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Gnarly   United States. Apr 05 2011 21:56. Posts 1723
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Small sample, but I can't help but notice that $1.50 deficit. I'm running at 9/7, and am thinking that loosening up can help the red line.

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rockman255   Canada. Apr 05 2011 22:05. Posts 4471

red line has more to do with how you play your hands postflop, im pretty sure its really within the realm of possibility to play 8/6 and have + redline

and, hot tip, try to tie your emotional connection to the ev line, not the winnings line. (i guess that takes some bankroll) the ev line is much more consistent with what is happening on the tables (unless you get in the 2nd nuts vs nuts and such), whereas the "winnings" line jumps every which way all the fucking time

nice graph tho ^.^

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TheHuHu3   United States. Apr 05 2011 22:08. Posts 5544

9/7? Nigga, you only play QQ+?

TheHuHu4 coming soon :) 

superfashion   United States. Apr 05 2011 22:13. Posts 918

forget your redline for a while, just focus on winning and getting your bankroll together

shoving here as a bluff at 50NL is like explaning calcalus to a 6 month old cat wtf are you thinking - TalentedTom 

devon06atX   Canada. Apr 05 2011 22:24. Posts 5460

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whamm!   Albania. Apr 05 2011 22:31. Posts 11625

9/7 is fine, just wait for the nuts and leave other 9/7 infested tables and pick ones which have total retards and there should be a lot of them at nl2. try not learning advanced concepts for now and stick with hand charts and gtfo out of there as quickly as possible when ur rolled enough then start learning the game at around 10nl since theres a lot of training video players already by then. gl

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Zep   United States. Apr 05 2011 22:37. Posts 2292

that buck fifty gonna mean the difference between rent or not this next month. get er done.

NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 05 2011 23:00. Posts 1723

I get that I'm under with the higher EV, though I still don't really get how.

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egood   United States. Apr 05 2011 23:02. Posts 1883

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rockman255   Canada. Apr 05 2011 23:05. Posts 4471

? i dont know if you are actually asking this, so i apologise if im saying something really obvious here, but allin EV basically means like

ex, you go allin pre with kings, and villian has aces, for $2 each, pot is $4

you have 22% ev, which i guess is uhh, 0.88 ? so since you put in 2, your "allin ev" line goes down by 1.12. if you win, your winnings go up by 2, meaning you are over ev by 3.12. if you lose, your winnings go down by 2, meaning you are under ev by 0.88.

alternatively if you have aces you have 78% ev, so your allin ev line goes up by 1.12 (if you win, you're going to earn 2, and be 0.88 over ev, and if you lose, you go down by 2, and be 3.12 under ev)

anyway, the moral of the story is, your winnings/(or "under/over ev difference" ) line jumps all over the place, so try to just make the ev line go up, and not care as much about winnings

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K40Cheddar   United States. Apr 06 2011 00:23. Posts 2202

If you try to move your red line up you are gonna probably end up moving your blue line down. Just worry about winning money.

GG 

traxamillion   United States. Apr 06 2011 04:30. Posts 10468

mad about being .75 buyins below ev?

im -40 bi in ev my last 40k hands. could be worse


joLin   United States. Apr 06 2011 05:17. Posts 3818

your green line is going up at 18bb/100 and youre looking at the red line...

wtf who cares

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boreHM   Netherlands. Apr 06 2011 06:23. Posts 1595

thinking ahead fixes the red line imo, but it's not going down fast enough for you to be worrying about it
also, profitable poker is possible with negative redline
your EV line is very very close to your $$ line so that shouldn't be worth noticing


Oly   United Kingdom. Apr 06 2011 12:48. Posts 3585

10 tables is too many for NL2. I can't see the point of someone playing more than 6 as a total maximum. You are there to learn not to grind out hands. Nice graph though, looks like you are doing fine, gl...

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 06 2011 13:48. Posts 1723

I'm there to learn not to grind out hands? (Don't you want to use a comma in there?) I already know how to play poker. I'm here to grind up BR. Otherwise, ty.

