Baalim   Mexico. Feb 08 2010 18:31. Posts 34312
But it could pretty easily be one.
Well i just thought it was a very interesting vid and maybe we can have a civil discussion about it where if you disagree with me ill call you a stupid retard.
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nolan   Ireland. Feb 08 2010 18:47. Posts 6205
sounds about right
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Zorglub   Denmark. Feb 08 2010 19:07. Posts 2870
Its not like racism is a western monopoly, the middle east is more racist than southern texas. Some of those racists want to kill me just because I dont believe what they do, those guys only understand violence and nothing else, so war is sometimes necessary. That beeing said, I am afraid he is right on the money with most of the rest he said.
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sniderstyle   United States. Feb 08 2010 19:12. Posts 2046
someone should jack ruby that benedict arnold
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woodbrave1   United States. Feb 08 2010 19:15. Posts 666
I have a question. I said I have a question for you.
"The enemy are CEOs who lay us off when it's profitable."
?????
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 08 2010 19:27. Posts 34312
On February 08 2010 18:07 Zorglub wrote:
Its not like racism is a western monopoly, the middle east is more racist than southern texas. Some of those racists want to kill me just because I dont believe what they do, those guys only understand violence and nothing else, so war is sometimes necessary. That beeing said, I am afraid he is right on the money with most of the rest he said.
You mixed so many truths with so many lies.
Yes, they are equally as racist and violent than a southern texan, however more poor and less educated so atleast they have a lil bit more of an excuse.
Some would kill you because you dont believe in Islam, true some born against christians would kill any muslim, if i remember correctly in one of those vids an old texan said "they should make a big crater out of the middle east".
They only undesrtand violence and nothing else.... that is a scary line you have thrown there, you are pretty much said they are animals or even worse, they are unable to understand or reason, this is a terrible scary lie that will only spread pain and suffering in the world, nobody, no race, no religion and no human in this world only understand through violence understand that.
PS: oh and it is racism, the true motive in the government and corporations is indeed a monopoly and expansion of wealth and power, however the tool to accomplish those goals is racism, nationalism and overall hatred.
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 08 2010 19:29. Posts 34312
On February 08 2010 18:15 woodbrave1 wrote:
I have a question. I said I have a question for you.
"The enemy are CEOs who lay us off when it's profitable."
?????
He is talking about unethical bussiness behavior for example, outsourcing jobs, or only hiring temps and re-hire them so they dont gain any benefits etc, is this somehow new to you?
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Zorglub   Denmark. Feb 08 2010 19:59. Posts 2870
On February 08 2010 18:07 Zorglub wrote:
Its not like racism is a western monopoly, the middle east is more racist than southern texas. Some of those racists want to kill me just because I dont believe what they do, those guys only understand violence and nothing else, so war is sometimes necessary. That beeing said, I am afraid he is right on the money with most of the rest he said.
You mixed so many truths with so many lies.
Yes, they are equally as racist and violent than a southern texan, however more poor and less educated so atleast they have a lil bit more of an excuse.
Some would kill you because you dont believe in Islam, true some born against christians would kill any muslim, if i remember correctly in one of those vids an old texan said "they should make a big crater out of the middle east".
They only undesrtand violence and nothing else.... that is a scary line you have thrown there, you are pretty much said they are animals or even worse, they are unable to understand or reason, this is a terrible scary lie that will only spread pain and suffering in the world, nobody, no race, no religion and no human in this world only understand through violence understand that.
PS: oh and it is racism, the true motive in the government and corporations is indeed a monopoly and expansion of wealth and power, however the tool to accomplish those goals is racism, nationalism and overall hatred.
I dont remember defending wacko christians, if they kill for their religion they are no better than the islamists. Yes it is a scary thought that some people are incapable of ever understanding reason/logic/common sense/compassion/empathy etc. but that quite clearly is the case for some people. If you have been brainwashed from birth there is a chance that you will never be normal again even if the brainwashing stops.
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 08 2010 20:42. Posts 34312
So because there are some whacko born again christians who want all the middle east gone, you think it would be ok for the middle eastern countries to invade and occupy america?
