Fayth   Canada. Jan 29 2010 18:02. Posts 10085
Pretty neat haha, nice job toyota!
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JohnnyBologna   United States. Jan 29 2010 18:10. Posts 1401
kinda sad if you ask me.
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milkman   United States. Jan 29 2010 18:14. Posts 5719
this is pretty sick in a bad way, im pretty sure its fake tho. You could turn the car off, or put it in neutral, or hold the break down really hard and prolly stop the car, or just figure out taht the pedal is stuck and flip it back up.
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Fayth   Canada. Jan 29 2010 18:16. Posts 10085
some people are pretty stupid, it's not fake at all though, toyota really had problems with their 2009/2010 cars, camry, corolla, some lexus models also... all this same problem, but yeah most people wold have thought to put it on neutral, but this guy was prob really panicked and kind of clueless
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nolan   Ireland. Jan 29 2010 18:23. Posts 6205
i wonder if my lexus has this problem.
i used a ton of cruise control driving cross country. it went pretty smooth. i'm really surprsied they didnt think to put it in neutral? i think he said he was in a lexus. he probably couldnt shut it off because its a push start and i doubt it will shut the engine when you're going at a high speed. but still, neutral woulda probably been no problem.
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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Jan 29 2010 18:24. Posts 14026
WTF IS THIS MAN?
4 PEOPLE DIE AND U THINK ITS "PRETTY NEAT"
go fuck urself.
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jan 29 2010 18:31. Posts 7499
On January 29 2010 17:24 byrnesam wrote:
WTF IS THIS MAN?
4 PEOPLE DIE AND U THINK ITS "PRETTY NEAT"
go fuck urself.
this
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jan 29 2010 18:34. Posts 7499
that is absolutely horrible and so sad its sick to listen to.
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vltava   United States. Jan 29 2010 18:39. Posts 1742
I didn't finish listening, as I have no fascination with listening to someone die, but this event is well-known, not a hoax, and helped contribute to a massive recall by Toyota. If you have a Toyota (as I do), it should not be too hard to search on the Internet and find if your model is part of the recall. I don't think any Lexus is on the list.
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NewbSaibot   United States. Jan 29 2010 18:45. Posts 4952
Wtf Fayth?
This happened to my Acura once. I put it in neutral but then it started red-lining naturally, so then I just turned it off and went into the emergency lane. Pedal got stuck to the floor somehow. But yeah the human race is pretty stupid and people will drive 120mph for 20 straight minutes on the freeway with a stuck pedal and never once think about turning the car off or hitting emergency brake, or just grinding their car into a side wall or something etc etc.
bye now
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Ket   United Kingdom. Jan 29 2010 18:48. Posts 8665
On January 29 2010 17:34 Stim_Abuser wrote:
that is absolutely horrible and so sad its sick to listen to.
this, my heart sank at the end. just hope this was fake or something.
wtf fayth?
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jan 29 2010 18:53. Posts 7499
On January 29 2010 17:34 Stim_Abuser wrote:
that is absolutely horrible and so sad its sick to listen to.
this, my heart sank at the end. just hope this was fake or something.
wtf fayth?
it isnt. i remember hearing about it in the news. a family died. two children.
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SfydjkLm   Belarus. Jan 29 2010 19:03. Posts 3810
On January 29 2010 17:45 NewbSaibot wrote:
Wtf Fayth?
This happened to my Acura once. I put it in neutral but then it started red-lining naturally, so then I just turned it off and went into the emergency lane. Pedal got stuck to the floor somehow. But yeah the human race is pretty stupid and people will drive 120mph for 20 straight minutes on the freeway with a stuck pedal and never once think about turning the car off or hitting emergency brake, or just grinding their car into a side wall or something etc etc.
yea people are pretty stupid. Some would even suggest hitting emergency brake or grinding car on a side wall @120 mph.
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egood   United States. Jan 29 2010 19:06. Posts 1883
turn the car off, parking brake? like wtf? i feel bad cause apparently they did die, but seriously engine off = no more acceleration.
edit:
the cars with push to start won't turn off?
or putting it in neutral would work too.
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gawdawaful   Canada. Jan 29 2010 19:16. Posts 9015
they actually ceased production of camrys, rav4, corolla and matrix in Canada too I believe...
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Highcard   Canada. Jan 29 2010 19:23. Posts 5428
That car apparently from comments was KEYLESS ignition, how you turn off a keyless car I have no idea because I have never owned one. It apparently was a loaner car as well, so he may have literally just got that car. How many people get into someone else's car and drive and instantly feel that weird sensation of how you are not as comfortable as your own while you try to figure out what does what. Anyways, i dont' know what car it was or if they were fat people or if someone was disabled or anything, all I know is fucking Toyota.
