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20BI PLO Swing n 11k Hand, SNE Pace, learning PLO by Joeingram1, January 12
Whew, finally finished up a fun exciting 11k Hand PLO50 session. I have been trying to learn the game of PLO lately and finally feel like I am seeing some improvement in my game. The whole PLO process has not been good to me so far but I feel like in the long run I will have learned alot and will pay off. I have played some in the past, a few tables only and had good results so naturally last month when I started playing I jumped into 5/10 6m PLO on Stars and ran well and was up +15k. Then came the running bad aspect of the game where I dumped it all back and was convinced I was good at the game but just running bad. Finally after losing about 40k playing 1/2-5/10 PLO I decided that a self-ban of limits for Omaha was in order and I setup a freeroll thru 2p2 that if I play higher then .50/1 PLO I would owe a bunch of people money. For some reason I cannot allow myself to play less then 24 tables when I do play (the whole vpp obsession thing I and many have). At first, not knowing really anything about the game, I was losing at a ridiculous rate but was also running pretty fucking terrible. I feel I am gradually progressing at the game though and am learning quite well. I really want to get SNE by July so I feel like learning to 24 table PLO profitably will be a huge, huge help to that overall goal and the money I may lose will be made up in the end. So I will be grinding the 25-50PLO games on Stars for January-February and working on improving my game. My self ban for 100-200PLO ends in March so then I should be able to take a shot at those games.
Here is my 11k hand PLO session I played this morning at 50PLO, I took a break down about 21BI and refocused, turned off my HUD and proceeded to crush. Actually ran at EV for one session finally, which has been rare in my experiences at the game so far.
As far as NL has been going this month, I have been doing fairly well. I am only allowed to play up to NL200 for awhile since I am not really rolled to play higher and am trying to focus on only playing 6max games, rather then mixing in full ring as well. Here is my graph so far for the month, missing about 10k hands, +1k profit from my other computer.
This is a mix of PLO and NL, all the money I am down is from PLO lol
its kinda funny that I made it onto the leaderboard solely playing $6.5 18 mans. just goes to show that the $16 regs are noobs kidding
so far this month i've played 1,083 SNGs in 42.9 hours with a 17.7%ROI....which gives me a solid $28.99/hour at the $6.5 18 mans. with supernova rakeback it bumps it up to $32/hour
I think i've got a pretty good grasp of 25nl metagame despite the small sample size of ~12k hands so i've started 6-8 tabling. Still kind of on track for my prop bet - i'm on 1.1k and i'm going to finish grinding a $100 bonus tomorrow. So 800 bux in 20 days, definitely doable at the rate i'm hitting my 2 outters. Probably going to dabble in 50nl when i hit 2k.
Anyways, i've decided to broaden my understanding of poker outside of NLH cash games and play some donkaments for shits and giggles. Atm i belong to the "wait until you have AA" school of Helmuth. I think this is a less than optimum approach. Can anyone recommend a website? or a book that gives me the fundamental mindset for MTTs? Goddamn cardrunners only have 6 max videos.
Just recently moved to 50nl on FTP and finding decent tables during the times I can play seems pretty hard - full of regs and the fishier tables have 3/4 people on wait lists?? I am UK based and play 4 am ET for a couple of hours and maybe 5pm ET - anyone play stars and have better options? Or has anyone played both and found they're basically the same? I know the times are crap but the only real options I have.....bring back Xmas holidays
So I keep on steadily winning/running well at NL2. Gonna keep my promise at winning 100 buyins before I move up to prove to myself i have some discipline left in me after busting multiple rolls by getting a little money then playing nl50/100 hu with like a 400 roll. I started with $22.99 about a week ago and am currently sitting with $157.17 which is a $134 dollar profit but more importantly 67 buyins up. Before my last session I calculated my hourly to be exactly at minimum wage in the USA. Made me want to quit my crappy summer job haha but that'll never happen. Anyways i kind of wish I had poker tracker at my disposal but no biggy there. I've been keeping a graph on my own on excel and its nice to see the steady winrate i've achieved. That is all for tonight, played my longest session to date... 18-20 tabling NL2 (6 max) for 3000 hands.