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Zorglub   Denmark. Feb 08 2010 20:48. Posts 2870
On February 08 2010 19:42 Baal wrote:
So because there are some whacko born again christians who want all the middle east gone, you think it would be ok for the middle eastern countries to invade and occupy america?
Nope but if they attacked and killed civilians because their god told them to do it, it would be ok to use the necessary means to stop them
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 08 2010 20:57. Posts 34312
On February 08 2010 19:42 Baal wrote:
So because there are some whacko born again christians who want all the middle east gone, you think it would be ok for the middle eastern countries to invade and occupy america?
Nope but if they attacked and killed civilians because their god told them to do it, it would be ok to use the necessary means to stop them
Except that Iraq havent attacked US civilians in any way ever... i thought that was common knowledge by now.
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Zorglub   Denmark. Feb 08 2010 21:10. Posts 2870
I never mentioned a word about the invasion of Iraq in this thread, I said war is a necessary evil some times
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Etherone   Canada. Feb 08 2010 21:13. Posts 753
On February 08 2010 20:10 Zorglub wrote:
I never mentioned a word about the invasion of Iraq in this thread, I said war is a necessary evil some times
war is a necessary evil in self defense and only in self defense, and at which point the war already existed so instigating a was is never a necessary evil, fighting one may be.
edit: what exactly do you want to discuss in this thread baal; that the US was wrong to invade iraq or are you trying to dissuade people from joining the US army?
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woodbrave1   United States. Feb 08 2010 21:23. Posts 666
On February 08 2010 20:10 Zorglub wrote:
I never mentioned a word about the invasion of Iraq in this thread, I said war is a necessary evil some times
war isn't evil if it's in defense.
That's like saying justice is evil.
Baal do you think the chance a person successfully commits a crime should be taken into consideration when equating justice?
Like say a person stole a painting and most the time they get away like 80%, should the punishment be 4x greater to account for the amount of times the crime would be commuted successfully?
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Zorglub   Denmark. Feb 08 2010 21:31. Posts 2870
On February 08 2010 20:10 Zorglub wrote:
I never mentioned a word about the invasion of Iraq in this thread, I said war is a necessary evil some times
war isn't evil if it's in defense.
That's like saying justice is evil.
Baal do you think the chance a person successfully commits a crime should be taken into consideration when equating justice?
Like say a person stole a painting and most the time they get away like 80%, should the punishment be 4x greater to account for the amount of times the crime would be commuted successfully?
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whamm!   Albania. Feb 08 2010 22:52. Posts 11625
war is sad, especially if its for the wrong reasons, which is basically what the US is with iraq ( afghanistan im not too against it)
but listening to soldier whine about how sad war is is just pathetic
ive seen/heard people get it worse for dumber reasons in diff places and circumstance, what a faggot. dont join the army
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NMcNasty   United States. Feb 08 2010 23:01. Posts 2041
have to agree with what he said but there was nothing new
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blackjacki2   United States. Feb 09 2010 00:14. Posts 2582
I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war was and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history
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woodbrave1   United States. Feb 09 2010 00:24. Posts 666
Is totheeastside alive? Haven't seen a post by him in a while.
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 09 2010 02:04. Posts 34312
On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote:
I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history
IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan.
Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there.
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 09 2010 02:08. Posts 34312
On February 08 2010 21:52 whamm! wrote:
war is sad, especially if its for the wrong reasons, which is basically what the US is with iraq ( afghanistan im not too against it)
but listening to soldier whine about how sad war is is just pathetic
ive seen/heard people get it worse for dumber reasons in diff places and circumstance, what a faggot. dont join the army
People are naive enough to join the army thinking they are actually defending their freedom or country, they dont sign in to terrorize innocent civilians
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Bigbobm   United States. Feb 09 2010 05:17. Posts 5513
I'd bet a good majority join because they have no other option career or education wise.
It's still pretty sad that so much manpower is put into war. I can't even fathom where we would be today if all that time and effort was redirected into education and developing technology.
