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Rent by hiems, January 24


How much do you guys pay in rent? Curious what most pay in terms of fixed amount, % net worth, and % Income. How much value do you guys place in a nice/flashy/baller house, apartment, and neighborhood?

I am looking for apartments right now and I am not sure if I should do it like LemOn or Joeingram1. Someplace in between for sure but curious what your strategies are. Obviously it's a bit different for homeowners...you can still post your reasoning as it is still similar unless you have it primarily for investment/rental income purposes.



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Daily Fantasy Sports by Gadget, January 23


Is there any interest in daily fantasy sports here? I deposited $200 3 months ago and currently have ~$4400 playing mainly NBA, with some NFL and College Football as well. My edge has to be atleast 20%, if not more, I haven't actually sat down and calculated my stats yet though. If there is a decent amount of interest I will start posting a few times a week with some of my NBA plays, and the reasoning behind it.

Also, started playing live poker again now that I have a good job and can afford it. My local place has this WSOP qualifier thing that runs for 20 weeks, seems like pretty good value. Plus it's always been one of my goals to play in the main event.... I would be interested in some live staking for some larger events(~$200-$500), but I have never done that before and don't know all the specifics. I haven't posted since black friday, but I had a ~25% ROI with 20k in profit in tournaments. I can post the stats if there is any interest in staking. Let me know guys!


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live poker by K40Cheddar, January 22


Good day liquidpoker,

This week I've been on a trip to Vegas and have been enjoying myself thoroughly so far. I planned the trip not only to get away from the stress of everyday life but to see what it would be like to grind a ton of poker for a week with no restrictions on time or place. While I have enjoyed playing at many of the venues down here, I haven't been super successful. I regularly play 1/2 around the Chicago area and have had no problems there, though I feel people are slightly better down here in Vegas. The fact that you get so few hands per hour really eats at me. I feel like I'm getting a pretty small sample size as to how i'm doing and when I think about my sessions I find it difficult to pinpoint spots to improve. I don't know if it's just running bad or I just suck or maybe a little of both. I'm not going to go on about specifics with bad beats either because nobody gives a shit and understands its part of the game. I find it extremely tilting though when you play great for 5-6 hours and lose a massive pot later due to some random bullshit that is poker.

Anyone that plays live professionally is nuts in my opinion. Out of curiosity to any live pros out there, what are some things you do to keep yourself together mentally? Any activities or things you engage in that keep you motivated and inspired to grind? I find it difficult to pull out motivation.

Do you regularly log your sessions and review each one critically? How do you know when to stop while ahead or keep going? Do you set stop limits/earning limits on your sessions?

I am only asking this things out of interest from people who choose to do this as a profession. From my simple experience, it seems a lot more stressful and difficult than I imagined and I can only believe the difficulty probably escalates when you play stakes like 5/10 or 10/20.

Let me know if you guys have any thoughts.

Thanks!


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PS Res Duration by Spitfiree, January 22


I just got back to PS again, however they re doing a maintenance or reset atm. How long does that usually last before the tables start running again?


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PS Res Duration by Spitfiree, January 22


I just got back to PS again, however they re doing a maintenance or reset atm. How long does that usually last before the tables start running again?


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I'm an idiot by aCa_, January 22


So today I'm playing live 1/2, and to summarize I'm in a pot vs villan when he leads out for something like 12 in something like 120+ pot when I only had like 25 behind on the river where I binked the nuts. So obviously I go all in, but when I pushed my stack in the middle I kind of dragged my smaller stack behind my bigger stack so even though I pushed with one motion one could argue that it was kind of a string bet and I instantly regretted being lazy with that.

Anyways villan argued that it was a string bet since both stacks didn't cross the betting line at same time, but the dealer said that it was ok since she said it was one motion, but the guy still argued and started to ask for floor. So the dealer asked me if it was a big deal, and since I didn't want the hassle of getting a floor over and since I thought it was my fault for being lazy I just said it was fine and took my bet back from a shove to a call.

Then for some reason, in my head I thought he had folded before showing his hand, and was only showing what he folded and I threw my hand into the muck since before I realized that I just threw away the winning hand. That moment when you realize you just went full retard -_-. Anyways I just looked at the table at utter disbelief at what I just did, and didn't even bother trying to get my cards back because I knew once it hit the muck it was dead anyways. When the guy asked me what I had, I told him I had the nuts and probably from the way I reacted he believed me because he gave me $10 , after instantly leaving after the hand. Not really sure if he planned to hit n run, or if he felt bad and didn't want to play anymore but I didn't even care because it was my fault.