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nolan   Ireland. Jan 29 2010 19:31. Posts 6205
yeah, im pretty sure my keyless toyota made car is impossible to shut off while running. that being said, you can still put it in neutral and possibly shut it down from there.
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NewbSaibot   United States. Jan 29 2010 19:49. Posts 4952
On January 29 2010 17:45 NewbSaibot wrote:
Wtf Fayth?
This happened to my Acura once. I put it in neutral but then it started red-lining naturally, so then I just turned it off and went into the emergency lane. Pedal got stuck to the floor somehow. But yeah the human race is pretty stupid and people will drive 120mph for 20 straight minutes on the freeway with a stuck pedal and never once think about turning the car off or hitting emergency brake, or just grinding their car into a side wall or something etc etc.
yea people are pretty stupid. Some would even suggest hitting emergency brake or grinding car on a side wall @120 mph.
So I guess you're the guy who drives into the intersection at 120mph.
bye now
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SfydjkLm   Belarus. Jan 29 2010 19:58. Posts 3810
On January 29 2010 17:45 NewbSaibot wrote:
Wtf Fayth?
This happened to my Acura once. I put it in neutral but then it started red-lining naturally, so then I just turned it off and went into the emergency lane. Pedal got stuck to the floor somehow. But yeah the human race is pretty stupid and people will drive 120mph for 20 straight minutes on the freeway with a stuck pedal and never once think about turning the car off or hitting emergency brake, or just grinding their car into a side wall or something etc etc.
yea people are pretty stupid. Some would even suggest hitting emergency brake or grinding car on a side wall @120 mph.
So I guess you're the guy who drives into the intersection at 120mph.
since you dont seem to catch my jolly drift ill elaborate on what im saying.
pulling a handbrake or crushing into a road barrier at 120 mph will get you deaded long before the intersection.
So all you smart ass folk who criticize a man no longer with us for stupidity while not understanding the concept of basic physics, well yall should be embarrassed.
kind of eerie listening to the video as now I know what its like to be going 80 mph out of control for several seconds knowing you're about to hit something
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milkman   United States. Jan 29 2010 20:38. Posts 5719
at 120 a ebrake still does something, not 2 much tho, but your normal breaks + ABS will do alot and if u add in the ebrake and a divider or wall, or the car infront of u, your gonna stop. plus if your driving 75 and teh car starts getting outa control , stopping should be first instinct.. anyway thats aside the issue.. i think this is the problem with the toyota car pedal getting stuck down, thats why they are doing a massive recall on almost all toyota models.. but nolan fyi its not the same on any lexus or scion models so no recall
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JohnnyBologna   United States. Jan 29 2010 20:46. Posts 1401
they are doing recall on my buddies lexus es 350 year 97 because of this problem. i also believe that the newer designed toyotas dont let you go into neutral when accelerating to avoid high rpms and messing up the engine.
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Fayth   Canada. Jan 29 2010 21:11. Posts 10085
wtf that was sarcasm u morons LOL
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nolan   Ireland. Jan 29 2010 21:21. Posts 6205
On January 29 2010 19:38 milkman wrote:
at 120 a ebrake still does something, not 2 much tho, but your normal breaks + ABS will do alot and if u add in the ebrake and a divider or wall, or the car infront of u, your gonna stop. plus if your driving 75 and teh car starts getting outa control , stopping should be first instinct.. anyway thats aside the issue.. i think this is the problem with the toyota car pedal getting stuck down, thats why they are doing a massive recall on almost all toyota models.. but nolan fyi its not the same on any lexus or scion models so no recall
if you pull an ebrake going 120 wont you lose control of the car pretty quickly?
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Baalim   Mexico. Jan 29 2010 22:00. Posts 34312
I guess they didnt pray hard enough LAWL
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Baalim   Mexico. Jan 29 2010 22:07. Posts 34312
Also people do you realize that pulling the hand brake at 120mph is going to be mmm.. interesting to say the least.
If the car wont let me change gears (its very likely it didnt as a transmission protection system), thy throwing the keys out of the car, maybe it will shut down when the car detects the keys out of range.
If it still fails you open the fuse box and start pulling them out.
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nolan   Ireland. Jan 29 2010 22:29. Posts 6205
On January 29 2010 21:07 Baal wrote:
If the car wont let me change gears (its very likely it didnt as a transmission protection system), thy throwing the keys out of the car, maybe it will shut down when the car detects the keys out of range.
this is actually a good idea. i'm pretty sure this does work.
