not a toTheEastSide thread - Page 2

On February 08 2010 21:52 whamm! wrote: war is sad, especially if its for the wrong reasons, which is basically what the US is with iraq ( afghanistan im not too against it) but listening to soldier whine about how sad war is is just pathetic ive seen/heard people get it worse for dumber reasons in diff places and circumstance, what a faggot. dont join the army

People are naive enough to join the army thinking they are actually defending their freedom or country, they dont sign in to terrorize innocent civilians

I'd bet a good majority join because they have no other option career or education wise.

It's still pretty sad that so much manpower is put into war. I can't even fathom where we would be today if all that time and effort was redirected into education and developing technology.

On February 08 2010 22:01 NMcNasty wrote: have to agree with what he said but there was nothing new

this, I thought this was pretty much general knowledge

all these wars are only happening beacuse without the military industrial complex US politicians think the world economy would collapse.

imo.

On February 09 2010 01:04 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote: I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan. Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there.

The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that.

On February 09 2010 04:17 Bigbobm wrote: I'd bet a good majority join because they have no other option career or education wise.

This.

My friend is a marine and said that he would pretty much go around to small towns and clear people out of their homes, interrogate them, and search their houses. Pretty ridiculous shit.

On February 09 2010 10:22 lukeperry wrote: Show nested quote + On February 09 2010 01:04 Baal wrote:   On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote: I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan. Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there. The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that.

america has no allies only commerce with other nations.
Lol at them saying their plans. They are all talk, that's why they are talking.....

If prostitution were legal, suicide bombing would be dramatically reduced.

all im saying is that if u want a stable career but dont wanna risk having to kill/torture or hurt somebody, dont join the army or marines
what do they expect they be doing? like push pencils allday? you're gonna have to follow some really sick orders without question at some point, the problem here is they're enticed to join the army since they can have a stable job, pension education etc, like its some sort of "job", its a lifestyle and people should be aware of that. and having no options because they are "poor" or ignorant is not an excuse, here in the philippines there are 85% extremely poor people , but you dont see them joining the army since they know for a fact what the job entails. i just hate snitches regardless

People are like bears at the edge of a cliff, controlled by fear. Am I the only one who thinks the guy who killed his commanding officers at fort worth Texas a hero and a moral man? He one man against a 1000 headed dragon and he lost but he knew he was going to lose. So he did what he did on principle, LOL. Everyone else just takes orders out of fear. If everyone was as brave and as moral there would be no armies because armies are created and kept in order by fear.

HOLY SHIT I checked and theres no wikipedia of him even though he has many many many fans.

coincidence? Also the Gov already called him a liar and said he's an evil communist.

On February 09 2010 10:22 lukeperry wrote: Show nested quote + On February 09 2010 01:04 Baal wrote:   On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote: I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan. Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there. The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that.

This is totally ignorant and wrong.

First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit.

Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea

Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan?




Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue.

On February 10 2010 10:05 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On February 09 2010 10:22 lukeperry wrote:   On February 09 2010 01:04 Baal wrote:   On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote: I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan. Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there. The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that. This is totally ignorant and wrong. First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit. Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan? Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue.

I never said I supported the war in Afghanistan, I said its not as easy to withdraw from there as you seem to think. If everyone left now the taliban would start attacking targets in Europe and America as a payback. ISAF must continue now, we're in too deep to just gtfo.
I thought it was common knowledge that the US has always supported different governments and countries to forward their own agenda? I'm not defending Americas actions, trust me. But withdrawing now is flat out retarded. I'm just glad you and your kind arent in charge anywhere important.
Like I said, the war in Afghanistan is not only about capturing bin Laden anymore. It's about taking down a terrorist network who will fuck people up if they're left alone tomorrow.

Dodging the Iraq issue? Your post was about the war in Afghanistan and I replied with my thoughts on it. I'm not dodging anything. Are you really this dumb or do you just like to annoy people?

On February 10 2010 13:40 lukeperry wrote: Show nested quote + On February 10 2010 10:05 Baal wrote:   On February 09 2010 10:22 lukeperry wrote:   On February 09 2010 01:04 Baal wrote:   On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote: I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan. Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there. The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that. This is totally ignorant and wrong. First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit. Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan? Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue. I never said I supported the war in Afghanistan, I said its not as easy to withdraw from there as you seem to think. If everyone left now the taliban would start attacking targets in Europe and America as a payback. ISAF must continue now, we're in too deep to just gtfo. I thought it was common knowledge that the US has always supported different governments and countries to forward their own agenda? I'm not defending Americas actions, trust me. But withdrawing now is flat out retarded. I'm just glad you and your kind arent in charge anywhere important. Like I said, the war in Afghanistan is not only about capturing bin Laden anymore. It's about taking down a terrorist network who will fuck people up if they're left alone tomorrow. Dodging the Iraq issue? Your post was about the war in Afghanistan and I replied with my thoughts on it. I'm not dodging anything. Are you really this dumb or do you just like to annoy people?

this probably a dumb question but given my image i think its ok to ask?
how do these terrorists networks over in afghanistan even know we exist?
like why attack us why not russia or haiti or mexico or cananda or brazil?
wtf...
if people are willing to die trying to kill us, people in USA
what the fuck did we do?
what would someone have to do to you for you to be willing to die to kill that someone?
u think they are not people because they are born in the middle east?
they are just like you, just on different territory.
when we kill their families its collateral damage/war
when they kill our families its terrorism
fack you