Anyways to cheer myself up I went to the food court downstairs to get myself a smoothie and while in line some random black dude taps me on the back walking by and says "it will be alright" so I must have looked heartbroken lol. I guess a lot of live players have done this before since the players next to me all said that they have done it and just said forget about it any keep playing, but it being my first time made me so angry and frustrated with myself I found it impossible to do so and I just got up and left from being so tilted. ughh


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Just saying... (Poll) by JosephCalgary, January 21


There should be places all across the world where you can go when you want to die. You go to these places, you self administer Nembutal, Pentobarbital http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nembutal. Fall asleep, die in your sleep. Then have your organs harvested and get cremated. The organs pay for the process. More people who want to live, live, more who want to die, die. World is a place of less suffering.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/userpoll/draw.php?poll_id=1376
Poll: Should these places exist?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



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From the roof tops by 2primenumbers, January 21


-- ty for reading


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played NL1K by LemOn[5thF], January 21


so today i'm naturally stalking Zazano as usual, open all his 16 tables.
Then somehow accidentally tableninja2 sits me in on one of the fucking tables at NL1k out of nowhere when im not even playing poker just talking on skype and I fucking missclick squeeze tableninja sizing.

Before I realize what's happening at that this isnt nl16 I autoclick raise cause its a sick spot
+ Show Spoiler +


Im like wtf is this shit man did I just squeeze 9BIs? And why would I squeeze in the first place xD
Then I decide, what the fuck paid the blinds (AKA my regular one buy in) lets play the orbit

In the end I ended up getting some money back from none other than the person that caused this:
+ Show Spoiler +


Needless to say, when I'm on my deathbed I can be happy with my life as for a brief moment I flew with the eagles, I faced Gods. I hit and run run Zazano for five big blinds


What would I do if I get dealt QQ in late position and face a 3b and a decision for half my bankroll, we will never know.



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Giving away poker strategy in 2014 by Joeingram1, January 20


I went on a mini twitter rant yesterday about doing strategy videos on PLO and I wanted to write more about the idea of giving away poker strategy in 2014. People have been putting out strategy/training videos for years now, this isn't new. People putting out more and more PLO specific strategy videos is more of a new idea and something I was hoping would take as long as possible to actually start to take place. With RIO training site, I could see how it would make sense for the end game bosses like Phil and Odds to put out training videos while actually dicussing good, in depth strategy. The more action they get and the more people that could make it to playing 25/50+, the better for their overall bottom line, which is very debatable if that is actually true/false. What made me write those tweets yesterday is when I saw a PLO 200zoom video being put out by a new video maker. I watched a bit of it and then I became very confused as to why this guy would decide its ever a good idea to make a 1/2 zoom video that is his main game with the intention of making people better at playing zoom. I can't imagine this guy is getting paid anything close to the point where it makes any sense at all. I don't think many of the players who were around to watch as the NL games get progressively tougher years ago are the ones making PLO stuff now because they realize how fucking dumb it is. Maybe the reason is similar to what Marshall said in a post on here as to why he is making videos now. They are looking for respect from there peers and want to help others get better at the game. I think all video makers should watch videos from one of the guys that play on the Barcode account on Pokerstars (Hac Dang). The team of people that play on the account handled video making pretty perfectly. They attached there name on the site when it first launched to help there friend out and get more people to the site while putting out a couple vids each where they basically talked about nothing.

In isildroon last video he mentioned something about how more regulars are playing alot better now and the growth of other players game was going much quicker. It sounded like he was not sure as to why this might be happening but you never can be sure with accents. When one of the better regs in the games is putting out 2 videos a month playing a bunch of deep tables and going in depth into different things, what do you expect to happen to the games over a 6 month period??? It is seriously mind blowing that some of these guys on different sites are continuing to put content out there as they watch the games they play in get tougher and tougher directly because of them. I know as PLO continues to grow/become more popular and the regs are getting more and more experience the games difficulty will continue to increase faster but all of this makes that happen much much much faster.

I can see a bit more merit for some of the small stakes guys to put out videos but not too much more. The amount of money they might be making from doing these videos might actually be a big percentage of their overall bottom line and with the player pool being so large at the stakes they normall play, they don't have to worry as much about directly impacting the games they play in on a daily basis. Also the people that tend to watch these videos are usually of lower skill level so they will end up misapplying different concepts to their own game often enough. If I was a 100 or 200plo regular and poker wasn't my full time thing or in my near future, I would be tempted to put out videos on a regular basis as well if I could.

I think the obvious live poker equivalent for this is when people don't shut the fuck up about talking strategy/over hands at the table while the bad players are sitting there confused and the meh regs who breakeven/lose a bit might get encouraged to actually work harder at there game because of something you said and end up turning into winning regs. I read something that Alec Torelli wrote about it that I really agreed with and is basically saying the similar things I've been saying in this post http://www.alectorelli.com/blog/sharing-information-at-the-table/


As I wrote a bit about in a few previous blog posts, I've been working on writing up different things for my website. The problem I've run into is that I've always been pretty anti-giving away strategy (read my 12k posts on 2p2 to confirm this) and many of the things I intend to write about are actually strategical type of things. None of it is really game specific strategy but as I was writing up something about how to set better poker goals for yourself and actually make a plan to achieve them I started thinking why the fuck I want to try to help people that make there money from playing poker (like I do) set better goals and work more efficient. I do have the desire to help people out but I just can't convince myself it is very smart to put out content that is going to help my direct competition or future direct competition be more effective in what we both do for a living. As I mentioned before, there is the chance that things I might suggest is completely wrong/bad and/or people are going to misapply the ideas completely, but I don't think it outweighs the times it helps take a breakeven small stakes player to a winning midstakes player. Instead I was thinking about writing up strategy that pertains to life, love, and happiness but even with that I think I might end up having too much of a positive impact. I do think I am overestimating the impact but if it is > 0 that is probably too much.