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milkman   United States. Jan 30 2010 00:08. Posts 5719
On January 29 2010 19:38 milkman wrote:
at 120 a ebrake still does something, not 2 much tho, but your normal breaks + ABS will do alot and if u add in the ebrake and a divider or wall, or the car infront of u, your gonna stop. plus if your driving 75 and teh car starts getting outa control , stopping should be first instinct.. anyway thats aside the issue.. i think this is the problem with the toyota car pedal getting stuck down, thats why they are doing a massive recall on almost all toyota models.. but nolan fyi its not the same on any lexus or scion models so no recall
if you pull an ebrake going 120 wont you lose control of the car pretty quickly?
no at 120 a normal ebrake wont do much at all, actually some cars have it set to not engage at all if at high speeds, but most cars it will help slow it down but not just lock the back wheels and start a skid or anything like that.
One other thing, in my moms toyota prius if you hit the parking break, it will just lock it, moving or not, ive done it on accident and i was very suprised it didnt break the car, so thats an option, its just the parking break button.
On January 29 2010 21:07 Baal wrote:
If the car wont let me change gears (its very likely it didnt as a transmission protection system), thy throwing the keys out of the car, maybe it will shut down when the car detects the keys out of range.
this is actually a good idea. i'm pretty sure this does work.
and about that, ive driven my moms prius all around without the keys anywhere around, i think ive gone 20 miles before and it didnt shut off.
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milkman   United States. Jan 30 2010 00:08. Posts 5719
its time to email the myth busters!
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HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Jan 30 2010 00:13. Posts 10896
just have to fucking turn the motor off?
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HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Jan 30 2010 00:14. Posts 10896
this is old news btw
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Baalim   Mexico. Jan 30 2010 00:58. Posts 34312
On January 29 2010 19:38 milkman wrote:
at 120 a ebrake still does something, not 2 much tho, but your normal breaks + ABS will do alot and if u add in the ebrake and a divider or wall, or the car infront of u, your gonna stop. plus if your driving 75 and teh car starts getting outa control , stopping should be first instinct.. anyway thats aside the issue.. i think this is the problem with the toyota car pedal getting stuck down, thats why they are doing a massive recall on almost all toyota models.. but nolan fyi its not the same on any lexus or scion models so no recall
if you pull an ebrake going 120 wont you lose control of the car pretty quickly?
no at 120 a normal ebrake wont do much at all, actually some cars have it set to not engage at all if at high speeds, but most cars it will help slow it down but not just lock the back wheels and start a skid or anything like that.
One other thing, in my moms toyota prius if you hit the parking break, it will just lock it, moving or not, ive done it on accident and i was very suprised it didnt break the car, so thats an option, its just the parking break button.
On January 29 2010 21:07 Baal wrote:
If the car wont let me change gears (its very likely it didnt as a transmission protection system), thy throwing the keys out of the car, maybe it will shut down when the car detects the keys out of range.
this is actually a good idea. i'm pretty sure this does work.
and about that, ive driven my moms prius all around without the keys anywhere around, i think ive gone 20 miles before and it didnt shut off.
There is no way you can slow down a car accelerating with the hand brake, the rear brakes do less than 20% of the breaking and not even the 4 fully working breaks can overpower an accelerting engine.
So basically, pull the hand brake not very hard, the car wont slow down at all, pull it very hard you will lock the wheels spinning out of control.
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Baalim   Mexico. Jan 30 2010 01:00. Posts 34312
On January 29 2010 23:13 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
just have to fucking turn the motor off?
just read the thread before posting plz?
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NewbSaibot   United States. Jan 30 2010 01:51. Posts 4952
I'd rather go spinning out of control, hit the curb, and start flipping end over end than just t-bone someone at a full 120mph and kill whoever else is in the car too. And I think this guy was on the freeway at first yes? Not sure how he encountered an intersection, unless the freeway just ends into surface streets. Regardless freeway barrier's are designed to deflect impacts and straighten a car out. You wont go crashing over it or begin flipping or anything like that. With your front wheels angled full force into it your car would probably come grinding down to 30 mph if not buckling underneath and disabling the car. Regardless ANYTHING is better than NOTHING. I mean who calls 911? Wtf is that supposed to do?
And I can hate on this guy all i want, because I've been in his exact situation and I IMMEDIATELY knew what to do. Even under worst case scenario, like a push button ignition which wont turn off and brakes that wont engage for some reason, I would just put my car into the median or some other shit. I refuse to believe this guy sustain 120mph on surface streets surrounded by palm trees and school children where he had absolutely no option other than to drive straight forward. I feel bad for him, but cmon "im going 120, im going 120.. (60 seconds elapse) I see an intersection... im going straight for it.... ahhhh!!"
bye now
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milkman   United States. Jan 30 2010 02:00. Posts 5719
On January 30 2010 00:51 NewbSaibot wrote:
I'd rather go spinning out of control, hit the curb, and start flipping end over end than just t-bone someone at a full 120mph and kill whoever else is in the car too. And I think this guy was on the freeway at first yes? Not sure how he encountered an intersection, unless the freeway just ends into surface streets. Regardless freeway barrier's are designed to deflect impacts and straighten a car out. You wont go crashing over it or begin flipping or anything like that. With your front wheels angled full force into it your car would probably come grinding down to 30 mph if not buckling underneath and disabling the car. Regardless ANYTHING is better than NOTHING. I mean who calls 911? Wtf is that supposed to do?