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anarki   Belgium. Feb 09 2010 06:29. Posts 288
On February 08 2010 22:01 NMcNasty wrote:
have to agree with what he said but there was nothing new
this, I thought this was pretty much general knowledge
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nolan   Ireland. Feb 09 2010 10:55. Posts 6205
all these wars are only happening beacuse without the military industrial complex US politicians think the world economy would collapse.
imo.
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lukeperry   Sweden. Feb 09 2010 11:22. Posts 145
On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote:
I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history
IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan.
Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there.
The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that.
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egood   United States. Feb 09 2010 11:55. Posts 1883
On February 09 2010 04:17 Bigbobm wrote:
I'd bet a good majority join because they have no other option career or education wise.
This.
My friend is a marine and said that he would pretty much go around to small towns and clear people out of their homes, interrogate them, and search their houses. Pretty ridiculous shit.
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woodbrave1   United States. Feb 09 2010 14:17. Posts 666
On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote:
I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history
IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan.
Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there.
The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been
defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they
will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was
withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about
finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see
that.
america has no allies only commerce with other nations.
Lol at them saying their plans. They are all talk, that's why they are talking.....
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woodbrave1   United States. Feb 09 2010 14:21. Posts 666
If prostitution were legal, suicide bombing would be dramatically reduced.
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whamm!   Albania. Feb 09 2010 14:33. Posts 11625
all im saying is that if u want a stable career but dont wanna risk having to kill/torture or hurt somebody, dont join the army or marines
what do they expect they be doing? like push pencils allday? you're gonna have to follow some really sick orders without question at some point, the problem here is they're enticed to join the army since they can have a stable job, pension education etc, like its some sort of "job", its a lifestyle and people should be aware of that. and having no options because they are "poor" or ignorant is not an excuse, here in the philippines there are 85% extremely poor people , but you dont see them joining the army since they know for a fact what the job entails. i just hate snitches regardless
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woodbrave1   United States. Feb 09 2010 16:12. Posts 666
People are like bears at the edge of a cliff, controlled by fear. Am I the only one who thinks the guy who killed his commanding officers at fort worth Texas a hero and a moral man? He one man against a 1000 headed dragon and he lost but he knew he was going to lose. So he did what he did on principle, LOL. Everyone else just takes orders out of fear. If everyone was as brave and as moral there would be no armies because armies are created and kept in order by fear.
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ShaperofDreams   Canada. Feb 09 2010 17:02. Posts 438
HOLY SHIT I checked and theres no wikipedia of him even though he has many many many fans.
coincidence? Also the Gov already called him a liar and said he's an evil communist.
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 10 2010 11:05. Posts 34312
On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote:
I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history
IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan.
Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there.
The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that.
This is totally ignorant and wrong.
First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit.
Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea
Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan?
Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue.
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lukeperry   Sweden. Feb 10 2010 14:40. Posts 145
On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote:
I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history
IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan.
Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there.
The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that.
This is totally ignorant and wrong.
First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit.
Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea
Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan?
Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue.
I never said I supported the war in Afghanistan, I said its not as easy to withdraw from there as you seem to think. If everyone left now the taliban would start attacking targets in Europe and America as a payback. ISAF must continue now, we're in too deep to just gtfo.
I thought it was common knowledge that the US has always supported different governments and countries to forward their own agenda? I'm not defending Americas actions, trust me. But withdrawing now is flat out retarded. I'm just glad you and your kind arent in charge anywhere important.
Like I said, the war in Afghanistan is not only about capturing bin Laden anymore. It's about taking down a terrorist network who will fuck people up if they're left alone tomorrow.
Dodging the Iraq issue? Your post was about the war in Afghanistan and I replied with my thoughts on it. I'm not dodging anything. Are you really this dumb or do you just like to annoy people?
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woodbrave1   United States. Feb 10 2010 15:04. Posts 666
On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote:
I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history
IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan.
Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there.
The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that.
This is totally ignorant and wrong.
First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit.
Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea
Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan?
Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue.
I never said I supported the war in Afghanistan, I said its not as easy to withdraw from there as you seem to think. If everyone left now the taliban would start attacking targets in Europe and America as a payback. ISAF must continue now, we're in too deep to just gtfo.
