possible and then using standard telltale signs of weakness to take the pot. If they dont cbet, I'll steal. If they bet something retarded, I'll raise. I probably cost myself a good 100 pots or so trying to pick off bluffs because I feel compelled to call river shoves when the hands play out completely randomly. I'd say 10% of the time I was right, 50% of the time I was "sorta right" because they were turning their hands into bluffs but probably didnt look at it that way, and the other % I was just owned by the nuts. Many of these spots were easily foldable but I'd call anyway just to prove how bad I run.
Anyway NL50 has been dead for almost 2 weeks now so I think I'm just gonna have to bite the bullet and do what I originally intended to which was move up limits where they respect my raises. I'm gonna give NL100 a shot and maybe mix in some shortstack NL200 to see if I'm comfortable there or not.
First proper fulltime month in years.
Just poker, floorball and gym besides that went clubbing 3x and met family peoples like 8 times and went running with sis a couple times.
I think with the competitive sports/gym and poker dual goals my life seems pretty balanced. Lost 12kg since I got here too 4mo ago and overall feel happy. Even to the tune of pissing my 30+y old team mates off with my positivism even when our team loses 9:3 - people with normal jobs tend to be rly negative I find
next step: nutrition Im at about 2/10 right now so biggest room for improvement.
And of course the Christmas and new year's! I am expecting lots of presents. To me. From fathers of families spewing their holiday money.
Been chilling this past week playing poker on my time off. <3 I forgot how my I enjoyed winning. Made a depo on FTP to play NL2. Found comfort on 12 tables and basically made a point to experiment with strategies.
I started off hot. Winning something like 80bb @ the 2k mark. Major regression soon after. At 4k I swooped down to 18bb and leveled out at 30 at 10k hands.
Moved up to nl5. This time tightening my opening range a little bit, but widening my flatting range, and also opening up my 3/4 betting ranges. I guess I didn't tighten up my opening range cause my stats for the session are 60-40-18.
I wasn't getting folds from light 3bettors when I 4bet. And they always had A rag
Thinking about bet sizing a lot. I know my vbets are bad ott and otr. Im going to try shoving more rivers and see what happens. My 4bets are 2.5x.
NL2 was a lot of stealing ip. Low redline. Lost value betting too much in some places.
My big pots were mostly against spazzes but there weren't many. Winnings were mostly from people c/c c/c c/f'ing.
One more year learning in my path to the 8 gamesby Forrest Gump, November 27
So, as an update of my games. I've learnt some 2-7 TD, Badugi and Razz, enough to beat fish and survive vs regs. But that's not enough for grinding next year. Playing vs regs at 3/6+ is boring and life consuming, and probabbly Im doing worst than break even. So, im going to keep studying in my career and other games next year, while playing some 2-7, Badugi, Razz and Stud8 from tournament series (no more than $500 probabbly) and play with fish no more than 10/20 depending fishyness
So, right now Im going back to my origins and learning NLHE again and waiting for a seven card stud book to arrive. So far I played like 3K hands of NL50 6max lately and it looks easy to beat. I see them somewhat passive with slow adaptation, but its ok for me to experiment some lines. Also, gonna see if I can watch some videos to get more present ideas of the game
I already been posting some at 2+2 as well since this forum is not as active as before, but I just got tired of seeing so much fishy post. Like asking ambiguous questions like how to play a $300 tournament in UK in the -Poker theory- section. Jeez, I just want to see a subfoum where ppl at least did a course in game theory or read a book. Same happens in the -draw poker- section. All hands discussed are from 1/2 and below and sometimes the answer can be found with pen and paper.
Year didnt end, but Im like -2K down. I think is like
-1.5K tournaments (22 - 500)
-500 Stud8 (2/4 - 10/20)
-1K 2-7 (2/4 - 30/60)
+500 Badugi (2/4 - 20/40)
+1K Razz (2/4 - 30/60)
lol at sample size, but I dont see myself grinding next year. Games became tougher at Razz and Stud8, games I tought I was going to grind.