So today i got my very best mtt score ever along with my first mtt win. Previously i had a second place for about 4.6k if i remember correctly.
I was grinding fpps for the 1k travel dollars (64k fpp) in order to go see my brother who lives in hawaii... yeah he actually works there, but i wont need to anymore thx to result :D
So i am left with a nice roll, no depts (which were huuuge), and 36k FPP. Ill use my fpps to buy the 650$ bonus on jan 31st i believe thats gonna cost 40k.
Now im in the process of acquiring a passport to go ball it out in hawaii for a week or 2 during march. Life is good, I should be able to get a sick gf very soon too.
Btw hypers are so addicting but man you can bust a 1k roll in an hour playing those pesky 87.72$ ones even tho top 3/6 get at least moneyback
This year I want to make discipline my main objective... Last year my graph was pretty rofl
As health care reform nears the finish line, there is much wailing and rending of garments among conservatives. And I’m not just talking about the tea partiers. Even calmer conservatives have been issuing dire warnings that Obamacare will turn America into a European-style social democracy. And everyone knows that Europe has lost all its economic dynamism.
Strange to say, however, what everyone knows isn’t true. Europe has its economic troubles; who doesn’t? But the story you hear all the time — of a stagnant economy in which high taxes and generous social benefits have undermined incentives, stalling growth and innovation — bears little resemblance to the surprisingly positive facts. The real lesson from Europe is actually the opposite of what conservatives claim: Europe is an economic success, and that success shows that social democracy works.
Actually, Europe’s economic success should be obvious even without statistics. For those Americans who have visited Paris: did it look poor and backward? What about Frankfurt or London? You should always bear in mind that when the question is which to believe — official economic statistics or your own lying eyes — the eyes have it.
In any case, the statistics confirm what the eyes see.
It’s true that the U.S. economy has grown faster than that of Europe for the past generation. Since 1980 — when our politics took a sharp turn to the right, while Europe’s didn’t — America’s real G.D.P. has grown, on average, 3 percent per year. Meanwhile, the E.U. 15 — the bloc of 15 countries that were members of the European Union before it was enlarged to include a number of former Communist nations — has grown only 2.2 percent a year. America rules!
Or maybe not. All this really says is that we’ve had faster population growth. Since 1980, per capita real G.D.P. — which is what matters for living standards — has risen at about the same rate in America and in the E.U. 15: 1.95 percent a year here; 1.83 percent there.
What about technology? In the late 1990s you could argue that the revolution in information technology was passing Europe by. But Europe has since caught up in many ways. Broadband, in particular, is just about as widespread in Europe as it is in the United States, and it’s much faster and cheaper.
And what about jobs? Here America arguably does better: European unemployment rates are usually substantially higher than the rate here, and the employed fraction of the population lower. But if your vision is of millions of prime-working-age adults sitting idle, living on the dole, think again. In 2008, 80 percent of adults aged 25 to 54 in the E.U. 15 were employed (and 83 percent in France). That’s about the same as in the United States. Europeans are less likely than we are to work when young or old, but is that entirely a bad thing?
And Europeans are quite productive, too: they work fewer hours, but output per hour in France and Germany is close to U.S. levels.
The point isn’t that Europe is utopia. Like the United States, it’s having trouble grappling with the current financial crisis. Like the United States, Europe’s big nations face serious long-run fiscal issues — and like some individual U.S. states, some European countries are teetering on the edge of fiscal crisis. (Sacramento is now the Athens of America — in a bad way.) But taking the longer view, the European economy works; it grows; it’s as dynamic, all in all, as our own.
So why do we get such a different picture from many pundits? Because according to the prevailing economic dogma in this country — and I’m talking here about many Democrats as well as essentially all Republicans — European-style social democracy should be an utter disaster. And people tend to see what they want to see.