On February 10 2010 14:04 woodbrave1 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 10 2010 13:40 lukeperry wrote:   On February 10 2010 10:05 Baal wrote:   On February 09 2010 10:22 lukeperry wrote:   On February 09 2010 01:04 Baal wrote:   On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote: I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan. Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there. The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that. This is totally ignorant and wrong. First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit. Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan? Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue. I never said I supported the war in Afghanistan, I said its not as easy to withdraw from there as you seem to think. If everyone left now the taliban would start attacking targets in Europe and America as a payback. ISAF must continue now, we're in too deep to just gtfo. I thought it was common knowledge that the US has always supported different governments and countries to forward their own agenda? I'm not defending Americas actions, trust me. But withdrawing now is flat out retarded. I'm just glad you and your kind arent in charge anywhere important. Like I said, the war in Afghanistan is not only about capturing bin Laden anymore. It's about taking down a terrorist network who will fuck people up if they're left alone tomorrow. Dodging the Iraq issue? Your post was about the war in Afghanistan and I replied with my thoughts on it. I'm not dodging anything. Are you really this dumb or do you just like to annoy people? this probably a dumb question but given my image i think its ok to ask? how do these terrorists networks over in afghanistan even know we exist? like why attack us why not russia or haiti or mexico or cananda or brazil? wtf... if people are willing to die trying to kill us, people in USA what the fuck did we do? what would someone have to do to you for you to be willing to die to kill that someone? u think they are not people because they are born in the middle east? they are just like you, just on different territory. when we kill their families its collateral damage/war when they kill our families its terrorism fack you

lol trying to put words in my mouth are we? try again

EDIT
just realized I'm trying to argue with two of the most narrow minded people on LP, think I'll go touch myself instead of wasting time here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/digitalgrace/1404063662/

On February 10 2010 13:40 lukeperry wrote: Show nested quote + On February 10 2010 10:05 Baal wrote:   On February 09 2010 10:22 lukeperry wrote:   On February 09 2010 01:04 Baal wrote:   On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote: I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan. Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there. The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that. This is totally ignorant and wrong. First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit. Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan? Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue. I never said I supported the war in Afghanistan, I said its not as easy to withdraw from there as you seem to think. If everyone left now the taliban would start attacking targets in Europe and America as a payback. ISAF must continue now, we're in too deep to just gtfo. I thought it was common knowledge that the US has always supported different governments and countries to forward their own agenda? I'm not defending Americas actions, trust me. But withdrawing now is flat out retarded. I'm just glad you and your kind arent in charge anywhere important. Like I said, the war in Afghanistan is not only about capturing bin Laden anymore. It's about taking down a terrorist network who will fuck people up if they're left alone tomorrow. Dodging the Iraq issue? Your post was about the war in Afghanistan and I replied with my thoughts on it. I'm not dodging anything. Are you really this dumb or do you just like to annoy people?

Except that Al-Qaeda has wrong immensely after the american invasion to Afghanistan.

You are retarded because it seems you dont understand how and why these terrorist cells exists, and that is because of hatred and revenge, you invade a country and occupy it, people harmed by this and with a strong nationalistic or religious sense join forces to take revenge.

Do you seriously believe you can get into a country and occupy it for 10 years, and kill all the terrorists there? are you 10 years old or something? occupying a country for 10 years only creates millions of people who hate you, so basically every second you spend in iran and afghanistan, you are creating a new terrorist and fueling their cause, leave now, apologize for your crimes, adopt a proper foreign policy of no intervention and the hatred will eventually fade away.

On February 10 2010 14:04 woodbrave1 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 10 2010 13:40 lukeperry wrote:   On February 10 2010 10:05 Baal wrote:   On February 09 2010 10:22 lukeperry wrote:   On February 09 2010 01:04 Baal wrote:   On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote: I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan. Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there. The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that. This is totally ignorant and wrong. First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit. Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan? Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue. I never said I supported the war in Afghanistan, I said its not as easy to withdraw from there as you seem to think. If everyone left now the taliban would start attacking targets in Europe and America as a payback. ISAF must continue now, we're in too deep to just gtfo. I thought it was common knowledge that the US has always supported different governments and countries to forward their own agenda? I'm not defending Americas actions, trust me. But withdrawing now is flat out retarded. I'm just glad you and your kind arent in charge anywhere important. Like I said, the war in Afghanistan is not only about capturing bin Laden anymore. It's about taking down a terrorist network who will fuck people up if they're left alone tomorrow. Dodging the Iraq issue? Your post was about the war in Afghanistan and I replied with my thoughts on it. I'm not dodging anything. Are you really this dumb or do you just like to annoy people? this probably a dumb question but given my image i think its ok to ask? how do these terrorists networks over in afghanistan even know we exist? like why attack us why not russia or haiti or mexico or cananda or brazil? wtf... if people are willing to die trying to kill us, people in USA what the fuck did we do? what would someone have to do to you for you to be willing to die to kill that someone? u think they are not people because they are born in the middle east? they are just like you, just on different territory. when we kill their families its collateral damage/war when they kill our families its terrorism fack you

simple explanation on why towelheads hate your country: your country backed the jews, jews restole land off the towel heads, towel head leaders tell their people to hate americans.

why are Americans complaining about this? isn't this what your country wanted? To kill people so you can drive your suv 100m down the street to the market? Over 50% of people voted for bush, twice! I think this shows that a proper education is needed for americans, like this veteran, who seemed to be unaware of what war was before he joined it. Why did he go to war? you'd think that after WW2 people would know what war was. Well, at least germany knows what it is and stay the fuck out of it.

Also the last 20 seconds of that speech reminded me of hitler, heh.