And I can hate on this guy all i want, because I've been in his exact situation and I IMMEDIATELY knew what to do. Even under worst case scenario, like a push button ignition which wont turn off and brakes that wont engage for some reason, I would just put my car into the median or some other shit. I refuse to believe this guy sustain 120mph on surface streets surrounded by palm trees and school children where he had absolutely no option other than to drive straight forward. I feel bad for him, but cmon "im going 120, im going 120.. (60 seconds elapse) I see an intersection... im going straight for it.... ahhhh!!"
that last part and his voice not freaking out is what makes me think its not real.. but i guess everyone says it is.
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milkman   United States. Jan 30 2010 02:05. Posts 5719
On January 29 2010 19:38 milkman wrote:
at 120 a ebrake still does something, not 2 much tho, but your normal breaks + ABS will do alot and if u add in the ebrake and a divider or wall, or the car infront of u, your gonna stop. plus if your driving 75 and teh car starts getting outa control , stopping should be first instinct.. anyway thats aside the issue.. i think this is the problem with the toyota car pedal getting stuck down, thats why they are doing a massive recall on almost all toyota models.. but nolan fyi its not the same on any lexus or scion models so no recall
if you pull an ebrake going 120 wont you lose control of the car pretty quickly?
no at 120 a normal ebrake wont do much at all, actually some cars have it set to not engage at all if at high speeds, but most cars it will help slow it down but not just lock the back wheels and start a skid or anything like that.
One other thing, in my moms toyota prius if you hit the parking break, it will just lock it, moving or not, ive done it on accident and i was very suprised it didnt break the car, so thats an option, its just the parking break button.
On January 29 2010 21:07 Baal wrote:
If the car wont let me change gears (its very likely it didnt as a transmission protection system), thy throwing the keys out of the car, maybe it will shut down when the car detects the keys out of range.
this is actually a good idea. i'm pretty sure this does work.
and about that, ive driven my moms prius all around without the keys anywhere around, i think ive gone 20 miles before and it didnt shut off.
There is no way you can slow down a car accelerating with the hand brake, the rear brakes do less than 20% of the breaking and not even the 4 fully working breaks can overpower an accelerting engine.
So basically, pull the hand brake not very hard, the car wont slow down at all, pull it very hard you will lock the wheels spinning out of control.
baal me and u r prolly the 2 of the biggest car nerds on here and weve both seen people lock wheels under braking, they dont just start spinning crazy the second u pull it.. and at high speeds on most car it is only going to add to helping you stop, it should not be able to lock the wheels, basically if i couldnt turn the car off or put it in neutral or unjam the pedal, i would get really close to a cement wall or divider of there is one, rip ebrake, slam normal brakes and if there was a wall, try and loose some speed by rubbing on it, but that may be the most dangerous part, ive seen people just tap walls on the freeway and just start flying off the wall after they hit it.. but in any case, if you do start spinning, your car should come to a stop after the airbags deploy there is a safety thing that shuts shit down, or if you spin you will just start burning out and at least ur not doing 120+ anymore... i duno its a pretty crazy situation to get in anyway.. i submitted the whole story to myth busters so hopefully they will do it on the show lol
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whamm!   Albania. Jan 30 2010 02:09. Posts 11625
the fone call might be fake but the accident was real
regardless, i think this is pretty sad even if its a small chance the call is real.
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Highcard   Canada. Jan 30 2010 02:11. Posts 5428
it is pretty hard to say what is better, flipping a bunch of times... spinning to a side impact are the biggest factors in death because it tears your thoracic aorta. You may look fine enough once it stops but will bleed to death internally. this problem seems worse than Fords problem with those firestorm tires that kept blowing up on suvs
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SfydjkLm   Belarus. Jan 30 2010 05:43. Posts 3810
On January 29 2010 21:07 Baal wrote:
Also people do you realize that pulling the hand brake at 120mph is going to be mmm.. interesting to say the least.
If the car wont let me change gears (its very likely it didnt as a transmission protection system), thy throwing the keys out of the car, maybe it will shut down when the car detects the keys out of range.