After all, while reports of Europe’s economic demise are greatly exaggerated, reports of its high taxes and generous benefits aren’t. Taxes in major European nations range from 36 to 44 percent of G.D.P., compared with 28 in the United States. Universal health care is, well, universal. Social expenditure is vastly higher than it is here.
So if there were anything to the economic assumptions that dominate U.S. public discussion — above all, the belief that even modestly higher taxes on the rich and benefits for the less well off would drastically undermine incentives to work, invest and innovate — Europe would be the stagnant, decaying economy of legend. But it isn’t.
Europe is often held up as a cautionary tale, a demonstration that if you try to make the economy less brutal, to take better care of your fellow citizens when they’re down on their luck, you end up killing economic progress. But what European experience actually demonstrates is the opposite: social justice and progress can go hand in hand.
MadJukes: checks
jowidell: bets $0.25
MadJukes: raises $0.55 to $0.80
jowidell: raises $2.40 to $3.20
MadJukes: raises $1.67 to $4.87 and is all-in
jowidell: calls $1.67
Showdown MadJukes: shows (a straight, Three to Seven)
jowidell: shows (a straight, Four to Eight)
jowidell collected $9.54 from pot
Summary Total pot $10.04 | Rake $0.50
Board
Seat 1: MadJukes (small blind) showed and lost with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 2: jowidell (big blind) showed and won ($9.54) with a straight, Four to Eight
Seat 3: bgdg34 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: toonez folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: BERSERKER241 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: meangreen7 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
MadJukes: bets $0.85
MamSBLUFF: raises $1.95 to $2.80
hawk_bg: folds
MadJukes: raises $2.78 to $5.58 and is all-in
MamSBLUFF: calls $1.95 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.83) returned to MadJukes
River (Pot : $10.35)
Showdown MadJukes: shows (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
MamSBLUFF: shows (three of a kind, Kings)
MamSBLUFF collected $9.85 from pot
Summary Total pot $10.35 | Rake $0.50
Board
Seat 1: MadJukes (small blind) showed and lost with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 2: mcpetster (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: MamSBLUFF showed and won ($9.85) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 5: drew 071082 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: hawk_bg (button) folded on the Turn
MadJukes: bets $1.30
Litvinoff: raises $1.80 to $3.10
MadJukes: raises $1.80 to $4.90
Litvinoff: calls $0.13 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1.67) returned to MadJukes
River (Pot : $7.83)
Showdown MadJukes: shows (two pair, Aces and Tens)
Litvinoff: shows (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Litvinoff collected $7.48 from pot
Summary Total pot $7.83 | Rake $0.35
Board
Seat 1: Litvinoff showed and won ($7.48) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 2: xMIKE HAWKx folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: Roman291 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: clc1218 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: oOMUTEOo (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: MadJukes showed and lost with two pair, Aces and Tens
MadJukes: bets $1.10
chamo2a: raises $1.45 to $2.55 and is all-in
Jake Deer has returned
MadJukes: calls $1.45
River (Pot : $6.37)
Showdown MadJukes: shows (a pair of Aces)
chamo2a: shows (a flush, Ace high)
chamo2a collected $6.07 from pot
Summary Total pot $6.37 | Rake $0.30
Board
Seat 1: MadJukes showed and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: chamo2a showed and won ($6.07) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: steven126 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: sandbaggin4U (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: hawk_bg (big blind) folded before Flop
HighlanderAs: bets $0.64 and is all-in
MadJukes: calls $0.64
River (Pot : $4.08)
Showdown HighlanderAs: shows (a flush, King high)
MadJukes: shows (three of a kind, Kings)
HighlanderAs collected $3.93 from pot
Summary Total pot $4.08 | Rake $0.15
Board
Seat 1: MadJukes (button) showed and lost with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 2: adicto140 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: HighlanderAs (big blind) showed and won ($3.93) with a flush, King high
Seat 4: passarote folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: TerrorVirus2 folded on the Flop
...