Lets keep learning and enjoying life. Peace
Arteezy now my new favorite player, hes so sick beyond words. I got to see most of the matches, including the semi-final with navi and dk which was quite sick too (4+ rapiers i think were bought on game 2).
hey guys the deal i was on just ended in good terms so im in the need of lookin for another mid term stake.
as u may see in my stars sharkscope i had a rough start but i came from playin eurosites mtts and super small fields and softest games, i have improved a lot since i took part of the stable got coached and played a lot so my skill level is higher now obv.
i can play full time and run up to 100 games per day 4-5 days a week.
im willin to get a stake at stars for turbo 180s (3.5r and 8s) and low stake mtts (up to 22 fo regspeed, 11r regspeed, and 3r and 11 fo turbos) only open to play soft mtts at 888 if the backer is interested.
enough talkin, here come the graphs.
stars last 3 months (as i said moved from playin exclusively eurosites + learnin 180s)
Science time!
A real life researcher in a proper scientific Journal came to the following conclusion in their research
"All beers can be taken in moderation as part of so called "low carb" diet. Translation: Drinking beer makes you shredded
"There is scope for positioning beers as being source of "good carbs" i.e. soluble fibre and probiotics Translation: Drink Beer, Run Faster, Jump higher, perfect food baby
bastards man.
So I think to myself, would be nice to have gym buddy for today...text this dude on my team I even ask him what time HE wants to go. He tells yeah Ill go man make it 1pm.
12:10 dude texts me he can't make it for no reason.
Call my friend, are you in town man? Nah Im away, but If you have time at 5 I'd go for sure.
So I change my schedule I sit there in my running clothes hat ready to run play a sesh dressed like freaking marathon runner, and obviously 4pm he calls me he can't make it.
how hard is this shit just tell me you can't make it I play a poker session in my gym suit like a retard change my time and dude can't make it again? The fuck is this shit.
What's wrong with people now I don't even wanna go where I could have gone mother efin 9am and be pumped all day.
Hashtag need a fucking reliable gym buddy how do I find one dot com
I go running with my sis and went yesterday but she doesn't do weights for some reason, what a girl.
Sustainable live no limit poker (1/2 - 2/4)???by LikeASet, November 23
Herro everybody, pretty self explanatory thread here. I was just wanted to hear from those who have experience grinding live no limit cash games nowadays on a consistent basis and see what everyone has to say about there win rates and what their win rates could potentially be. I am very lucky to have a small card room that is only a 10 minute drive from my house where they have card tables for black jack, three card poker, and pai gow poker and also have another section for a bunch of limit hold em tables a couple plo tables and a couple no limit cash game tables where it's actually 1, 2, and 3 blinds (person on the button has to put in a one dollar blind, small blind is 2, and big blind is 3).
Not only is the game very close by, but the whole card room is extremely soft, every time I look around I could easily be the only in there that's not older than mid thirties. The atmosphere is also extremely friendly and there are a bunch of regulars but not the kind of regulars that just grind all day and listen to their I Pods, but regulars who are there almost every week just to hang out, crack jokes, and play a little gamble. From other sites I've visited I've read people reporting win rates from 20$/hr - 40$/hr from NL 1/2 and of course people reporting ridiculous win rates probably from heaters.
In a nutshell, what's everybody's win rate?, at what live stake?, how often do you guys play?, what do you think is a reasonable win rate in a soft environment?, etc.
Hands v former HS playerby LemOn[5thF], November 23
On Sunday I came back from 400km long trip, hangover as we went drinking sat after our match, tired as fuck from floorball games (One game lasts the same as ice hockey game) - perfect mix of being cocky and tilted for a disaster wipe of my BR.
My thought process was the basic 2 card one that I revert to when I play tilted - I open NL50 tables and this dude sits me - let's play till the fish join, no big deal.
has a ton of hands at 600NL from 2011 ish and a failed shot at high stakes, $400k tourney cashes http://www.highstakesdb.com/profiles/Eduts.aspx
These are the hands above 6bb, as went chronologically:
H1
-don't know him yet, he reps nothing much here and weak regs usually raise give up with air so I float.
Thing this was way too wide and my floating range should have less gutters and more back door flushdraws that I can continue with on the turn + Show Spoiler +
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 17, 11:34:21 ET 2013
Table Valentine IV Real Money
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 2: Player2 $50.00 USD - VPIP: 42, PFR: 36, 3B: 21, AF: 2.9, Hands: 146
Seat 6: Hero $50.00 USD - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 1289471
Hero posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Player2 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Player2 bets [$5.00 USD]
Hero folds
Player2 wins $5.00 USD
Player2 wins $8.60 USD from main pot
H2
This hand made me realize something's off and I started googling him.