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rockman255   Canada. Apr 06 2011 14:02. Posts 4471


  On April 06 2011 12:48 Gnarly wrote:
I'm there to learn not to grind out hands? (Don't you want to use a comma in there?) I already know how to play poker. I'm here to grind up BR. Otherwise, ty.



what is that even supposed to mean

if you're on your high horse and going to shoo away help, you're gonna have a really, really hard time.

we're all constantly learning. and those who aren't, are not keeping up with the games.

and, meeting the bankroll requirement to play a limit is about a million times easier than actually being good enough to maintain a consistent winrate there

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Zep   United States. Apr 06 2011 14:53. Posts 2292


  On April 06 2011 12:48 Gnarly wrote:
I'm there to learn not to grind out hands? (Don't you want to use a comma in there?) I already know how to play poker. I'm here to grind up BR. Otherwise, ty.


SOLVED IT!

NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 06 2011 14:57. Posts 1723

I was actually retorting to the fact that he assumed I'm there to learn. It's supposed to mean that I'm not a total fish. If I was trying to learn how to play, I'd be playing play money.

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joLin   United States. Apr 06 2011 19:37. Posts 3818


  On April 06 2011 12:48 Gnarly wrote:
I'm there to learn not to grind out hands? (Don't you want to use a comma in there?) I already know how to play poker. I'm here to grind up BR. Otherwise, ty.


wow be a grammar nazi douche towards a perfectly understandable post.

if you already know how to play poker then we are of no help to you, dunno why you post if youve got it figured out.

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 06 2011 19:51. Posts 1723

What's with everyone thinking I'm asking for help?

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joLin   United States. Apr 06 2011 20:45. Posts 3818

youre obviously a fish, and even though you didnt explicitly ask for help, some good posters on this site (oly, rockman and others) were nice enough to try and help you.

but if youre gonna assume you already know how to play poker and not be appreciative of free advice from good players i hope everyone keeps that in mind next time you post.

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 06 2011 22:54. Posts 1723

If I'm a fish, let's do a little HU. SnG style or so many hands, though I'll only play with five bucks. It'll be like stealing candy from a baby, right?

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Point88   United States. Apr 06 2011 23:27. Posts 61


  On April 06 2011 21:54 Gnarly wrote:
If I'm a fish, let's do a little HU. SnG style or so many hands, though I'll only play with five bucks. It'll be like stealing candy from a baby, right?



lol


K40Cheddar   United States. Apr 06 2011 23:48. Posts 2202

I'll take you NL 50 HU no joke

btw if you were good you wouldn't be at NL 2 lulz

GGLast edit: 06/04/2011 23:49

joLin   United States. Apr 06 2011 23:53. Posts 3818


  On April 06 2011 21:54 Gnarly wrote:
If I'm a fish, let's do a little HU. SnG style or so many hands, though I'll only play with five bucks. It'll be like stealing candy from a baby, right?


not interested in ego battles especially for $5

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 07 2011 01:27. Posts 1723

Then don't call me a fish.

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jeffv8x_-_16   Belgium. Apr 07 2011 03:09. Posts 2835


  On April 07 2011 00:27 Gnarly wrote:
Then don't call me a fish.



But you asking for $5 HU just proved his point that you are one.

how can u shove the river, he cant possibly call with worse -TalentedTom 

Chewits   United Kingdom. Apr 07 2011 04:13. Posts 2539

LOL

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Deadlift   . Apr 07 2011 09:59. Posts 98

You went to Cranbrook. That's a private school!


Gnarly   United States. Apr 07 2011 12:52. Posts 1723

Yeah, total fish. BUT DON'T PROVE IT! Please, whatever you do, don't prove it!

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whamm!   Albania. Apr 07 2011 19:03. Posts 11625

what happened here? are you samillionaire's cousin?


Mortensen8   Chad. Apr 07 2011 20:05. Posts 1845

lol at this thread nice way to shoot yourself in the foot nice ego bro

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