I thought it was common knowledge that the US has always supported different governments and countries to forward their own agenda? I'm not defending Americas actions, trust me. But withdrawing now is flat out retarded. I'm just glad you and your kind arent in charge anywhere important.
Like I said, the war in Afghanistan is not only about capturing bin Laden anymore. It's about taking down a terrorist network who will fuck people up if they're left alone tomorrow.
Dodging the Iraq issue? Your post was about the war in Afghanistan and I replied with my thoughts on it. I'm not dodging anything. Are you really this dumb or do you just like to annoy people?
this probably a dumb question but given my image i think its ok to ask?
how do these terrorists networks over in afghanistan even know we exist?
like why attack us why not russia or haiti or mexico or cananda or brazil?
wtf...
if people are willing to die trying to kill us, people in USA
what the fuck did we do?
what would someone have to do to you for you to be willing to die to kill that someone?
u think they are not people because they are born in the middle east?
they are just like you, just on different territory.
when we kill their families its collateral damage/war
when they kill our families its terrorism
fack you
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lukeperry   Sweden. Feb 10 2010 15:47. Posts 145
On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote:
I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history
IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan.
Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there.
The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that.
This is totally ignorant and wrong.
First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit.
Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea
Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan?
Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue.
I never said I supported the war in Afghanistan, I said its not as easy to withdraw from there as you seem to think. If everyone left now the taliban would start attacking targets in Europe and America as a payback. ISAF must continue now, we're in too deep to just gtfo.
I thought it was common knowledge that the US has always supported different governments and countries to forward their own agenda? I'm not defending Americas actions, trust me. But withdrawing now is flat out retarded. I'm just glad you and your kind arent in charge anywhere important.
Like I said, the war in Afghanistan is not only about capturing bin Laden anymore. It's about taking down a terrorist network who will fuck people up if they're left alone tomorrow.
Dodging the Iraq issue? Your post was about the war in Afghanistan and I replied with my thoughts on it. I'm not dodging anything. Are you really this dumb or do you just like to annoy people?
this probably a dumb question but given my image i think its ok to ask?
how do these terrorists networks over in afghanistan even know we exist?
like why attack us why not russia or haiti or mexico or cananda or brazil?
wtf...
if people are willing to die trying to kill us, people in USA
what the fuck did we do?
what would someone have to do to you for you to be willing to die to kill that someone?
u think they are not people because they are born in the middle east?
they are just like you, just on different territory.
when we kill their families its collateral damage/war
when they kill our families its terrorism
fack you
lol trying to put words in my mouth are we? try again
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just realized I'm trying to argue with two of the most narrow minded people on LP, think I'll go touch myself instead of wasting time here.
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nolan   Ireland. Feb 10 2010 15:59. Posts 6205
On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote:
I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history
IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan.
Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there.
The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that.
This is totally ignorant and wrong.
First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit.
Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea
Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan?
Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue.
I never said I supported the war in Afghanistan, I said its not as easy to withdraw from there as you seem to think. If everyone left now the taliban would start attacking targets in Europe and America as a payback. ISAF must continue now, we're in too deep to just gtfo.
I thought it was common knowledge that the US has always supported different governments and countries to forward their own agenda? I'm not defending Americas actions, trust me. But withdrawing now is flat out retarded. I'm just glad you and your kind arent in charge anywhere important.
Like I said, the war in Afghanistan is not only about capturing bin Laden anymore. It's about taking down a terrorist network who will fuck people up if they're left alone tomorrow.
Dodging the Iraq issue? Your post was about the war in Afghanistan and I replied with my thoughts on it. I'm not dodging anything. Are you really this dumb or do you just like to annoy people?
Except that Al-Qaeda has wrong immensely after the american invasion to Afghanistan.
You are retarded because it seems you dont understand how and why these terrorist cells exists, and that is because of hatred and revenge, you invade a country and occupy it, people harmed by this and with a strong nationalistic or religious sense join forces to take revenge.
Do you seriously believe you can get into a country and occupy it for 10 years, and kill all the terrorists there? are you 10 years old or something? occupying a country for 10 years only creates millions of people who hate you, so basically every second you spend in iran and afghanistan, you are creating a new terrorist and fueling their cause, leave now, apologize for your crimes, adopt a proper foreign policy of no intervention and the hatred will eventually fade away.