If it still fails you open the fuse box and start pulling them out.
i assume youre talking automatic, is it actually possible to switch to neutral at that speed on a manual? And what would happen to the car if u did?
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mrpav.com   Canada. Jan 30 2010 05:52. Posts 3069
I just saw fayth's quote: "Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy" lol
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HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Jan 30 2010 09:50. Posts 10896
I think this is what you call "natural selection", no?
Putting the car on neutral is a no-brainer if you're driving manual, e-brake as people said ... and wtf get off the road, that guy driving clearly wasn't too smart. Wtf type of decision making skills is that. "Oh yeah let's keep going straight at the intersection". The steering isnt blocked, the accelerator was.
Again, Natural Selection. Sucks for his family, he basically killed them.
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egood   United States. Jan 30 2010 11:26. Posts 1883
even if its a keyless ignition, how do you turn it off when you're parking it? there has to be a way to shut it off, unless it has to be in park.
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Matt98568   United States. Jan 30 2010 11:31. Posts 2391
Its kinda amazing how big of life cunts some of you are...
I could be getting leveled pretty damn hard but i doubt it
I think its been confirmed but the phone call is not fake.
It seems it may have not been his fault, I don't know alot about cars but this is a small part in the article.
"Witnesses said the vehicle was going more than 100 mph on state Route 125 shortly before it collided with an SUV, crashed through a fence and ended up on fire in the bed of the San Diego River."
Pretty stupid to be going this fast with your family in the car regardless.
Last edit: 30/01/2010 11:39
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TheTank   United States. Jan 30 2010 11:32. Posts 830
engine brake?
sigh...its like they are throwing money out of a helicopter and i dont have any hands...so i just break even.
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Bigbobm   United States. Jan 30 2010 12:28. Posts 5513
On January 30 2010 10:31 Matt98568 wrote:
Pretty stupid to be going this fast with your family in the car regardless.
what? you know his accelerator was stuck right?
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NewbSaibot   United States. Jan 30 2010 15:34. Posts 4952
On January 30 2010 10:26 egood wrote:
even if its a keyless ignition, how do you turn it off when you're parking it? there has to be a way to shut it off, unless it has to be in park.
I have a push button ignition car, and I've actually been curious about this. Think I'll give it a try in a parking lot or something going 2mph, dont want to end up in a ditch. I'm gonna assume my car wont turn off though, just b/c it seems too easy for someone to accidentally do that which would lead to bad results as you lose steering and braking hydraulics pretty quick, and I dont feel like ending up in a ditch if it doesnt turn back on when I hit it again.
bye now
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SfydjkLm   Belarus. Jan 30 2010 19:18. Posts 3810
On January 29 2010 19:38 milkman wrote:
at 120 a ebrake still does something, not 2 much tho, but your normal breaks + ABS will do alot and if u add in the ebrake and a divider or wall, or the car infront of u, your gonna stop. plus if your driving 75 and teh car starts getting outa control , stopping should be first instinct.. anyway thats aside the issue.. i think this is the problem with the toyota car pedal getting stuck down, thats why they are doing a massive recall on almost all toyota models.. but nolan fyi its not the same on any lexus or scion models so no recall
if you pull an ebrake going 120 wont you lose control of the car pretty quickly?
no at 120 a normal ebrake wont do much at all, actually some cars have it set to not engage at all if at high speeds, but most cars it will help slow it down but not just lock the back wheels and start a skid or anything like that.
One other thing, in my moms toyota prius if you hit the parking break, it will just lock it, moving or not, ive done it on accident and i was very suprised it didnt break the car, so thats an option, its just the parking break button.
On January 29 2010 21:07 Baal wrote:
If the car wont let me change gears (its very likely it didnt as a transmission protection system), thy throwing the keys out of the car, maybe it will shut down when the car detects the keys out of range.
this is actually a good idea. i'm pretty sure this does work.
and about that, ive driven my moms prius all around without the keys anywhere around, i think ive gone 20 miles before and it didnt shut off.
There is no way you can slow down a car accelerating with the hand brake, the rear brakes do less than 20% of the breaking and not even the 4 fully working breaks can overpower an accelerting engine.