- flop is a decent one for check behind imo with the sd value. On the river against nl50 regs should be a call because of the sizing - they usually are polarized when they bet like that and Ank never bets like that. When he used polarizing sizing with a hand like that I knew I was in trouble xD + Show Spoiler +
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 17, 11:34:29 ET 2013
Table Gliese III Real Money
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $50.50 USD - VPIP: 42, PFR: 36, 3B: 21, AF: 2.9, Hands: 146
Seat 5: Hero $50.00 USD - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 1289471
Hero posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Player1 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Player1 bets [$4.00 USD]
Hero calls [$4.00 USD]
Player1 shows
Player1 wins $12.50 USD from main pot
Hero doesn't show
H3
he opened literally 100% buttons and called lot to 3bets so I rly think I have to be calling hands like these pf? I tried playign with 50vpip but I just l
On the river I hate a check call because I don't know what the hell to do so I bet big to try to look bluffy -,- + Show Spoiler +
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 17, 11:34:57 ET 2013
Table Valentine IV Real Money
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 2: Player2 $54.10 USD - VPIP: 42, PFR: 36, 3B: 21, AF: 2.9, Hands: 146
Seat 6: Hero $50.00 USD - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 1289471
Player2 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Player1 bets [$2.00 USD]
Player3 folds
Hero folds
Player1 wins $2.00 USD
Player1 wins $2.86 USD from main pot
H5
So I wasn't 3betting him very much at all - but doing it with a hand like this is a desaster one way or the other. I just counted on him folding a lot pre as I didn't 3b much at this point. little did I know ;p + Show Spoiler +
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 17, 11:36:17 ET 2013
Table Valentine IV Real Money
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 2: Player2 $52.76 USD - VPIP: 42, PFR: 36, 3B: 21, AF: 2.9, Hands: 146
Seat 6: Hero $51.13 USD - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 1289471
Player2 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Hero checks
Player2 bets [$4.50 USD]
Hero folds
Player2 wins $4.50 USD
Player2 wins $7.64 USD from main pot
H6
I got fucken pissed by now he was aggro and I tilted. think if someone 3b 20% we can get in 88 99 but probably not 22.
Problem I have with this hand against someone who 3b alot is that when I call I don't get paid as much, and this guy was somewhat balanced in that he wasn't cbetting too much and did cr some as PFR so I rly hated calling. guess if I want to call wide range and bluff at him it's nice to have pocket pairs and strong hands in my range but I just can't flat hands well v aggro good guys. Because I never play aggro guys that are also good xD + Show Spoiler +
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 17, 11:37:09 ET 2013
Table Gliese III Real Money
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $57.98 USD
Seat 2: Player2 $50.00 USD
Seat 4: Player4 $41.78 USD
Seat 5: Hero $50.00 USD
Seat 6: Player6 $50.00 USD
Player1 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Player2 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Holecards Dealt to Hero [ ]
Player4 folds
Hero raises [$1.25 USD]
Player6 folds
Player1 raises [$3.75 USD]
Player2 folds
Hero raises [$7.75 USD]
Player1 folds
Hero wins $5.00 USD
Hero wins $8.50 USD from main pot
H7
I felt I was totally being run over at this point - just folded preflop 8 times in a row just ran dead at the table I felt like I needed to take a stand at some point and did it with a hand like this, oops it just suck xD
Postflop I really don't know, the guy barrels with balanced frequency somewhat if I turn it into a bluffcatcher I pretty much fuck myself up and don't know how many to call off as the kicker's so weak. So basically I use the outs to barrel.
On the turn I pick up shitty heart draw I don't want ot cc or cf so bet seemed like the only option to me meh I dunno rly don't want to cf that aganst him when he call alot andwhen I cc I will want to strangle myself on pretty much any but 9 6 rivers.
River ship what else can I do + Show Spoiler +
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 17, 11:39:05 ET 2013
Table Valentine IV Real Money
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 2: Player2 $58.15 USD - VPIP: 42, PFR: 36, 3B: 21, AF: 2.9, Hands: 146
Seat 6: Hero $50.00 USD - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 1289471
Player2 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Hero bets [$30.02 USD]
Player2 calls [$30.02 USD]
Hero shows
Player2 shows
Player2 wins $99.50 USD from main pot
H8
Ye like I am completely hemorrhaging money don't knot what the fuck to do here. If I 4bet I have to fold to shove - he wasn't shoving like crazy or anything. If I do it too small to 4b fold he calls me and I'm fucked anyway.