Oh I just played this one a minute ago. My favorite.
Submitted by : MadJukes
PokerStars Game #38038250091: Holdem No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/01/12 4:29:03 CT [2010/01/12 5:29:03 ET]
Table Hagihara 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: kaizen5678 ($5.50 in chips)
Seat 2: DancingMonke ($7.59 in chips)
Seat 3: MadJukes ($5.26 in chips)
Seat 4: TREE8758 ($19.31 in chips)
Seat 5: ecatkinsV ($15.05 in chips)
Seat 6: saorete333 ($4.74 in chips)
DancingMonke: posts small blind $0.02
MadJukes: posts big blind $0.05
MadJukes: bets $1.30
TREE8758: raises $17.41 to $18.71 and is all-in
MadJukes: calls $3.36 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($14.05) returned to TREE8758
Showdown TREE8758: shows (four of a kind, Sevens)
MadJukes: shows (a full house, Eights full of Sevens)
TREE8758 collected $10.19 from pot
Summary Total pot $10.69 | Rake $0.50
Board
Seat 1: kaizen5678 (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: DancingMonke (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: MadJukes (big blind) showed and lost with a full house, Eights full of Sevens
Seat 4: TREE8758 showed and won ($10.19) with four of a kind, Sevens
Seat 5: ecatkinsV folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: saorete333 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
2009 bilancing, 2010 plans and random thoughtsby Joe, January 11
First off, I decided to stop posting monthly results in this blog and I dont intend to start with it again. I actually thought I will just stop blogging at all here, but I got several requests to write a new blog entry, so here it is, although a bit different than what I used to post. It mostly wont contain specific results.
2009 bilancing
I set myself some goals for 2009, so lets go over them and review how I did.
I wanted to become a high stakes online no-limit regular (was a 5/10 reg in the beginning of 2009) playing everything from 5/10 up to 25/50. I think I accomplished this goal enough. I consider 10/20 NL to be my base stakes now and I play 25/50 NL when the games are good.
Then I of course set myself some monetary goals. I do not want to say specific numbers, but my 'ideal' goal was quite daring compared to what I made in 2008 and even my 'minimal satisfactory' goal was to make more than in 2008, which was a successfull year for me as well.
Well, I am happy to say that I exceeded my 'ideal' goal by quite something, so I accomplished this part too.
But, to go into a bit more details, I can divide my poker income into 3 main categories: online poker, live poker and swaps/deals.
At online poker I actually won a bit less than what I hoped to win in the beginning of the year. Also, what surprised me in the end was the fact, that rakeback + bonus deals made up for almost 25% of my total online poker income.
At live poker though I won way more than what I expected. I went deep in 4 big live tournaments (23th/2650 in a WSOP $1,500 NLHE event, 5th/168 in 5,000€ WPT Barcelona, 3rd/450 in 1,500€ Unibet Open Prague and 13th/750 in 5,000GBP EPT London) and cashed in couple more. I also played quite some high stakes cash games live, mostly NL $30/$60 (approximately) in my country and I won a decent amount in those games.
At swaps/deals I was actually a bit down most of the year, but in December my friend won the EPT Prague and I had a small share swapped with him, which was still quite a decent amount of money from the first place prize.
Another goal was to put in enough playtime, which I think I accomplished so so, I definately could have played more, but I still played enough to consider that ok. I think I played little over 300,000 hands online. No idea about live.
Then I wanted to connect poker and travelling as best as I could. I think I definately travelled quite some, but I want to add a little bit more this year.
Yet another goal was to find a good balanced poker lifestyle. I have to say I am not really satisfied, I definately have a lot of space for improvement in this area.