So basically, pull the hand brake not very hard, the car wont slow down at all, pull it very hard you will lock the wheels spinning out of control.
baal me and u r prolly the 2 of the biggest car nerds on here and weve both seen people lock wheels under braking, they dont just start spinning crazy the second u pull it.. and at high speeds on most car it is only going to add to helping you stop, it should not be able to lock the wheels, basically if i couldnt turn the car off or put it in neutral or unjam the pedal, i would get really close to a cement wall or divider of there is one, rip ebrake, slam normal brakes and if there was a wall, try and loose some speed by rubbing on it, but that may be the most dangerous part, ive seen people just tap walls on the freeway and just start flying off the wall after they hit it.. but in any case, if you do start spinning, your car should come to a stop after the airbags deploy there is a safety thing that shuts shit down, or if you spin you will just start burning out and at least ur not doing 120+ anymore... i duno its a pretty crazy situation to get in anyway.. i submitted the whole story to myth busters so hopefully they will do it on the show lol
the hand brake wont slow down the car, the car is on cruise control and it will accelerate to maintain the speed, plus the brakes were probably blazing hot loosing most of its effectiveness, if you pull it too hard locking your wheels he will for sure crash.
And obviously running to the interception is the worst choice but these were old dumb people i mean, they called 9/11 and prayed... you cant get more stupid than that, the best option would be to pull the fuses in the fuse box
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Baalim   Mexico. Jan 30 2010 19:33. Posts 34312
On January 30 2010 10:10 dafcnz wrote:
I think this is what you call "natural selection", no?
Putting the car on neutral is a no-brainer if you're driving manual, e-brake as people said ... and wtf get off the road, that guy driving clearly wasn't too smart. Wtf type of decision making skills is that. "Oh yeah let's keep going straight at the intersection". The steering isnt blocked, the accelerator was.
Again, Natural Selection. Sucks for his family, he basically killed them.
Yes the keyless luxury Lexus was manual... rofl also read the thread before posting plz
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thewh00sel   United States. Jan 30 2010 19:58. Posts 2735
it doesnt have to be manual to put it in neutral while you're driving. just put the thing up to neutral and it will just rev the engine and blow it and you will slow down, or if you're already doing 120mph put the car in Reverse or Park that should kill a lot of momentum. I put some blame on the 911 operator for not instantly suggesting putting it in neutral after asking the did you try to turn it off retard question.
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milkman   United States. Jan 30 2010 20:15. Posts 5719
On January 30 2010 18:58 thewh00sel wrote:
it doesnt have to be manual to put it in neutral while you're driving. just put the thing up to neutral and it will just rev the engine and blow it and you will slow down, or if you're already doing 120mph put the car in Reverse or Park that should kill a lot of momentum. I put some blame on the 911 operator for not instantly suggesting putting it in neutral after asking the did you try to turn it off retard question.
alot of automatics dont do anything if your going like 50 and put it in park or reverse, the check engine light just comes on and stuff, i duno if the car would keep accelerating forward tho.. they did it on mythbusters and the car didnt slow at all, but im not sure if the engine kept pushing it.. BUT in any manual, changing the gears will cancel your cruise control, and id assume it would do the same on a automatic.. but the best idea is obv to put it in neutral, this would most likely kill the cruise control and guarantee no more forward motion on the car.. on a side note i will say that i accidentally put my parents car in park, it has an electronic parking button, and its a prius, toyota just like the car in question, and the car was moving at about 6-7mph when i hit the park button, and the car violently stopped.. but im not gonna try it at 50 lol.
baals right about the brakes thing, they would probably be gently using them way 2 much and heat them up to the point of being almost useless anyway.. but i still think if they could lock the wheels up they aren't guaranteed to crash and start spinning around.. if your on a straight road and the wheels lock you dont just start spinning like crazy, the car goes straight for the most part, its like small ski's.. but if u started cranking the steering wheel around like a nutcase im sure you could get some spins outa it.
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Baalim   Mexico. Jan 30 2010 20:52. Posts 34312
On January 30 2010 18:58 thewh00sel wrote:
it doesnt have to be manual to put it in neutral while you're driving. just put the thing up to neutral and it will just rev the engine and blow it and you will slow down, or if you're already doing 120mph put the car in Reverse or Park that should kill a lot of momentum. I put some blame on the 911 operator for not instantly suggesting putting it in neutral after asking the did you try to turn it off retard question.
Probably the tranny has protection so you cant shift to neutral or a lower gear so you dont blow up the engine/tranny.
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Baalim   Mexico. Jan 30 2010 20:57. Posts 34312
On January 30 2010 18:58 thewh00sel wrote:
it doesnt have to be manual to put it in neutral while you're driving. just put the thing up to neutral and it will just rev the engine and blow it and you will slow down, or if you're already doing 120mph put the car in Reverse or Park that should kill a lot of momentum. I put some blame on the 911 operator for not instantly suggesting putting it in neutral after asking the did you try to turn it off retard question.