So calling seemed like the best option by far, I am ahead of his range a ton and dominate random suited QKx shit he 3b with.
But then again - I don't know what to do when I call 3bets... when I peel one on the flop U just fold the turn and give him even more money, basically I hope he cbets and checks it down? or that I hit a jack?
fml I just give it to him...again... + Show Spoiler +
Hero checks
Player1 bets [$4.50 USD]
Hero folds
Player1 wins $4.50 USD
Player1 wins $7.64 USD from main pot
H9
Ye so like he open 25% UTG 6max or somthing gay like that so I 3b stack off of course, in this flop he'll have air so much also draws yada yada he's aggro so I check raise in his face because fuck him... then I remembered that he likes to check behind IP and doesn't autobet when checked to like most people...oops? then I guess I wanted to seam weak I rly rep just shitty hands when I check twice and he should bet 2x on a lot of runouts so yeah check again call twice on river think I have to shove as I should cb a fd most of the time here. + Show Spoiler +
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 17, 11:45:29 ET 2013
Table Gliese III Real Money
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $50.68 USD
Seat 2: Player2 $54.65 USD
Seat 3: Player3 $57.75 USD
Seat 4: Player4 $42.52 USD
Seat 5: Hero $50.00 USD
Player4 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Hero checks
Player1 bets [$13.00 USD]
Hero raises [$39.50 USD]
Player1 folds
Hero wins $26.50 USD
Hero wins $45.12 USD from main pot
H10
Okay so like I hate my sizing on the flop here - it's consistent with my range but all draws fucken beat me. I rly want to reraise huge here to seem liek I have a huge cock and I'm super commited like with a set because any made hand is just a flip against me + Show Spoiler +
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 17, 11:55:04 ET 2013
Table Valentine IV Real Money
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $22.59 USD - VPIP: 25, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 8
Seat 2: Player2 $149.06 USD - VPIP: 42, PFR: 36, 3B: 21, AF: 2.9, Hands: 146
Seat 3: Player3 $50.00 USD - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 10, AF: 2.4, Hands: 291
Seat 5: Player5 $69.63 USD - VPIP: 14, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: 2.7, Hands: 191
Seat 6: Hero $50.75 USD - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 1289471
Player1 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Player2 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Player2 shows
Hero shows
Player2 wins $49.63 USD from main pot
Player2 wins $49.62 USD from main pot
H11
Ye so like fuck that dude he 3b me foken all the time, Ima stack of 88. But wait the bitch calls me? fml of course. This is like the shittiest flop ever I have no equity mang but fuck him it's hits me A TON as well he should fold stuff.
Turn I just bet fold repping the nuts as he floated me like every time in any situation that kant. + Show Spoiler +
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 17, 12:02:57 ET 2013
Table Makhaon IV Real Money
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $104.17 USD - VPIP: 42, PFR: 36, 3B: 21, AF: 2.9, Hands: 146
Seat 2: Player2 $71.55 USD - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 2.6, Hands: 461
Seat 3: Player3 $54.84 USD - VPIP: 22, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 1.6, Hands: 529
Seat 5: Player5 $55.20 USD - VPIP: 27, PFR: 27, 3B: 33, AF: Infinity, Hands: 11
Seat 6: Hero $54.21 USD - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 1289471
Player2 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Player3 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Hero bets [$12.00 USD]
Player1 folds
Hero wins $12.00 USD
Hero wins $37.01 USD from main pot
Alright I take this as paid tuition:
- Don't play HU at the highest stake you play when tilted and hangover
- Against good players I REALLY have to consider my own range and make sure I play based on equity, not raise with random shit just because I'm getting ran over.
- have to learn how to play when I call 3bets in and out of position.
- He showed me the importance of playing wide PF but then balancing postflop - float a lot IP, don't autocbet oop (He c/r against other people as PFR too), don't autobet vs missed cbets and generally use position a lot more. he c/r more than normal players and barreled more - basically when he'd be aggro postflop he'd make sure it's for more than one street if possible
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