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Stroggos   New Zealand. Feb 10 2010 19:39. Posts 1117
On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote:
I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history
IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan.
Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there.
The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that.
This is totally ignorant and wrong.
First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit.
Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea
Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan?
Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue.
I never said I supported the war in Afghanistan, I said its not as easy to withdraw from there as you seem to think. If everyone left now the taliban would start attacking targets in Europe and America as a payback. ISAF must continue now, we're in too deep to just gtfo.
I thought it was common knowledge that the US has always supported different governments and countries to forward their own agenda? I'm not defending Americas actions, trust me. But withdrawing now is flat out retarded. I'm just glad you and your kind arent in charge anywhere important.
Like I said, the war in Afghanistan is not only about capturing bin Laden anymore. It's about taking down a terrorist network who will fuck people up if they're left alone tomorrow.
Dodging the Iraq issue? Your post was about the war in Afghanistan and I replied with my thoughts on it. I'm not dodging anything. Are you really this dumb or do you just like to annoy people?
this probably a dumb question but given my image i think its ok to ask?
how do these terrorists networks over in afghanistan even know we exist?
like why attack us why not russia or haiti or mexico or cananda or brazil?
wtf...
if people are willing to die trying to kill us, people in USA
what the fuck did we do?
what would someone have to do to you for you to be willing to die to kill that someone?
u think they are not people because they are born in the middle east?
they are just like you, just on different territory.
when we kill their families its collateral damage/war
when they kill our families its terrorism
fack you
simple explanation on why towelheads hate your country: your country backed the jews, jews restole land off the towel heads, towel head leaders tell their people to hate americans.
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Stroggos   New Zealand. Feb 10 2010 20:24. Posts 1117
why are Americans complaining about this? isn't this what your country wanted? To kill people so you can drive your suv 100m down the street to the market? Over 50% of people voted for bush, twice! I think this shows that a proper education is needed for americans, like this veteran, who seemed to be unaware of what war was before he joined it. Why did he go to war? you'd think that after WW2 people would know what war was. Well, at least germany knows what it is and stay the fuck out of it.
Also the last 20 seconds of that speech reminded me of hitler, heh.
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Stroggos   New Zealand. Feb 10 2010 20:33. Posts 1117
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Currency   New Zealand. Feb 10 2010 20:46. Posts 618
what about the train bombings in Spain?
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woodbrave1   United States. Feb 10 2010 22:35. Posts 666
Morality isn't decided by a majority vote, its decided by your conscious.
St. Augustine said, "an unjust law is no law at all."
I'm obligated to resist unjust laws through violence or civil disobedience. You should pray I choose the latter.
Do not give in to evil, but proceed ever more boldly against it.
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 10 2010 23:37. Posts 34312
On February 10 2010 19:46 Currency wrote:
what about the train bombings in Spain?
Spain's least of terrorist worries are the muslims, they have a way bigger issue with the ETA
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LikeASet   United States. Feb 11 2010 02:20. Posts 2113
On February 10 2010 19:24 Stroggos wrote:
why are Americans complaining about this? isn't this what your country wanted? To kill people so you can drive your suv 100m down the street to the market? Over 50% of people voted for bush, twice! I think this shows that a proper education is needed for americans, like this veteran, who seemed to be unaware of what war was before he joined it. Why did he go to war? you'd think that after WW2 people would know what war was. Well, at least germany knows what it is and stay the fuck out of it.
Also the last 20 seconds of that speech reminded me of hitler, heh.
Some really unecessary statements. Most of the people on this site weren't even old enough to vote back during the elections involving Bush. Why you gotta point fingers at people, yeah the war is some stupid shit but wtf. Yes a lot of Americans drive suvs, but people all around the world wear clothing made in swet shops where people are enslaved, people all around the world buy diamonds that may have come from Sierre Leone in Africa, etc etc. Ignorance and greed is spread all over the globe, you're just saying a bunch of statements that are unecessarily grouping people together and causing more hatred.