alot of automatics dont do anything if your going like 50 and put it in park or reverse, the check engine light just comes on and stuff, i duno if the car would keep accelerating forward tho.. they did it on mythbusters and the car didnt slow at all, but im not sure if the engine kept pushing it.. BUT in any manual, changing the gears will cancel your cruise control, and id assume it would do the same on a automatic.. but the best idea is obv to put it in neutral, this would most likely kill the cruise control and guarantee no more forward motion on the car.. on a side note i will say that i accidentally put my parents car in park, it has an electronic parking button, and its a prius, toyota just like the car in question, and the car was moving at about 6-7mph when i hit the park button, and the car violently stopped.. but im not gonna try it at 50 lol.
baals right about the brakes thing, they would probably be gently using them way 2 much and heat them up to the point of being almost useless anyway.. but i still think if they could lock the wheels up they aren't guaranteed to crash and start spinning around.. if your on a straight road and the wheels lock you dont just start spinning like crazy, the car goes straight for the most part, its like small ski's.. but if u started cranking the steering wheel around like a nutcase im sure you could get some spins outa it.
actually no, the slightest steering movement with your rear wheels locked will make the car spin, under acceleration you might be able to keep it together however, the Cruise control will accelerate the car if it feel its slowing down, so even if you apply rear brake pressure, it wont do shit to stop it.
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NewbSaibot   United States. Jan 30 2010 22:42. Posts 4952
On January 30 2010 18:58 thewh00sel wrote:
it doesnt have to be manual to put it in neutral while you're driving. just put the thing up to neutral and it will just rev the engine and blow it and you will slow down, or if you're already doing 120mph put the car in Reverse or Park that should kill a lot of momentum. I put some blame on the 911 operator for not instantly suggesting putting it in neutral after asking the did you try to turn it off retard question.
alot of automatics dont do anything if your going like 50 and put it in park or reverse, the check engine light just comes on and stuff, i duno if the car would keep accelerating forward tho.. they did it on mythbusters and the car didnt slow at all, but im not sure if the engine kept pushing it.. BUT in any manual, changing the gears will cancel your cruise control, and id assume it would do the same on a automatic.. but the best idea is obv to put it in neutral, this would most likely kill the cruise control and guarantee no more forward motion on the car.. on a side note i will say that i accidentally put my parents car in park, it has an electronic parking button, and its a prius, toyota just like the car in question, and the car was moving at about 6-7mph when i hit the park button, and the car violently stopped.. but im not gonna try it at 50 lol.
baals right about the brakes thing, they would probably be gently using them way 2 much and heat them up to the point of being almost useless anyway.. but i still think if they could lock the wheels up they aren't guaranteed to crash and start spinning around.. if your on a straight road and the wheels lock you dont just start spinning like crazy, the car goes straight for the most part, its like small ski's.. but if u started cranking the steering wheel around like a nutcase im sure you could get some spins outa it.
actually no, the slightest steering movement with your rear wheels locked will make the car spin, under acceleration you might be able to keep it together however, the Cruise control will accelerate the car if it feel its slowing down, so even if you apply rear brake pressure, it wont do shit to stop it.
actually cruise control is designed to disengage the moment you apply any brake pressure. I havent read the particulars of the recall though, if it's cruise control malfunctioning or the accelerator.
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milkman   United States. Jan 30 2010 23:17. Posts 5719
On January 30 2010 18:58 thewh00sel wrote:
it doesnt have to be manual to put it in neutral while you're driving. just put the thing up to neutral and it will just rev the engine and blow it and you will slow down, or if you're already doing 120mph put the car in Reverse or Park that should kill a lot of momentum. I put some blame on the 911 operator for not instantly suggesting putting it in neutral after asking the did you try to turn it off retard question.
alot of automatics dont do anything if your going like 50 and put it in park or reverse, the check engine light just comes on and stuff, i duno if the car would keep accelerating forward tho.. they did it on mythbusters and the car didnt slow at all, but im not sure if the engine kept pushing it.. BUT in any manual, changing the gears will cancel your cruise control, and id assume it would do the same on a automatic.. but the best idea is obv to put it in neutral, this would most likely kill the cruise control and guarantee no more forward motion on the car.. on a side note i will say that i accidentally put my parents car in park, it has an electronic parking button, and its a prius, toyota just like the car in question, and the car was moving at about 6-7mph when i hit the park button, and the car violently stopped.. but im not gonna try it at 50 lol.
baals right about the brakes thing, they would probably be gently using them way 2 much and heat them up to the point of being almost useless anyway.. but i still think if they could lock the wheels up they aren't guaranteed to crash and start spinning around.. if your on a straight road and the wheels lock you dont just start spinning like crazy, the car goes straight for the most part, its like small ski's.. but if u started cranking the steering wheel around like a nutcase im sure you could get some spins outa it.
actually no, the slightest steering movement with your rear wheels locked will make the car spin, under acceleration you might be able to keep it together however, the Cruise control will accelerate the car if it feel its slowing down, so even if you apply rear brake pressure, it wont do shit to stop it.
almost 100% of toyota sedans r FWD.. if you did get the rear brakes or ebrake to lock the back wheels your going to spin, the front wheels r doing the pulling, pulling the car forward constantly, the car should not enter into a uncontrollable spin, its constantly moving the front forward and keeping the back in the back.. you would have to get the front to really slow down to spin the back around.