2010 goals and ideas
I will start off with monetary goals. I would be very very satisfied if I managed to make the same (or more than) I made in 2009, but tbh I dont expect it to be very likely, I am giving it maybe like 30% chance tops. Other than that I didnt set any exact amount of money which I want to make, the more the better I guess
The plans for this year are basically to try and push my poker skills as far as I can, to try and find a balanced, funny and at least somewhat fullfilling lifestyle while poker is my main focus and to travel as much as I can.
I think I will do decently enough in first and third parts, but I am not sure about the second part, that one is difficult. The rate of success in that area will influence it the most (alongside other factors like income of course) how much longer I will be pursuing poker as my main focus, it may be 5 more years but it may be just 1-2 years I cant really say now.
I think I already wrote enough, hope it will satisfy those who asked me for a blogpost, I posted it mostly because of these requests.
So much notes on this episode, I'll have to cut it in 2, adding the the second part tomorrow night.
Quitting
"Quitting is the one poker topic that touches our regular lives the most directly and most often."
"It is the demarcation between poker and non-poker."
Toughing it out
- The difference between normal manual labour and poker is that, when you do feel out of your A game, and don't feel up for it, you can still do the work, and get a paycheck at a normal job. In poker, you will lose money.
- Everytime you feel out of your game or damaged, you shouldn't necessarily quit. If you're a professional
"This whole quitting topic is deeply complex because each person is different, and each person is changing all the time."
(Just tossing out wide area of nets)
- Each individual needs to learn to know/feel themself good when they aren't on their A game, and what might bring them close to it, or how to refocus.
From Tommy's book
I have always had very strict policies when it comes to quitting, even when I first started playing poker. Back then I had two main quitting rules that I never broke. I would always quit if I was out of money and nobody would lend me any, and I would always quit if everybody else did.
Taking Breaks
*Very important topic*
- Possible to recharge your engine, back to your A game if it's started to detoriate.
- Usually people take breaks because they want to pee, disturbances, get food so forth
- Really smart to take breaks just to take a break, because you been sitting for too long, you're starting to become flusterd, harder to focus, so forth.
"Walking away is easy. The hard part is standing up."
If you really wanna take on quitting as a skillset, as a new challenge, body of work that you're gonna undertake. The way to do that is thinking of taking a break, as quitting practice, because everytime you're taking a break, you're going away from the table.
(Only practicing the act of walking away in the middle of the table.)
What to do on breaks
*Start thinking of your beaks in a completly different way, you're not taking a break to do anything, you do it to remove yourself from teh game, physically, and mentally, and this takes effort.*
- Doing something that takes your mind off the game
- Just concentrate on the act your doing, on yourself, concentrate on the present tense and what's going on, do the breathing.
- If you play online, It's never smart to play more than 1hour to 1hour30min, take a break, do something, do sit ups, push ups, something.
- The reason why after we've sat down, feel fresh and sharp, playing our A game, then after 1 hour, 2 hours, we just feel, deteriorated, exhausted, flusterd is because we've accumulated mental stuff.
(Like an accumilation of weights, baggage.)
- Take breaks when you feel good. (We have a tendency to take breaks when we feel like shit.) Do it before desperate time.
EVERYTIME YOU TAKE A BREAK, YOU ARE QUITTING
- Have to practice quitting when it's really difficult.
Use the "object of the game" concept to practice quitting.
Quitting "lopping off the C game"
"Lopping off the C-game has such enormous long term effects."
- On your well being, happiness, bankroll, friends, family, so forth.
- We tend not to think in long term, but saving the cash you "waste" end of long session is huge. Lopping off the C game which starts to creep in
"I see quitting as a tool to use toward this higher objective of loppinf off the C game."
"If you want to lop of C-game, you need to trim back the end of your worst sessions."
I was about to go play poker at a local casino. I hadn't slept all that well but I had showered and walked and I had convinced myself that I was good to go. I was at the door, saying goodbye to my wife, when this big yawn opened up on my face.
Wife: "Are you sure you want to go play right now?"
And I'm like, "Yes."
And she said, "Well, of course you know if you are ready or not. I'm just saying, it's never wrong to not play."