I guess it comes down to what type of person you want to be and what kind of impact do you want to try to have on others around you. Can you live with and accept that you might be making a certain area of your own life harder while potentially bettering others in many different ways beyond that specific area of your own life that you might be making harder. Poker is such a unique world to be in that anytime you help the people you are closest with your potentially hurting yourself. There is a bunch of merit to the idea that writing about these ideas and getting feedback will potentially having a bigger positive impact on myself than could be measured but I'm not entirely sure I believe that yet. I think I will end up focusing more on entertaining content with some life strategy and less on trying to make others more successful poker players.


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Bravo vs. Royler 2 by PuertoRican, January 20


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| NO JUDGES | SIX MATCHES | 20 MINUTE ROUNDS | NO POINTS | ONLY THE BEST |

The official Metamoris 3 stream is 50% off until January 31st ($10 instead of $20).

Date: Saturday, March 29th, 2014
Metamoris 3 commentators: Kenny Florian and Jeff Glover.

Fight Card

Eddie Bravo vs. Royler Gracie
Rafael Mendez vs. Clark Gracie
Keenan Cornelius vs. Vinny Magalhaes
Dean Lister vs. Renato "Babalu" Sobral
Gui Mendes vs. Samir Chantre
Zak Maxwell vs. Sean Roberts


Official website: http://metamoris.com/live-stream


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WTB a TableNinja 1 key! by eaue, January 20


Got one now, thanks!


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I'm Back! by kantoiki, January 20


So after several years of quitting poker to take studying more seriously, travelling, and now working full time I'm back.

But just for fun.

Its nice to see some familiar faces around still from years ago, wonder what everyone is doing now in their lives?
Still playing poker full time, working or studying?

Anyway so I'm back, not instead of a job, not as a extra source of income but just for fun.



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Ecuador Trip Report by 2primenumbers, January 19


-- ty for reading


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Holy crap by TalentedTom, January 18


UPDATE!






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Javascript Poker Bot Competition/Library by Rinny, January 18





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Recovery random blog by LemOn[5thF], January 18


SUp people last week was rly bad spewed loads, got tired, really bad diarrhea played like 2.5hrs/average per day was throwing shit across the room didn't feel like playing.

thought I'd share mah recovery over past 2days: (lost bout the same in a 10 day period prior)
http://i.imgur.com/jITLEc3.png
- played through tilt, made shitloads of mistakes, spewed many stacks.
- logged off skype
- didnt watch any videos
- pushed volume by force even when I really didnt feel like it
- did lots of de-tilt stuff. I wanted to scream and throw stuff like I did thursday when I got sucked out on again but instead covered my face with a hoodie, bit it with my teeth closed eyes and took deep breaths to 10 and insterted logic
- consciously realized I was emotionally charged as fuck, and focused on not adding to that by any spots.
- I avoided regs that were aggressive that I spewed stacks for no reason to because they added to my emotional charge. Same when someone stacked me a few times I just left table when I felt like I'm getting negative emotions
- listened to jack canfield fucking awesome audio book and book the success principle. MOst important thing is that everything is my responsibility, I am accountable for everything I do in my life it goes like
Events+Your reaction=Outcome
And since there is exactly nothing you can do about events like getting sucked out on in poker, you need to focus 100% energy on your reaction to the events and that's what (in the long run) is the only thing that changes your outcome.


Finally got my body in balance after it was drained with that diarrhea thing - I was eating shitloads of pasta veg and chicken and multivits to load back on nutrients over the past 2 days and finally I feel like I have my energy back after 2weeks I feel pumped up for the gym once more.

GL people's at the weekend


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Share your losses for the year so far by LikeASet, January 17


Down about 1575$ playing nl 300 live so far for the year.

Fuck this fuck fack fark fux flux,

let me bask with other currently losing players > o <


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Sweaty palms by jvilla777, January 17





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PLO Vegas by KeyleK_uk, January 16


Hi LP! Hope all is well.

I have really concentrated on PLO for the last year or so and am feeling very rusty in holdem. I'm looking to play 2/5 PLO in vegas probs gonna start with 100bb sits until I get a good feel for whats going on. I am going to vegas with 5 friends 27th Jan - 11th Feb.

Does anyone have any suggestions of good places to play PLO in vegas, obviously fish and/or lower rake is really what I'm after (eV I guess) rather than a nice room etc

Thanks in advance for replies.

EDIT: Looks like we're going through venetian deepstack series, so I guess that will probs be the best place to play?


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