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RICHI8   United States. Jan 30 2010 23:24. Posts 1341
Pulling the ebrake in an FWD car will definitely make you spin. lol
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blackjacki2   United States. Jan 30 2010 23:53. Posts 2582
news story i heard said the brakes were on fire before the crash
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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Jan 31 2010 03:10. Posts 14026
This thread is so fucking dumb.
If some of you honestly believe you can quickly solve a problem like jammed accelerator, whilst flying down a public road at 120mph towards an intersection, then youre idiots.
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NewbSaibot   United States. Jan 31 2010 03:35. Posts 4952
On January 31 2010 02:10 byrnesam wrote:
This thread is so fucking dumb.
If some of you honestly believe you can quickly solve a problem like jammed accelerator, whilst flying down a public road at 120mph towards an intersection, then youre idiots.
Most of us would have solved it by the time we hit 80
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egood   United States. Feb 01 2010 12:50. Posts 1883
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Fayth   Canada. Feb 01 2010 16:09. Posts 10085
On January 30 2010 18:58 thewh00sel wrote:
it doesnt have to be manual to put it in neutral while you're driving. just put the thing up to neutral and it will just rev the engine and blow it and you will slow down, or if you're already doing 120mph put the car in Reverse or Park that should kill a lot of momentum. I put some blame on the 911 operator for not instantly suggesting putting it in neutral after asking the did you try to turn it off retard question.
alot of automatics dont do anything if your going like 50 and put it in park or reverse, the check engine light just comes on and stuff, i duno if the car would keep accelerating forward tho.. they did it on mythbusters and the car didnt slow at all, but im not sure if the engine kept pushing it.. BUT in any manual, changing the gears will cancel your cruise control, and id assume it would do the same on a automatic.. but the best idea is obv to put it in neutral, this would most likely kill the cruise control and guarantee no more forward motion on the car.. on a side note i will say that i accidentally put my parents car in park, it has an electronic parking button, and its a prius, toyota just like the car in question, and the car was moving at about 6-7mph when i hit the park button, and the car violently stopped.. but im not gonna try it at 50 lol.
baals right about the brakes thing, they would probably be gently using them way 2 much and heat them up to the point of being almost useless anyway.. but i still think if they could lock the wheels up they aren't guaranteed to crash and start spinning around.. if your on a straight road and the wheels lock you dont just start spinning like crazy, the car goes straight for the most part, its like small ski's.. but if u started cranking the steering wheel around like a nutcase im sure you could get some spins outa it.
actually no, the slightest steering movement with your rear wheels locked will make the car spin, under acceleration you might be able to keep it together however, the Cruise control will accelerate the car if it feel its slowing down, so even if you apply rear brake pressure, it wont do shit to stop it.
actually cruise control is designed to disengage the moment you apply any brake pressure. I havent read the particulars of the recall though, if it's cruise control malfunctioning or the accelerator.
accelerator, "free cruise control" was more like a joke
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Jubert69   United States. Feb 01 2010 17:43. Posts 3191
Brakes should be able to overpower the engine.
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milkman   United States. Feb 01 2010 19:30. Posts 5719
On January 30 2010 22:24 RICHI8 wrote:
Pulling the ebrake in an FWD car will definitely make you spin. lol
on all the cars ive ever driven the ebrake only affects the rear wheels, this = no spin if you can get um to lock, they should both lock at the same dime, dragging the rear of the car behind the front wheels pulling it forward, there should be no energy pushing the rear end around. Now if you add the normal breaks that are much bigger in the front than the rear, your looking at a spin because the rear is accelerating faster than the front.. but if you just ebrake, no spin.... anyways in this situation if you get your wheels to lock up at around 75-80 ( i doubt its possible at that speed, might not even be possible alot slower ) but if you do, and you spin, its prolly a life saver, your speed will carry you forward and when you spin you will lose TONS of speed and prolly roll or hit other cars, but either way its better then raming into an solid stopped object like a stopped car or building or something.
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 01 2010 20:57. Posts 34312
On January 30 2010 22:53 blackjacki2 wrote:
news story i heard said the brakes were on fire before the crash
yes obviously since he was probably pressin the brakes all the time, brakes get red hot and get on fire under hard braking, it happens very often in rally.
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Highcard   Canada. Feb 01 2010 21:39. Posts 5428