Anyways its not like we were attacked by terrorists, then elected Bush so we can wage war, then went to war. People elected Bush, we were attacked by terrorists, then we were like wtf what happened? Bush said we're going to war, our congress said "uh no we're not" then Bush said "Fuck you we're going to war."
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blackjacki2   United States. Feb 11 2010 05:12. Posts 2582
On February 10 2010 19:24 Stroggos wrote:
why are Americans complaining about this? isn't this what your country wanted? To kill people so you can drive your suv 100m down the street to the market? Over 50% of people voted for bush, twice! I think this shows that a proper education is needed for americans, like this veteran, who seemed to be unaware of what war was before he joined it. Why did he go to war? you'd think that after WW2 people would know what war was. Well, at least germany knows what it is and stay the fuck out of it.
Also the last 20 seconds of that speech reminded me of hitler, heh.
less than 25% of the people voted for bush actually. still enough to win an election, sadly
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whamm!   Albania. Feb 11 2010 05:37. Posts 11625
On February 10 2010 19:24 Stroggos wrote:
why are Americans complaining about this? isn't this what your country wanted? To kill people so you can drive your suv 100m down the street to the market? Over 50% of people voted for bush, twice! I think this shows that a proper education is needed for americans, like this veteran, who seemed to be unaware of what war was before he joined it. Why did he go to war? you'd think that after WW2 people would know what war was. Well, at least germany knows what it is and stay the fuck out of it.
Also the last 20 seconds of that speech reminded me of hitler, heh.
less than 25% of the people voted for bush actually. still enough to win an election, sadly
yeah wtf is up with that electoral college bullshit? does it even serve a higher, fairer purpose?
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blackjacki2   United States. Feb 11 2010 05:40. Posts 2582
On February 10 2010 19:24 Stroggos wrote:
why are Americans complaining about this? isn't this what your country wanted? To kill people so you can drive your suv 100m down the street to the market? Over 50% of people voted for bush, twice! I think this shows that a proper education is needed for americans, like this veteran, who seemed to be unaware of what war was before he joined it. Why did he go to war? you'd think that after WW2 people would know what war was. Well, at least germany knows what it is and stay the fuck out of it.
Also the last 20 seconds of that speech reminded me of hitler, heh.
less than 25% of the people voted for bush actually. still enough to win an election, sadly
yeah wtf is up with that electoral college bullshit? does it even serve a higher, fairer purpose?
it's not electoral college bullshit. It's called 50% voter turnout bullshit
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blackjacki2   United States. Feb 11 2010 05:49. Posts 2582
I'm tired of this "they hate us for our freedom" crap. You'd have to be incredibly ignorant of foreign affairs to buy into that nonsense. Islam has been under an assault by the western world for quite some time and terrorist attacks are a reaction of that. One country in particular stands above others as the most egregious offendor, whose actions are so despicable they have all but destroyed any hope for peace for the next 100 years.
That's right, I'm looking at you Denmark. Now I'm no history buff so I'm not totally sure what you assholes did, but knock it the fuck off or expect more embassy bombings.
Actually I won't lie. It was nice to see people burning a flag that wasn't American for a change.
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egood   United States. Feb 16 2010 01:35. Posts 1883
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Zorglub   Denmark. Feb 16 2010 01:46. Posts 2870
On February 11 2010 04:49 blackjacki2 wrote:
I'm tired of this "they hate us for our freedom" crap. You'd have to be incredibly ignorant of foreign affairs to buy into that nonsense. Islam has been under an assault by the western world for quite some time and terrorist attacks are a reaction of that. One country in particular stands above others as the most egregious offendor, whose actions are so despicable they have all but destroyed any hope for peace for the next 100 years.
That's right, I'm looking at you Denmark. Now I'm no history buff so I'm not totally sure what you assholes did, but knock it the fuck off or expect more embassy bombings.
Actually I won't lie. It was nice to see people burning a flag that wasn't American for a change.
Lol are you serious? Learn some history dude, Islam has been at war with the west for like 500 years now. Bomb an embassy and kill people over a cartoon, is that justifiable by your logic? The west is going down the drain fast
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