It's never wrong to not play.
It's never wrong to not play.
I let those words melt over me for a second. Then I walked to my desk and wrote them down, and stayed home.
I am the master of my fateby DustySwedeDude, January 11
Going to start by posting a poker hand. It's obviously horridly played pf, but except for "fold pf" I'm not sure if I could do anything else, or rather, I have no idea wtf I'm supposed to do after my first reraise. Comments?
Showdown rubixq shows,
Hero shows,
pelleri doesn't show,
MrDonovan doesn't show,
Hero wins $2176.10 USD from main pot
rubixq wins $1072.25 USD from main pot
Hero wins $1702.95 USD from main pot
Hero wins $777.00 USD from main pot
... When you win this one and still finds out that you're under equity the last couple of thousand hands you feel weird .
That is, however, not a fair representation of how I've been running the last few days, lol.
So I was to my first BJJ class today. It was really fun and I'll try to go as much as possible. The instructor talked a bit about how you should only compete against yourself, how talent just made things go faster but you can succeed without it and how pride just hurt you. Now a few years ago I would've regarded that as stupid, but he has a point. Yea sure talented people have it easier, so fucking what?
I'm fairly smart but other then that I don't have much in the way of talents. I'm not in good shape and never where, I never did very good in sports and I can't learn languages for shit. I've got some anti-social streaks and my skills in dancing is comparable to a wolf's table manners. Non existing. My skin is pale and except for my natural hair colour there's not much in the way of attractive facial features. I can't grow a decent beard to save my life. Although noting I'm ashamed of either my penis is not big enough to impress anything except possibly fairly inexperienced girls and Asians. Overall I feel that if I'll ever be something of importance or greatness it'll mostly be due to my own hard work. Or possibly just dumb luck. I hadn't thought of it like that before, but it kinda feels good.
Also, since rednalluk doesn't seem to blog I feel that I can post this youtube link he msged me a couple of days ago:
I'm leaving to Asia on Friday and need to DL as much cool new music as possible before then. Please help by posting youtube videos of awesome songs. Here are a few songs I've been listening to lately and wanna have more similar to it:
Classic:
Tight:
Thanks to Milkman:
BEP always good:
I have no idea how to classify this music. I always call it techno but I know that real techno heads often disagree. Maybe it's house. I dunno. But whatever type of music it is, I dig and am trying to find more like it. Suggestions please!
As i was grinding 8 tables on 50NL and 100NL the other day I realized something, i was bored of Holdem. This isnt the bored of hold em you hear from big winners who say they have solved the game and are no longer challenged. I am no where close to conquering this game, im just not interested in it anymore. I have no passion for it and no yearning for learning. I realized this was causing me to play bad, i actually developed some serious FPS from being bored and started spewing money. So, what am i gonna do? Well, all my New years goals are out the window. 2 days ago I cashed out my full tilt roll which stood at 2800 after some runbad recently. I have rakeback coming this week which ill use to finish off my year end bonus, I also bought a ton of products from the FTP store like clothes and random shit.
I've decided to start a little project to fire up my passion for poker. Im starting with a new site, and a new(sort of) game. I deposited 500 on pokerstarts and plan to grind 25PLO and work my way up. I really enjoy PLO and it satisfy my needs as an action junkie. I have never really had an issue with tilt so variance shouldnt bother me. Im the kid who spazzes in the chat to give the appearance of tilt, but never changes my game. I look forward to this challenge and for the first time in a while im truly excited. I plan to grind up to at least 1500 before I move to 50PLO, but well see how the games go. Im actually a decent PLO player, i hand read suprisingly well and have a good understanding of what I want to do in the game. I have a snowboard trip coming up this wednesday thru friday and after that I will probably get started. The only thing I have to do is purchase the HEM for PLO. If anyone isnt using their extra version let me know u can save me some money. Besides PLO I will play some small buying MTT's randomly, which is part of the reason I moved to PS. Maybe ill even get lucky and ship one.